[The Dark Tower] Well its official, Idris Elba as Roland Deschain.

[Gallahadd]

My husband swears up and down that he saw a horn in Roland's bag in some shots. He hasn't read the novels but knows about the horn because I've been talking about this movie for months (okay bitching).

Still not enough. They were making out like it was going to be a huge thing, and they don't even mention it? Or do a suitabley "Chekov's Gun" level intro for it?

Fuck that.

[eschatological]

I have to wonder how and why this movie got cut down to 91 minutes. I wish people did more reporting on the actual making of shit like this.

[TITAN308]

My husband swears up and down that he saw a horn in Roland's bag in some shots. He hasn't read the novels but knows about the horn because I've been talking about this movie for months (okay bitching).

Yes you can see the end of it poking out of his bag.

That is it.

Literally.

Edit:



That is it, this is the extent that the horn is in the movie. It is not even mentioned in dialogue.

[IIamaKing]

Why not cause some turn out to be bad? this is a bs reason.

Stand by me, The Shining (Kubrick), Misery, Green Mile, Shawshank Redemption, IT, The Mist and Running man where good ones.

Yep those are the exceptions. I'd like to point out as well that half of those are good movies that are GOD AWFUL adaptations.

[f3llyn]

Quite a few problems with that though, isn't it? The Man in Black is rather dead in the books. <- spoiler if you haven't read the books.

And Roland wasn't black. And he didn't have his horn.

Remember how the books end? With Roland starting his journey over.

...The Man in Black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed.

[TITAN308]

This movie just basically ended up being the Warcraft movie on a smaller scale.

Big pants to fill, much hype, giant turd.

[taheen74]

Spoiler if you haven't read the books:

The last line of the last book is the first line of the first book: "The man in black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed." He literally cycles back to the "crux of his journey," where he became irredeemable, IE, right before he met Jake and let him fall under the mountain.

See and I think that creates a big problem for those of us that are really iffy on this film. For years now, we've been running under the same assumption that it's the same journey each time, however, with small differences/different decisions. I think a lot of us can agree that if they had actually started this movie the correct way: that being the MiB fleeing miles and miles across the desert and then panning into Roland (The man in black fled across the desert and the gunslinger followed), it would have more acceptable then the changes start showing (the differences now that he has the horn).

I know I was really disappointed that we didn't get the correct beginning. Not sure why they felt the need to tell it via Jake's perspective from the beginning.

I started accepting the changes when Roland didn't drop him off the cliff.

I generally did enjoy the movie, but I think it would have sat better with the correct beginning.

[Noxina]

And Roland wasn't black. And he didn't have his horn.

Remember how the books end? With Roland starting his journey over.

...The Man in Black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed.

Yeah, we've gone through that in the previous posts.

To be honest, it hardly matters that Roland is played by Idris Elba, he is an awesome actor. And as many critics and reviews have mentioned - Idris Elba is one of the few things that actually went right with the movie. So don't even take that route

[f3llyn]

Yeah, we've gone through that in the previous posts.

To be honest, it hardly matters that Roland is played by Idris Elba, he is an awesome actor. And as many critics and reviews have mentioned - Idris Elba is one of the few things that actually went right with the movie. So don't even take that route

I wasn't disputing that..?

[Noxina]

I wasn't disputing that..?

"And Roland wasn't black" was your very first sentence.

[eschatological]

He's implying that this movie was a fresh cycle, allowing Roland to be black, like you were discussing how the man in black can be "back" despite dying in the books. That's it.

[f3llyn]

"And Roland wasn't black" was your very first sentence.

Yeah, so go back and read our entire discussion and put it in context. I feel like this shouldn't even need to be explained considering you're the one who made the point to begin with.

He's implying that this movie was a fresh cycle, allowing Roland to be black, like you were discussing how the man in black can be "back" despite dying in the books. That's it.

Exactly.

[Cwimge]

Glad this aint doing so well. The dark tower deserves, demands an authentic retelling if you ever want to try and bring it to the big screen. It simply can't work unless the first film is a 3 hour saga of desert walking, strange conversations and flashbacks that ends on the most absolute cliffhanger.

Idris is savagely miscast. Might be the mans a good actor, I can only recall him from his bland dozen lines spread out over two thor films. But he simply does not belong here. Call it a diversity problem but change for its own (sjw appeasement) sake is just dumb. The combining of several Plot points and starting somewhere near book 4 or 5? At best this has just looked like streamlining gone wrong.

At worst it's another case of "we have the bones of a new IP but nobody will greenlight it so we'll make it dark towerish and sell on that"

[Deleted]

Idris Elbas talent is squandered again.

[Immitis]

Glad this aint doing so well. The dark tower deserves, demands an authentic retelling if you ever want to try and bring it to the big screen. It simply can't work unless the first film is a 3 hour saga of desert walking, strange conversations and flashbacks that ends on the most absolute cliffhanger.

Idris is savagely miscast. Might be the mans a good actor, I can only recall him from his bland dozen lines spread out over two thor films. But he simply does not belong here. Call it a diversity problem but change for its own (sjw appeasement) sake is just dumb. The combining of several Plot points and starting somewhere near book 4 or 5? At best this has just looked like streamlining gone wrong.

At worst it's another case of "we have the bones of a new IP but nobody will greenlight it so we'll make it dark towerish and sell on that"

idris elba is the best part of the movie. hes one of the best actors working at the moment. had the rest of the movie been as good as elba performance it would be one of the greatest movies of all time.

if the movies a flop we will likely never get a dark tower adaptation again, just like how we'll probably never get another john carter of mars movie.

unless king starts pumping out more dark tower stuff the fanbase will only continue to decrease over time.

if were lucky the movie will do well enough for the wizard and glass tv show to get greenlit and thats the best book anyways and idris and the kid who plays jake are already contracted to do the tv show if it gets greenlit

[RobertoCarlos]

Idris Elbas talent is squandered again.

He'll always have the wire.

[eschatological]

Man, Stringer Bell, one of the baddest of badasses ever, taken out by the ultimate badass. Sorry for spoilers for a show you should have watched a decade ago, but yeah, Stringer Bell is what Idris will always be to me.

[Gallahadd]

He'll always have the wire.

And Luthor. BRILLIANT show, hugely underrated crime drama.

[Tackhisis]

And that shit crashes and burns. That's so good. I hope that will teach them not to cast black people in white roles.

[RobertoCarlos]

And Luthor. BRILLIANT show, hugely underrated crime drama.

Yeah it is good, bit low on the episode count