Advertisment is the scourge of 21th century humanity

[MrLachyG]

the 21th century? maybe advertising has gotten out of hand if we are unable to write properly due to what I can only imagine is rage at the advertisers

[Deleted]

I'm simply pointing out his hypocrisy.

You're not pointing anything, merely making irrelevant statements in a vain attempt to... do what exactly ?

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The problem isn't with advertising in general, it's just that companies get more annoying for clicks/eyeballs which make people block them out, which then makes them get ever more annoying. It's a vicious cycle.

That's pretty much it, so at what point do these people start to understand their model is failing and destructive and dogged persistence is just laziness on their part for they don't bother to look at alternatives

[Aurabolt]

...I agree with the OP.

Most folks have NO CLUE how far Advertisers go to market products and services to the public. It's a billion-dollar industry and this is why advertisements take up 10% of a 30-minute time slot. Think about it: TV shows are made with advertisements in mind, not the other way around. You ever wonder why when you watch an NBA, NFL or MLB game on TV they cut to a commercial when play stops (such as a time out)? It's to allow those who are watching at home to be bombarded with advertisements. On that note, those who watch the game in person are not spared advertisements either.

Someone mentioned a few of TV Episodes being built around marketing products or services. It's already happening and has for some time. The concept of "Commercial-free" or "Minimal Commercial Interruption" is a lie: They always run shows or movies the prominently feature products or services the viewer is probably familiar with.

You want ad-free programming? Netflix is still good about that. I currently use Crunchyroll and WWE Network neither of which have commercial interruptions.

Again, most folks have NO CLUE how far Advertisers have gone and are willing to go to market products and services. Advertisers use the power of suggestion and psychology to influence those who are exposed to ads. On TV and radio, music is used to make gingles and catchphrases that are simple enough for viewers to not only memorize but inquire about it later. It would be fair to call it manipulation but I wouldn't got so far as to call it mind control or brainwashing. Not yet, anyway.

ISPs now having the freedom to legally sell customer info to the highest bidder is very concerning. The problem will get worse before it gets better.

[xChurch]

That's pretty much it, so at what point do these people start to understand their model is failing and destructive and dogged persistence is just laziness on their part for they don't bother to look at alternatives

Unfortunately, I feel like Ad companies are going to get far more insidious before they come to that realization. Thankfully Adblock companies tend to do a decent enough job.

[matt4pack]

Advertising use to have a charm about it. I mean antique signs and stuff are all really neat but today it's just gotten awful.

[Machismo]

You're not pointing anything, merely making irrelevant statements in a vain attempt to... do what exactly ?

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That's pretty much it, so at what point do these people start to understand their model is failing and destructive and dogged persistence is just laziness on their part for they don't bother to look at alternatives

Why do you have that logo on your avatar? Are you trying to sell an ideal to others? That is an advertisement.

Like I said, I do enjoy pointing out the hypocrisy of others.

[Granyala]

Yes, advertizement is indeed a plage. Not just on the Internet but also in real life.
Main reason why I would never voluntarily listen to radio or watch TV.

Thankfully, I can enjoy many, many hours of beautiful music from my tiny clip+ w/o ever having listen to some dumb ad.

[Vash The Stampede]

Advertising is a tax on the stupid, but companies are the scourge of society. If advertising didn't work, they'd stop doing it. So there's people who saw a commercial and literally went to the store and bought the product. Blame those people.

[Lahis]

I simply have no words to describe how infuriated I have grown to become with most forms of advertisement.

And I refuse to believe that mankind, in all its grandeur and ingeniosity, is not able to find a sustainable way to fuel the creative process of its members without ressorting to it.

It has grown to the point where I will completely close my eyes and cover my ears if I am subjected to any form of unavoidable ad because they are nothing to me but an attempt to hijack our primitive brain functions with manipulation and deceit, in order to sell bullshit we don't need.

I don't own a TV, I have multiple adblockers on every platform I use and still, sometimes, ads find a mean to ruin my day by unsollicited exposition in one form or another.

Even street ads are an absolute nuisance. Who decided it was ok to put them in public space in the first place ? You're basically selling the right to put annoying and manipulative pictures in front of other people's eyes and they have no say in it ?

Fuck that, brave people have decided it was enough and i hope we'll see more of that in the future :
https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2...ban-billboards

Replace them with art or just leave the walls blank.

You can't say you're against propaganda/government agitprop and think ads are ok. It's exactly the same thing, they just promote consumerism rather than political ideologies.

I take it all form of advertising is banned in your socialist utopia?

[Khallid]

my point being if you dont know you need it, maybe you dont actually need it ?

Your definition of "need" is too narrow. Sure, you only need water and food to survive, but most of us want more than just the basic necessities. You don't need a phone, but you probably have bought a bunch of them. You don't need a TV, just go outside and play in the trees if you get bored. You don't need the Internet, just find another job, maybe a medieval one.

Obviously most ads will show you stuff you don't need, because you're not a poor person. You already have most of your needs met. But just because some products and services are not "necessary" doesn't mean they are not wanted. The idea of getting rid of everything that is not 100% crucial jumps to the point where someone would have to decide which products are ok, effectively restricting all the rest. That could only happen in an authoritative regime, because it amounts to basically eliminating people's freedom to buy whatever they want with their money.

[Granyala]

Advertising is a tax on the stupid, but companies are the scourge of society. If advertising didn't work, they'd stop doing it. So there's people who saw a commercial and literally went to the store and bought the product. Blame those people.

Actually, there is nothing wrong with advertisement.
You have to get word out about a new product somehow.

Also, contrary to a popular myth: ads do not convince people to buy. Ads make you remember a product in a time of need and increase the chances / create curiosity.

The raw amount and the typical human "I need to be louder, more stupid, flashier and BIGGER than my competitors ad in order to be the one that is remembered most!" is the root of the problem.

[Powerogue]

I deal with ads because I know the revenue is needed for the people putting up said ads to make a living. I only use adblocker when I get malicious ads, like the ones that pop up and cover your screen with an obvious virus link or talk constantly (sorry MMO champion).

[Coombs]

People like to say the greatest con the devil ever achieved was convincing humanity that he didn't exist. Well Man's greatest con was convincing the population that each person is significant, especially after purchasing this product.

[Caolela]

Sure thing.

You're comparing a small bonfire at a single event with rampant consumerism that's been going on for decades? Or the one guy holding up a phone to take a pic?

Sure thing.

[Jorgee]

I don't think advertising needs to go away necessarily, but it does need to get better. Spam is annoying. Ads with sound that autoplay on webpages are infuriating. Adware is literally a cancer on the web. It's 2017 and if you can't put some thought into a decent fucking ad then you shouldn't bother. I get that advertising brings in revenue for most sites, but the quality of ads has just taken a nosedive. Look at Wowhead; I've seen ads that autoplay obnoxious music, redirect you to another page even if you don't click them, and barring all that, slow the website to a crawl. Then the Wowhead staff get all pissy when people report the ads. Like jeez I fucking wonder why they're getting reported in the first place?

[The Flavour Cat]

I really don't mind adverts that much as long as they don't be intrusive like pop-ups or blocking the freaking screen. I wish websites would moderate what kind of bs is promoted there so that their users don't have to suffer whatever ads jump in front of you, then some of their users wouldn't have to rely on something like adblock to guide the site.

At least advertising hasn't got to Transmetropolitan levels of ridiculousness where it can even play in your mind/monitor it (Been a while since I read it).

I don't think advertising needs to go away necessarily, but it does need to get better. Spam is annoying. Ads with sound that autoplay on webpages are infuriating. Adware is literally a cancer on the web. It's 2017 and if you can't put some thought into a decent fucking ad then you shouldn't bother. I get that advertising brings in revenue for most sites, but the quality of ads has just taken a nosedive. Look at Wowhead; I've seen ads that autoplay obnoxious music, redirect you to another page even if you don't click them, and barring all that, slow the website to a crawl. Then the Wowhead staff get all pissy when people report the ads. Like jeez I fucking wonder why they're getting reported in the first place?

Same here. I wish ads would just stick to being on the webpage, not popping up or auto-playing. Thankfully I got enough rep with wowhead to have free premium so no more annoying ads to deal with!

[Vash The Stampede]

Actually, there is nothing wrong with advertisement.
You have to get word out about a new product somehow.

Also, contrary to a popular myth: ads do not convince people to buy. Ads make you remember a product in a time of need and increase the chances / create curiosity.

The raw amount and the typical human "I need to be louder, more stupid, flashier and BIGGER than my competitors ad in order to be the one that is remembered most!" is the root of the problem.

I know, and advertising has gone too far multiple times in history. Remember pop up ads? That's what we had before web browsers got pop up blocker. Now we have adblocker which is again forcing websites to rethink how they show ads. And Chrome is even putting in an adblocker.

If you want to get the word out, there are less intrusive ways to do so. But advertising is such big business that Google is literally an advertising company. Google doesn't specialize in a search engine, they specialize in advertising. There's a lot of money in adverting. Too much money.

[Livnthedream]

You're comparing a small bonfire at a single event with rampant consumerism that's been going on for decades? Or the one guy holding up a phone to take a pic?

Sure thing.

More the self described Communist Antifa guy taking a selfie for brownie points. But it is ok, I know your own people are hard to hold to the same rules that you want others to follow.

[oxymoronic]

if your product requires exposition to be bought then it was not needed in the first place

people need cars, if you stopped advertising for cars people would still buy them, but maybe they would pay more attention to what they put money into rather than being hypnotized by boobs and social status pretenses

after reading your posts just today i have concluded you are the france equivalent of orlong.

[Doctor Amadeus]

I would agree, I think any time advertising crosses the line from telling you possible information to help you make an informed choice about what to buy that can actually be helpful or something you want, it's great.

Advertising that crosses the line into telling you what you want or need and selling complete and utter worthless junk, or gimmicks especially the commercials you watch 28 seconds and can barely tell what the fuck they are selling, Yeah I would rather start with sales man and advertisers at the bottom of the ocean than lawyers for that old saying.