Should American video game publishers make games like Horizon or the Witcher?

[G3istly]

the irony is - everything you said here was 100% SUBjective.

The irony is, is that it's not but it's good to know you have poor taste in gaming like so many others.

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I assume you still think DA2 was great with adult storyline and other things, did i am right?

Also i don't want hear anymore about US RPG attempts, not after how they butchered Gothic series.

DA2? Dragon Age? Haha, no. I think those games are horribly overrated. Bioware isn't half the amazing storyteller people make them out to be.

[Witchblade77]

The irony is, is that it's not but it's good to know you have poor taste in gaming like so many others.

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DA2? Dragon Age? Haha, no. I think those games are horribly overrated. Bioware isn't half the amazing storyteller people make them out to be.

no honey. its entirely your opinion. and as such? subjective. you, my dear, need to learn what the meaning of "objective" actualy is.

[Jyggalag]

The world has enough games like the Witcher

Personally, I think the world needs more games like XCOM

You sir, are a buffoon.

[DrMcNinja]

The thing is, the developers of Witcher 3 and Horizon don't have that many big franchises, and tend to explore new things more than companies which already have a formula that works and which the masses already enjoy.

E.g. before they created Horizon, they were only doing Killzone games. So what do you do if you delve into a genre which you aren't familiar with? How do you compete with big franchises within that genre? You can't just take another formula and slap your brand on it because that will just make you seem like copycats. You need to be more creative with that kind of stuff.

They're not big studios with worldwide influence where copies just fly out like hot cakes based on the name alone, like Fallout 4, (though CD Projekt's influence in the industry has skyrocketed) so they can't get away with doing simple things, you need to stand out.

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You sir, are a buffoon.

At least he got Mario X(com) Rabbits so he's probably happy

[DesoPL]

First of all, i think we all forget what happend to few RPG series maked later by US.

Spellbound just perfectly ruined Gothic 4, in US known as Arcania: A Gothic Tale. This game is abomination and insults much previous Gothic 1 and Gothic 2 Night Of The Raven.

Also Bioware ruined Mass Effect on thier own wish with idea. "Hey! Let's screw up ME:A and sacrifice planned DLC, to make new IP!" "Oh cool bro! But what we will name them?" "Anthem" "Yeah! That's cool! Oh and let's bring back Casey! I know we can get lots of dirty cash with his help!" "Kay!"

[StrawberryZebra]

You sir, are a buffoon.

We have thousands of epic, story driven RPG's, with even more released every year. We have very few games at all where the narrative is decided almost entirely by the players actions. I would like more of the latter since we already have a huge library of the former. Game mechanics telling the story is the most unique aspect of our medium - We should be encouraging developers to embrace it rather than applauding when they lift techniques wholesale from Books and Cinema.

What do I mean when I say narative decided by the players actions?

For example, in my latest XCOM 2 game I decided to have my squad be all of the actors who've played James Bond. Sean Connary was shot heroically saving two children from an ADVENT MEC and bled out on the battlefield before I could evacuate him. Daniel Craig and Roger Moore were killed during a supply raid when they were ambushed by Mutons. Pierce Brosnan died a horiffic death by acid at the hands of an Andromedon. Thank fuck David Niven stared in Casino Royale - He ultimately saved the world when he came up trumps on a 17% chance last ditch pistol shot on the last surviving Avatar to win the game for me.

None of the above is a result of prerendered cutscenes, in game story or set piece moments. It's entirely on me and my actions in game, and the overall story is far more memorable, compelling and ultimately far more personal because of it than any 50+ hour strictly on-rails RPG.

[Pony Soldier]

Because nothing is made in the US.

[anaxie]

Didnt a polish ambassador give obama the witcher 2?

Witcher is good because cdprojectred and poland have a tremendous amount of pride in what they made

Heres the article

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-witcher-2015-7

[dope_danny]

Didnt a polish ambassador give obama the witcher 2?

Witcher is good because cdprojectred and poland have a tremendous amount of pride in what they made

Heres the article

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-witcher-2015-7

The creator though is kind of hilarious. Writer of Metro 2033 loves that people love the games and love the audience and is proud of something from Russia being popular the world over. Writer of the Witcher is a bitter old fuck who hates videogames, sold the rights for a pittance not knowing how much money videogames made and is monumentally buttmad people know the games and not the books.

[anaxie]

The creator though is kind of hilarious. Writer of Metro 2033 loves that people love the games and love the audience and is proud of something from Russia being popular the world over. Writer of the Witcher is a bitter old fuck who hates videogames, sold the rights for a pittance not knowing how much money videogames made and is monumentally buttmad people know the games and not the books.

Yup i know.

Fuck him

[Aeula]

You mean like Bethesda games? You know, that company that is named after the town of the same name in Maryland? Makers of Elder Scrolls, the 3d Fallout games, and Dishonored?

Please tell me you didn't just praise elder scrolls and Bethesda's fallouts for their storylines and memorable characters.

The main storylines in Bethesda's games have always been it's weakness and the only characters that are memorable are meme characters like whiterun guards, Preston and the horrible and unintentionally hilarious Oblivion dialogue. And this coming from a fan of the elder scrolls franchise since morrowind.

Dishonoured was made by the French last I heard.

American companies like blizzard and Bethesda are good at building worlds and filling them with lore, but when it comes to story and memorable characters they do hilariously bad.

[Marrilaife]

Writer of the Witcher is a bitter old fuck who hates videogames, sold the rights for a pittance not knowing how much money videogames made and is monumentally buttmad people know the games and not the books.

Hahahah, he should have known better as an economist and and ex fur trader. I remember back in the days when the movie & tv series were made (pretty poor quality, contrary to the game) he was like "yea whatever I'm just selling the rights I'll be glad if they don't cast a pink poodle to play a mainchar", yeah literally the quote from some interview with him.

He was always cynical and saying it's just for the money, never really liked the guy. And maybe good people "don't know the books" because the first two with short stories were deemed good while the following 5-volume novel was dragged on and not so good. I admire the game creators for actually piecing the lore world together with maps, rulers, organizations and everything together because the author only left clues here and there, didn't even want a map unlike nearly every other fantasy world out there. If you'd expect something on the game of thrones level, you'd be disappointed.

[Super Kami Dende]

The best thing about companies not in America/Canada making Games, is you avoid agenda ridden pieces of shit like ME:A getting made much of the time.

[Mirishka]

I still don't get why people say Witcher 3 is better than Skyrim. The points of interest were tiny, the plot was rather average imo, the graphics were nice and actually large cities were cool but that's about all I'd give Witcher 3 over skyrim, combat and character progression were inferior to Skyrim as well.

Opinions. Read up on them sometime.

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no honey. its entirely your opinion. and as such? subjective. you, my dear, need to learn what the meaning of "objective" actualy is.

Indeed. For every 'lol ME Andromeda sux' there's someone who enjoyed it. People need to grow up and learn that the world doesn't begin and end with their opinions.

[unholytestament]

The creator though is kind of hilarious. Writer of Metro 2033 loves that people love the games and love the audience and is proud of something from Russia being popular the world over. Writer of the Witcher is a bitter old fuck who hates videogames, sold the rights for a pittance not knowing how much money videogames made and is monumentally buttmad people know the games and not the books.

Maybe now he has a decent idea of how Elric fans feel about his work.

[DesoPL]

Maybe now he has a decent idea of how Elric fans feel about his work.

Nah Sapkowski didin't changed his mind, even more i remember when he said in one of interviews year ago if i good remember.

"My books was perfect, but CDProject fucked up this popularity to make game* Yeah cool story bro, but if not games, no one outside the Poland, could ever heard of Witcher. He is just pride buffon.

[Marrilaife]

"My books was perfect, but CDProject fucked up this popularity to make game* Yeah cool story bro, but if not games, no one outside the Poland, could ever heard of Witcher. He is just pride buffon.

Also a lazy one, wanting just to endlessly rake dividends from books he wrote over 20 years ago? He should be glad he's still making money off them. I don't think any of his other projects got much success beyond initial hype "oh look it's from the same guy who created Witcher". He said once he wanted to continue the saga with another series with Ciri as main char, but he decided against it and destroyed it. Bet he regrets that now.

[FobManX]

Who cares anyway...we live in a global society. What's made in one country is available just about everywhere.

[DesoPL]

Also a lazy one, wanting just to endlessly rake dividends from books he wrote over 20 years ago? He should be glad he's still making money off them. I don't think any of his other projects got much success beyond initial hype "oh look it's from the same guy who created Witcher". He said once he wanted to continue the saga with another series with Ciri as main char, but he decided against it and destroyed it. Bet he regrets that now.

The more fun thing is, that he agreed to make the games, but thing is more complicated.