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  1. #281
    Quote Originally Posted by Kazakov View Post
    Arguing with Anaxie is pointless. Like playing chess with a pigeon.
    He isn't interested in arguments. He is just repeating the same stuff for the last.. 10 pages, i guess.

    It doesn't matter what you think, Blizzard can and will make up lore when needed. It's impossible for Warcraft to run out of lore simply because it's not based on anything anymore. We are long past the RTS story and now Blizzard can create whatever they want.
    No first you have to point to credible villans or ones being worked on. Instead of working on a new major villan legion is building azshara nzoth the ethereals and the void

    We have azuna and the tidestone
    We have nzoths emerald nightmare
    We have the lore goldmine shadowpriest dagger
    We have all sources implying nzoths prison is below ToS
    We have the emeral nightmare boss quotes
    We have magni waking up and talking to azeroth
    We have naga even in the ToS raid as bosses
    We hve the huge void presence on Argus
    We have a ethernum and void themed dungeon in 7.3
    We have the titans telling us to product azeroth in the mined 7.3 finale quotes
    We have kul tiras mined stuff which is in proxomity to nazjatar and nzoths prison
    Nzoth and azshara reside in the last unexplored islands dotting central azeroth and below

  2. #282
    Quote Originally Posted by DesoPL View Post
    If you suggesting visit Zerus or Char in WoW, i am totally lol'd right now.
    Yeah because I totally said that we should go to Planets from other franchises.. I am sure you are just being fucking dumb on purpose but what I mean and you know this because anyone with half a brain can figure this out is that Blizzard can just expand the warcraft lore and come up with new places and enemies at a whim because WoW isn't based off of any source material that can't be changed.

  3. #283
    Quote Originally Posted by Donald Hellscream View Post
    Yeah because I totally said that we should go to Planets from other franchises.. I am sure you are just being fucking dumb on purpose but what I mean and you know this because anyone with half a brain can figure this out is that Blizzard can just expand the warcraft lore and come up with new places and enemies at a whim because WoW isn't based off of any source material that can't be changed.
    When have random places been used EzvER?

  4. #284
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    Quote Originally Posted by anaxie View Post
    And because you cant fucking read reasons
    What are you talking about? I didn't read anything in the post besides the OP lol?

    Its true though, what I said, most people think the game should've ended with The Lich King purely because of Warcraft supping him up into such a big bad character and that's just the wrong mind set. World of Warcraft is an active story, not a story that has already happened. So of course new lore can develop as we are seeing the story unfold as we go further. of course we will see retcons and old things change over time to cater to new ideas and new story threads, but retcons are seen in just about everything these days, some waaaay more massive then that of WoW and some also way worse then Blizzard has tried to pull off with anything in their titles. So new lore can be good lore, or bad lore. Depending on what it is and what it changes or effects in the old lore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wvvtayy View Post
    People who think WoWs days are numbered just because eventually it's going to run out of lore. Even once every possible thing from WC3 is exhausted what makes you think they can't just make up new lore?
    Because it's not Warcraft anymore. Azshara, Zul and N'zoth are left, once they're dead, we'll no longer have a villain that's been developed since WC started.

  6. #286
    Quote Originally Posted by anaxie View Post
    When have random places been used EzvER?
    They haven't because the need hasn't been there yet, what I am saying is that they can make new lore when the need arises. Obviously we still have threats to deal with that are established in lore like N'zoth and Aszhara but once all the currently known threats are gone WoW isn't just gonna end when it is Blizzard themselves who are writing the story and thus can add whatever the hell they want to it, even stuff we have never heard of before.
    Last edited by Donald Hellscream; 2017-08-09 at 02:30 PM.

  7. #287
    Quote Originally Posted by Donald Hellscream View Post
    They haven't because the need hasn't been there yet, what I am saying is that they can make new lore when the need arises. Obviously we still have threats to deal with that are established in lore like N'zoth and Aszhara but once all the currently known threats are gone WoW isn't just gonna end when it is Blizzard themselves who are writing the story and thus can add whatever the hell they want to it, even stuff we have never heard of before.
    So we purge then entire armies and all the void lords minions a d only void lords left.

    Time to go fight glurpglop the rogue ogre expansion?

    This shit eont happen. Its like legion ending at tomb

    And the did make their own new original lore and expand it in legion. Unfortunately thats ethereals and void corruption and you ignore that and what it heralds

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    Ill break the 8.0 finale down simple

    Horde on kezan alliance on kul tiras. Both major harbors

    Intro raid prophet zul on zandalar isle
    T1 azsharas palace in nazjatar and likely neptulon plot
    T2 nyolotha the sleeping city and nzoth
    T3 K'aresh homeworld of the Ethereals consumed by the void. Villans Nexus King Shaladar and Dimensius the All-Devoring

    K'aresh would be multi zoned like argus
    Potential Ethereal race. The Protectoret faction
    Potential wankedfest tinker class due to ethereal nature and lore. Technomancer

    That is a hype expansion.

    What isnt hype and is crickets wothy silence is fuckin random land #5 and random evil no name glurpglop the Bloodied viollan.
    Last edited by anaxie; 2017-08-09 at 02:42 PM.

  8. #288
    Quote Originally Posted by Myrok View Post
    Because the lore has gone downhill since WotLK. In reality, due to the incessant nature of this game for "baddies" to defeat, one could easily make a case against WoW for the destruction of the franchise.
    There'll always be someone. Always. How is this bad? It's natural.

  9. #289
    Quote Originally Posted by anaxie View Post
    So we purge then entire armies and all the void lords minions a d only void lords left.

    Time to go fight glurpglop the rogue ogre expansion?

    This shit eont happen. Its like legion ending at tomb

    And the did make their own new original lore and expand it in legion. Unfortunately thats ethereals and void corruption and you ignore that and what it heralds
    Well then they will just make even worse baddies after the Void Lords or go several expansion cycles before we actually fight them just like they did with The Burning Legion, point being WoW isn't shutting down anytime soon.

  10. #290
    Quote Originally Posted by Halyon View Post
    There'll always be someone. Always. How is this bad? It's natural.
    Then why is no one being creTed or built up outside the final established few?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald Hellscream View Post
    Well then they will just make even worse baddies after the Void Lords or go several expansion cycles before we actually fight them just like they did with The Burning Legion, point being WoW isn't shutting down anytime soon.
    The void lords is the final battle. When the void is subdued azeroth is saved forevermore several cycles btw? Well considering its been 3 expansions since azshar and nzoth made a bold offenive in cata it has been a few cycles. Also stop being blind to the entire content lushing them in legion

  11. #291
    Quote Originally Posted by anaxie View Post
    Then why is no one being creTed or built up outside the final established few?

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    The void lords is the final battle. When the void is subdued azeroth is saved forevermore
    until Blizzard decides otherwise.

  12. #292
    Quote Originally Posted by Akande Ogundimu View Post
    Because it's not Warcraft anymore. Azshara, Zul and N'zoth are left, once they're dead, we'll no longer have a villain that's been developed since WC started.
    "It's not warcraft anymore" since all orcs are not evil warmongers, or since god was made non-canon, or since the burning legion's concept was created, or since the scourge/forsaken and night elves have been introduced. We can pick any point in the timeline and make the same claim.

  13. #293
    Quote Originally Posted by Halyon View Post
    There'll always be someone. Always. How is this bad? It's natural.
    Because it waters down the story with villans that have no hype and trhe game becomes fucking forgettable

  14. #294
    Quote Originally Posted by anaxie View Post
    Then why is no one being creTed or built up outside the final established few?

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    The void lords is the final battle. When the void is subdued azeroth is saved forevermore several cycles btw? Well considering its been 3 expansions since azshar and nzoth made a bold offenive in cata it has been a few cycles. Also stop being blind to the entire content lushing them in legion
    Did you suspect that Garrosh would become the last boss of an expansion and the reason behind another expansion's plot when you met him mopping about the planet dying in TBC? Truth is we cannot tell when blizzard decides to introduce new important characters without hindsight

  15. #295
    Quote Originally Posted by zlygork View Post
    "It's not warcraft anymore" since all orcs are not evil warmongers, or since god was made non-canon, or since the burning legion's concept was created, or since the scourge/forsaken and night elves have been introduced. We can pick any point in the timeline and make the same claim.
    U missed the point entirely

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    Quote Originally Posted by zlygork View Post
    Did you suspect that Garrosh would become the last boss of an expansion and the reason behind another expansion's plot when you met him mopping about the planet dying in TBC? Truth is we cannot tell when blizzard decides to introduce new important characters without hindsight
    When he started a third war in cata and all his advisors hated him. There were plenty of seeds. Him just taking the power of an old god cemented his fate

    That said garrosh is not the primary antagonist. Garrosh and his war was unrelated to the threat the thunder king and zandalar presented. And garrosh was only able to make his solo bid for power by finding the heart of the most powerful old god.

    Ob and

    Its legion they aeent building up a garrosh. Again

    Legion is pushing Azshara Nzoth and the Void everywhere. 7.3s only dungeon on ARGUS is a void invasion on the legions home turf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald Hellscream View Post
    until Blizzard decides otherwise.

    Except its not debatable. The void is the ultimate end. Chronicle vol 1 is already written

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    Glad i clarified everything
    Last edited by anaxie; 2017-08-09 at 03:23 PM.

  16. #296
    Quote Originally Posted by anaxie View Post
    Then why is no one being creTed or built up outside the final established few?
    It'd be too obvious for once... Good villains don't always just act like the obvious moustache-twirling villain.

  17. #297
    Quote Originally Posted by Halyon View Post
    It'd be too obvious for once... Good villains don't always just act like the obvious moustache-twirling villain.
    This is blizzard

    They dont do subtle

  18. #298
    Quote Originally Posted by anaxie View Post
    This is blizzard

    They dont do subtle
    Again, you talked to me about Garrosh in cata (which was already a villain, unless you completely ignored the books set in cata and obsessed over that one quest where he is honorable), but he was very subtly suggested to be going down that path during wotlk and yet no one at that time would have suspected him becoming SOO Garrosh.

  19. #299
    Quote Originally Posted by zlygork View Post
    Again, you talked to me about Garrosh in cata (which was already a villain, unless you completely ignored the books set in cata and obsessed over that one quest where he is honorable), but he was very subtly suggested to be going down that path during wotlk and yet no one at that time would have suspected him becoming SOO Garrosh.
    He wasnt honorable he was a manic in wotlk and before then.

    He made kromgar the patsey after kromgar massacred a tauren village for objecting the druid school bombing.
    Kromgar even says but you said! Before being cut off asked a rhetorical no win question. And thrown to death
    Then after he throat grabs you because its your turn bec
    Fore the tauren is like what the fuck are you doing?!

    So honorable. Said the guy who just got choked by the dictator orc with daddy issues
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamboozler View Post
    Still beating this old dead dog? Clearly this guy has no interest in being open to other opinions.

    He's Ms. Cleo and he has a crystal ball, guys! He sees the future! I've been saving some of his responses for when 9.0 releases so he can eat crow. So worth it.
    Becuse opinions like they never will because money isnt an answer.

    I dont need a crystal ball

    If you know the games villans nd lore. If you actually know the events of legion and hav eyes and can read. The next step is obviousp
    Last edited by anaxie; 2017-08-09 at 04:19 PM.

  20. #300
    People been saying wow was going to die for some reason or another since Vanilla. I wouldn't worry about it.

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