Percentage of Europeans Who Are Willing To Fight A War For Their Country

[Vorkreist]

fight a war for your country means fight in the middle east or pirates in somalia these days, ofcourse people don't want to do that.

when fight a war for your country means defend your country from an actual direct threat, the numbers will go up.

This concept seems hard to grasp for the newer generation especially those living far away from any potential conflicts.

[Rafoel]

>Not wanting to fight a war to profit the big business or your dear leader makes you pussy.


Good ol' Militaristic/patriotic propaganda. Something the US and Turkey are both good at.
Most Euro countries have no outside threats, we are not all Finland.

There is a common "belief" in Europe that in case of virtually any military conflict it will be possible to instantly and safely escape with all your belongings and wealth to the "West" (because the bad thing always come from East, obviously).

The Cold War mentality is mainly to blame for it.

This mentality would change fast though if people realized there is nowhere to escape.

[Dreknar20]

I doubt even half of those who responded they would fight for their country would actually do so if it came to war.

well something Rogan said, people who even answer surveys in the first place are probably morons

[JohnBrown1917]

why yes, mere intelligence will take influence/power from other countries and add it to your own

Make think low of your enemies/competition, but they are not that retarded

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whats the difference? The combat will be the same either way.

Least in an aggressive war you are set to actually gain something.

That is no good reason to start a war. Defensive wars are about defending yourself and your family.

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There is a common "belief" in Europe that in case of virtually any military conflict it will be possible to instantly and safely escape with all your belongings and wealth to the "West" (because the bad thing always come from East, obviously).

The Cold War mentality is mainly to blame for it.

This mentality would change fast though if people realized there is nowhere to escape.

Again, we have no threats at the moment. The OP is about fighting in a war, not a defensive war. Unless you live in Finland or something, you have no reason to think the question actually refers to defensive wars.

[d00mGuArD]

Wars are no longer fought between countries in the traditional invasion/defense sense. This is 2017
Nowadays you insert "rebels" into countries and call it civil war. Like Syria and Ukraine.
Then the countries support the local (or inserted) groups and fight by representatives.
This can happen to any country no exceptions. I can't believe people don't know this yet. When was the last time you saw an actual invasion

[JohnBrown1917]

I think it's time to surrender to our Muslim Overlords.

Yup, the 5% will take over.

[Dreknar20]

That is no good reason to start a war.

making your country better/bigger/stronger is not a good reason..............what exactly is the point of geopolitics again?

[JohnBrown1917]

making your country better/bigger/stronger is not a good reason..............what exactly is the point of geopolitics again?

At the cost of human lives? No, i'm not in support of that. We already had that black page in our history. Nobody here thinks what we did to Indosia and Africa are good things.

Besides, we can make the country bigger with polders.

[Dreknar20]

At the cost of human lives? No, i'm not in support of that

power is finite. Only way to gain it is to take it from someone else.

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We already had that black page in our history

idealism to the level of a five year old to think wars will just be in our past

[JohnBrown1917]

power is finite. Only way to gain it is to take it from someone else.

I don't care, not fighting a war to benefit the super rich/elite. We don't need more power.

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idealism to the level of a five year old to think wars will just be in our past

Never said that.

[Dreknar20]

I don't care, not fighting a war to benefit the super rich/elite.

more powerful country benefits everyone. It increases the odds of surviving the next conflict.

And whole point of oversea wars is to keep wars.........overseas..........and not on your home turf

[GennGreymane]

more powerful country benefits everyone. It increases the odds of surviving the next conflict.

Also true, but its gonna be hard to sell it to people whose only experience with war in the last few decades have been wars of... well... nothing

[JohnBrown1917]

more powerful country benefits everyone. It increases the odds of surviving the next conflict.

And whole point of oversea wars is to keep wars.........overseas..........and not on your home turf

You keep forgetting my tiny ass country has no threats, its surrounded by friendly nations.
Im really not a fan of killing millions of innocents just so the rich can get richer.

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Also true, but its gonna be hard to sell it to people whose only experience with war in the last few decades have been wars of... well... nothing

Nah, its obvious European countries should start colonizing and oppressing others again, because muh imperialism.

[GennGreymane]

You keep forgetting my tiny ass country has no threats, its surrounded by friendly nations.
Im really not a fan of killing millions of innocents just so the rich can get richer.

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Nah, its obvious European countries should start colonizing and oppressing others again, because muh imperialism.

Im also thinking from a US perspective on Europe. The last 2 decades have been wars of... well... nothing, but they did line pockets.

[Fuiking]

You keep forgetting my tiny ass country has no threats, its surrounded by friendly nations.
Im really not a fan of killing millions of innocents just so the rich can get richer.

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Nah, its obvious European countries should start colonizing and oppressing others again, because muh imperialism.

No threats? (Regardless of not having no bullets and no tanks and years of budget defense cuts) IS is one, Russia might be another, and a Trumps America First might be a third.

tldr: Things, the world change, being naieve (like the dutch and its government generally are) is not going to safe you from that change.

[Dreknar20]

Also true, but its gonna be hard to sell it to people whose only experience with war in the last few decades have been wars of... well... nothing

well that's why you coat the war in idealisitc terms like freedom! for justice! for rightness!

[GennGreymane]

well that's why you coat the war in idealisitc terms like freedom! for justice! for rightness!

Hasn't worked since Iraq. After that went to shit well... people givin a fuck went pretty far down.

[Dreknar20]

tldr: Things, the world change, being naieve (like the dutch and its government generally are) is not going to safe you from that change.

in other words what countries say/intend is irrelevant. What they are capable of is whats important.

A country stronger than you is always a threat, whether they are currently friendly is irrelevant.

[JohnBrown1917]

No threats? (Regardless of not having no bullets and no tanks and years of budget defense cuts) IS is one, Russia might be another, and a Trumps America First might be a third.

tldr: Things, the world change, being naieve (like the dutch and its government generally are) is not going to safe you from that change.

We do have bullets and we are currently 'leasing' German tanks.

Russia is too far away, and even Trump wont start a war with Europe.

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Im also thinking from a US perspective on Europe. The last 2 decades have been wars of... well... nothing, but they did line pockets.

More like any western-started war after WWII.

[bufferunderrun]

I don't believe it, you'd rather live under Russian rule?




http://brilliantmaps.com/europe-fight-war/



Europe is the continent with the fewest people willing to fight a war for their country. Globally, an average of 61% of respondents in 64 countries said they would. Morocco (94%), Fiji (94%), Pakistan (89%), Vietnam (89%) and Bangladesh (86%) had the highest percentage willing to fight.

The country with the fewest people willing to go to war was Japan, with just 11% of respondents saying they would fight.

Since World War Two, Europe has been relatively peaceful with major exceptions of the Yugoslav Wars in the 1990s and various political suppressions during the Cold War. However, the 19th century was also a relatively peaceful time for Europe that ended with the start of World War I.

mostly because nowadays "fight a war" mean fighting for some corporation or rich bastard interest; you can bet that if there was the concrete possibility of a traditional war those percentages would skyrocket.