Car ploughs through protesters at Charlottesville Alt-Right rally

[Pickynerd]

Don't be there, don't be the problem, don't be hurt.

Bullheaded idiot will indeed show that s/he is champion.

rise above, or fall.

[Jeezy911]

It shouldn't just be removed. It should be melted down into slag. Publicly.

Traitors don't get monuments. Traitors get the sword. Robert E Lee was spared it only through an act of mercy by the victors.

Yep time to remove those MLK statues too then. He was also a traitor at the time.

[Bullettime]

sure, so should any MLK monument then, as at the time, he was a law breaking traitor.

Civil disobedience for civil rights is far different than seceding and going to war with the country so the rich could own people.

[The Oblivion]

Well, you don't seem to be giving them free reign, so that statement is categorically false.

now we just need to give them the ISIS treatment, as they are terrorists

[Manabomb]

That's quite a claim. Mind posting where I stated that?

But you are aware it was a nazi, white supremacist, white nationalist race rally where a series of domestic terrorist attacks were carried out against the residents of the town?

Just pointing that out, incase you want to try and backstep again.

[Machismo]

Don't be there, don't be the problem, don't be hurt.

Bullheaded idiot will indeed show that s/he is champion.

rise above, or fall.

What does that even mean?

[Pannonian]

This is a fundamentally ridiculous argument.

There is no "erasing of history". Nobody is trying to claim the American Civil War didn't happen. Removing these statues puts an end to a practice of celebrating the villains of history, of applauding the actions and ideology of one of the darkest chapters of American history.

Berlin doesn't have a statue of Adolf Hitler in their main square. That doesn't mean they're trying to forget the Nazis, it just means they're not celebrating the Nazis.

It's also funny, considering Americans forced us to rename the adolf-hitler square(though lets face it: Schwarzenbergplatz sounds way better - so thanks for that!)

[Machismo]

Yep time to remove those MLK statues too then. He was also a traitor at the time.

Did MLK support the systematic enslavement of an entire race?

[Doctor Amadeus]

Yep time to remove those MLK statues too then. He was also a traitor at the time.

Really because of objections to his personal life, or because of conjecture about who he got funding from?

[Venant]

This is a fundamentally ridiculous argument.

There is no "erasing of history". Nobody is trying to claim the American Civil War didn't happen. Removing these statues puts an end to a practice of celebrating the villains of history, of applauding the actions and ideology of one of the darkest chapters of American history.

Berlin doesn't have a statue of Adolf Hitler in their main square. That doesn't mean they're trying to forget the Nazis, it just means they're not celebrating the Nazis.

If you don't believe in universal morality, then what gives you the right to make an assessment to label any historical figure a 'villain'?

[Manabomb]

Yep time to remove those MLK statues too then. He was also a traitor at the time.

Yeah. MLK is in the same vein as southern nationalists (I mean rebels, cough cough) looking to own people for profit.

Your bias is showing.

[Machismo]

now we just need to give them the ISIS treatment, as they are terrorists

All of them?

Does that mean we can do the same for all white nationalists?

[Travis B]

sure, so should any MLK monument then, as at the time, he was a law breaking traitor.

When did MLK try to secede from the union?

[Bullettime]

If you don't believe in universal morality, then what gives you the right to make an assessment to label any historical figure a 'villain'?

Seceding from the country and leading an army intent on taking over and killing Americans so you can own people isn't exactly a morally grey area.

[Darkeon]

But you are aware it was a nazi, white supremacist, white nationalist race rally where a series of domestic terrorist attacks were carried out against the residents of the town?

Just pointing that out, incase you want to try and backstep again.

Back step from what? Again - I'll need some proof of what you are claiming.

Most of my activity in this thread was banter with Elba over a "Bash the Fash" picture - or pointing out the double standards at how this situation has been dealt in comparison to other terror attacks.

If you can't engage in civilized conversation without labeling people Nazi or Nazi sympathizer... I feel sorry for you, mate.

[Glorious Leader]

This is a fundamentally ridiculous argument.

There is no "erasing of history". Nobody is trying to claim the American Civil War didn't happen. Removing these statues puts an end to a practice of celebrating the villains of history, of applauding the actions and ideology of one of the darkest chapters of American history.

Berlin doesn't have a statue of Adolf Hitler in their main square. That doesn't mean they're trying to forget the Nazis, it just means they're not celebrating the Nazis.

Thats presming one finds these people to be villains. I suspect youll find they dont and to be fair lincoln and the north are in part to blame for this. The peace that was reached after the war involved alot of white washing for the south.

[Doctor Amadeus]

Can we just start laughing at the absurd false equivalency between thuggery and vandalism on the left and this act of Alt-Right Terrorism?

There isn't any equivalency. The former exhibits behavior typical of a mob or vandals. The latter is now squarely adopting an ISIS-style means of attack.

The Alt-Right that doesn't kill people and is now finger pointing at the left, which includes people on this very board, are no different than the Islamists who, after an ISIS terrorist drives a truck through a crowd, start talking about the American bombing of Afghanistan, or the Israeli occupation of Palestine, and things of that nature. THey are cut from EXACTLY the same cloth.

Stop dignifying these clowns. They're far closer to these guys


Than they are your everyday American, left right or center.

Yep a hell of a lot more terrifying than some confused kid in skinny jeans.

[Deleted]

Still with this "they had it coming" drivel?

More like "are anyone really surprised" drivel.

Ayman Al Zawahiri called. He want's his justification for politically motivated terrorism back.

You and the leader of Al Qaeda are kindreds today Halloaa. You made EXACTLY the type of argument they have made for Islamic jihadism for 30 years.

You are one of the best trolls on this site

[Jeezy911]

Being fascist to fascist ideologies is actually quite effective, if you grew a brain or two.

You have no idea what fascism really is but call others stupid. It's pretty funny.

[Enthusiastic Steward]

yes, i agree with them on that matter. the city removing it was fucking retarded.

And you can feel that way all you want, but at the end of the day it was the city's statue and the city's decision, and however anyone else feels about it is irrelevant.

he was a law breaking traitor.

Traitor how?