Garrosh Hellscream vs Illidan Stormrage

[kaelix1]

This vs. thread is really dumb.

Agree, the main problem with this version of Garrosh is that we don't really know how much ''juice'' he got from the heart, his pretty much featless compare with Illidan, same thing happen with Vs Arthas thread

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Garrosh because i dislike Illidan alot.

[Illrae]

Illidan Stormrage all the way!

[Friendlyimmolation]

People forget that Illidan was beating arthas, and then he got cocky and started gloating. And he got destroyed. If he even starts to gloat or talk about how unhappy he is/whatever Garrosh would probably take the opening and whack him right in the same spot Arthas did.

[FelPlague]

Agreed , Garrosh is Pathetic but with the Old God's Heart He got a massive boost in his own power (even with that I doubt he has a chance against Illidan's experience with both Arcane and Fel magic)

Will make several X vs Y Threads over time , will consider this

remember when we fought illidan he was weakened drastically by a ritual he preformed, we woulda stood no chance against him at full power

[Reza2001]

Agree, the main problem with this version of Garrosh is that we don't really know how much ''juice'' he got from the heart, his pretty much featless compare with Illidan, same thing happen with Vs Arthas thread

Since Garrosh got his powers directly from an Old God ('s Heart) We can compare the power increase by comparing him with Cho'gall , The same guy who also got empowered by an Old God (C'thun)
They both are similar when they are empowered by an Old God (Spiky body , Random Eyeballs on the host's body , Gaining new powers related to the Void and Darkness) The bad part is Garrosh didn't remain in this Old God'ish form (Which I'd call bullshit writing) While in-game he is shown without ANY side-effect from using those powers , In War Crimes it was mentioned that he still had some effects of the heart's power on his body , not even shown in WoD as well but Blizzard totally ignored that it seems

remember when we fought illidan he was weakened drastically by a ritual he preformed, we woulda stood no chance against him at full power

That's true , He was basically near His deathbed when we faced Him in BC

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This vs. thread is really dumb.

Come on , This kind of threads are meant for discussing and having fun nothing else

[Eazy]

remember when we fought illidan he was weakened drastically by a ritual he preformed, we woulda stood no chance against him at full power

We didn't have a change against him. He just imprisioned us all in a second(just as Arthas - he could kill us all momentally), but then Maiev came.
...and he also had like 5% of his power.
In the Rise of the Lich King it's told that Illidan was toying with Arthas(fully powered by Nerzhul)... I'm wondering what's his real power level.

[FelPlague]

We didn't have a change against him. He just imprisioned us all in a second(just as Arthas - he could kill us all momentally), but then Maiev came.

(just as Arthas - he could kill us all momentally), but then Maiev came.

but then Maiev came.

Maiev came.

Maiev came.

Im sorry, just, the people who ship illimaiev just... its too good.

[McNeil]

I don't think Illidan is as strong as people make it out to be, but he's definately a lot stronger than Garrosh who is imo just a stronger orc warrior. Garrosh lost almost all of his battles and it took him to use the powers of the sha to be able to properly fight back, and then still lose. Illidan accomplished a lot more despite a couple of major losses (losing to Maiev, Arthas, the players in TBC) but he has gained more power over his course.

[Airlick]

Now if you were to compare Illidan vs Grommash i would be interested.

Unbuffed (that is, early WC3) Illidan would roflstomp unbuffed Grom. Buffed Illidan would roflstomp buffed Grom. Exactly the same goes for Illidan vs. Garrosh. This really isn't a challenge.

[Reza2001]

The better fight would be Broxigar with the Axe of Cenarius vs. Illidan. Sure, Broxigar was 'just a warrior' (like Garrosh), but he basically became the pinnacle of what an Orc Warrior can become.

A mary sue ?

That's what happens when an Orc Warrior goes Super Orc 1 , Then Sargeras feared he might jump to Super Orc God Super Orc so he one-shotted him

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Im sorry, just, the people who ship illimaiev just... its too good.

Haha good one

[Deleted]

Unbuffed (that is, early WC3) Illidan would roflstomp unbuffed Grom. Buffed Illidan would roflstomp buffed Grom. Exactly the same goes for Illidan vs. Garrosh. This really isn't a challenge.

Lol, we got a Illidan fanboy.

[SirCowdog]

Since Garrosh got his powers directly from an Old God ('s Heart) We can compare the power increase by comparing him with Cho'gall , The same guy who also got empowered by an Old God (C'thun)

Check out the wiki. The heart of Y'shaarj is only 1/7 of Y'shaarj's power. The other 6 pieces went to creating the Sha, and were already destroyed by adventurers by the time of the Siege of Orgrimmar. Which means Garry only had access to 1/7 of Y'shaarj's power, maybe a little more since it technically was the heart(most powerful piece, supposedly).

I'd wager that Garry vs Cho would be a closer fight. Illidan at the height of his power vs Cho'gal AND Garrosh would be a good fight. The magic of Cho'gal combined with the rage and strength of Garrosh would be an extremely dangerous combo.

[Airlick]

Lol, we got a Illidan fanboy.

Yeah, I like Illidan. I definitely like him more than a guy whos greatest achievements are slaughtering defenseless kids and women, getting manipulated by demons and dying because a certain demon didn't believe someone would go kamikaze on him, which, coincidentally, is the only reason some people may like him and think he's anything more than a villain.

[Typhoria]

Lol, we got a Illidan fanboy.

Illidan beat the hell out of Magtheridon AND ensnared him in magical bindings easily. He also obliterated Azgoth in one hit. Grom had to do a kamikaze attack on Mannoroth to kill him in the main timeline. In the alternate timeline, the iron horde was completely ready to deal with him.

[The Stormbringer]

Yeah, I like Illidan. I definitely like him more than a guy whos greatest achievements are slaughtering defenseless kids and women, getting manipulated by demons and dying because a certain demon didn't believe someone would go kamikaze on him, which, coincidentally, is the only reason some people may like him and think he's anything more than a villain.

But he killed that one Ogre by biting his throat out that one time! That was cool, right Airlick? Right?

[Reza2001]

Check out the wiki. The heart of Y'shaarj is only 1/7 of Y'shaarj's power. The other 6 pieces went to creating the Sha, and were already destroyed by adventurers by the time of the Siege of Orgrimmar. Which means Garry only had access to 1/7 of Y'shaarj's power, maybe a little more since it technically was the heart(most powerful piece, supposedly).

I'd wager that Garry vs Cho would be a closer fight. Illidan at the height of his power vs Cho'gal AND Garrosh would be a good fight. The magic of Cho'gal combined with the rage and strength of Garrosh would be an extremely dangerous combo.

Didn't knew about that ... It makes sense now since there were 7 Shas , and there was a heart , so it will be 1/8 of it ? Y'shaarj must've been stupid to not empower Garrosh fully , But I guess since he didn't trust him maybe ? Garrosh was in control of himself the entire time , His Pride's power > Old God's Corrupting powers
Also i'll consider that idea , will make versus forums over-time , don't want to make them all in one time that just makes it boring

[Sencha]

Enough with those childish "who's stronger" threads...

[Jastall]

A group of adventurers beat him without the help of Thrall. He only lived because he was spared.

This vs. thread is really dumb.

At that point the adventurers were really freaking strong, however, considering they previously soloed the Thunder King who was explicitly more powerful than Arthas himself. Back in BC were still newbs comparatively and yet we killed Illidan with help.

So I'd say vanilla Garrosh loses badly to Illidank, but empowered Garrosh wins. That Old God juju is the real stuff, yo.

[Astalnar]

I dunno how strong illidan is but garrosh is really pathetic.
Now if you were to compare Illidan vs Grommash i would be interested.

Damn, that's a fight I'd pay to see. Grom would probably bleed Illidan, and then drink his blood in order to get stronger mid fight.

I miss good ol' green Grom ...