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  1. #1221
    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksej89 View Post
    There is no specific "he can fire you for being racist but not for other reasons" legal clause.
    The boss can fire you for ANY or NO reasons.
    It can even be that the boss is racist and you are not - and he wants to get rid of you because of that.

    Unlimited power for anybody is only good for the side that gets that unlimited power.

    In poor countries unlimited employer/tycoon power makes him the boss of your life, because rich people like him are also the ones who are using corrupted politicians/judges/police/military to keep the country in a sh*thole.

    Your logic only partly works if the country is actually functioning as it is ideally supposed to - and even then it is a censorship of speech.

    If you apply your ideas to poor countries you get the worst imaginable depravity and abuse of power with more daily suffering than developed countries have seen in decades.
    Great, an employer can fire you for any reason he wants. That's freedom. Should you be limited as to why you can quit a job? Do you think you should be forced to work for an employer, or should you be able to quit a job if you don't like your boss?
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  2. #1222
    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    Wrong. The first step to dictatorship and authoritarianism are Nazi-marches.
    Well actually the second, the first one would be them gathering online.
    Nonsense. We allow them, for example, and while I do believe we dropped from being the most democratic country in the world (unsure), we're still at the very least number 2 on that list. And why would we disallow their demonstrations, and no others? They aren't even the most violent, nor the biggest security threat (extreme left wing takes both those awards), even though they obviously follow a disgusting ideology (not alone in that respect either, mind you).

    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    Clearly most countries do.
    Really, now? Source on that?

  3. #1223
    Quote Originally Posted by Illana View Post
    Not everyone in that rally was a Nazi, I know you have stated you know this but it really seems you're are collectivising these people just as the left do in order to justify their actions.

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    So with antifa siding behind people like Maduro and Chavez and Guevara, they are guilty by association of the horrors of socialism?
    Are you getting a kick out of inaccurate comparisons?

  4. #1224
    Quote Originally Posted by Jakexe View Post
    Just imagine if the counter-protesters were the alt-right and the main rally was for Isis supporters. Same events carry out and i'm just sure all the alt-right would be defending the Islamists right to not be fired.

    The alt-rights integrity (lol) is in shreds, you people are a joke, you've devolved to Isis standards. Shameful.
    so these guys are to you what ISIS is to the world? okay

  5. #1225
    Quote Originally Posted by Defect View Post
    he can be a white supremacist all he wants aslong he does his job. Same applies those black supremacist and la raza people, they can have all the pride in their race and think of themselves superior aslong they do their job without polluting it with their ideals there is not reason to fire them, the fact that these guys are getting fire now clearly indicates that before being outted nobody knew their ideals so they were doing a good job by keeping their job separated from their political views.
    So, murdering a person, it's totally her fault.

    Being a white supremacist... that's fine.

    Your logic is idiotic, and you are clearly trolling.

    let me know when you stop cheering on murder, then we can chat.

  6. #1226
    Quote Originally Posted by Defect View Post
    so these guys are to you what ISIS is to the world? okay
    You're reading comprehension is terrible.

  7. #1227
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    So, murdering a person, it's totally her fault.

    Being a white supremacist... that's fine.

    Your logic is idiotic, and you are clearly trolling.

    let me know when you stop cheering on murder, then we can chat.
    you dont have arguments left, I accept your concession.

  8. #1228
    Quote Originally Posted by Defect View Post
    ah they should starve to death? spotted the gulag lover.
    Funny coming from a guy who said the woman who died should have moved.

  9. #1229
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    The government is coming for them?
    I can tell you're an educated person.

  10. #1230
    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    Is it time to remind everyone you support a terrorist attack on innocent US citizens?


    "contrary opinions"
    Someone clearly doesn't know what a Nazi is.
    a car accident is hardly a terrorist strike, please try again.

  11. #1231
    Quote Originally Posted by Illana View Post
    Not everyone in that rally was a Nazi, I know you have stated you know this but it really seems you're are collectivising these people just as the left do in order to justify their actions.

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    So with antifa siding behind people like Maduro and Chavez and Guevara, they are guilty by association of the horrors of socialism?
    Not all of them were neo-Nazis, but being around neo-Nazis at a rally clearly was not a deal breaker. Do you know what I would do if I found myself surrounded by white supremacists? I leave, and denounce their message.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defect View Post
    a car accident is hardly a terrorist strike, please try again.
    The United States government is treating it as possible terrorism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defect View Post
    you dont have arguments left, I accept your concession.
    Let me know when you stop cheering on murder, then we can chat.

  12. #1232
    Quote Originally Posted by niil945 View Post
    Funny coming from a guy who said the woman who died should have moved.
    yeh dont stand in the middle of the road, its a choice while being sent to a gulag for having problematic views is not.

  13. #1233
    Quote Originally Posted by Defect View Post
    a car accident is hardly a terrorist strike, please try again.
    Bet you had a different opinion about Nizza and Berlin.

  14. #1234
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Not all of them were neo-Nazis, but being around neo-Nazis at a rally clearly was not a deal breaker. Do you know what I would do if I found myself surrounded by white supremacists? I leave, and denounce their message.

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    The United States government is treating it as possible terrorism.

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    Let me know when you stop cheering on murder, then we can chat.
    you already cheer on murder by being a communist my friend, like I said if you wanna step out I gladly accept your concession.

  15. #1235
    Quote Originally Posted by Defect View Post
    a car accident is hardly a terrorist strike, please try again.
    And here you went one bridge too far and outed yourself as nothing but a troll.

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    Fun fact: Antifa speech is one of the cornerstones of Maduro's regime. He labels opponents as a fascist to legitimize violence against them, and his militias readily attends.

    Just in the last 100 days, more than 100 "fascists" were killed in Venezuela.

    I know, this topic is about USA, not Venezuela. But my point is that you cant let far left determines what or who is a fascist or not.

    Yeah, the guy that killed the woman is a nazi, but it does not give antifas the right to label whoever they want as nazi.

  17. #1237
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    Business refuses to bake a cake for a gay couple = freedom of speech.

    Business refuses to hire white supremacist = discrimination.

    Sometimes you have to wonder if those on the right have any sense of consistency in their outrage or, as becomes more obvious by the day, that they just make it up as they go along.

  18. #1238
    Quote Originally Posted by Defect View Post
    you already cheer on murder by being a communist my friend, like I said if you wanna step out I gladly accept your concession.
    I'm not a communist.

    Let me know when you stop cheering on murder, then we can chat.

  19. #1239
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    great, an employer can fire you for any reason he wants. That's freedom. Should you be limited as to why you can quit a job? Do you think you should be forced to work for an employer, or should you be able to quit a job if you don't like your boss?
    This is absurd.
    I am telling you how your ideas in poor countries result in families being starved and abused to the bone - and your retort is "quit if you don't like your boss".

    Obviously we are talking on different levels here, if you have any work experience at all.
    In my country people work two 8-hour jobs a day 6 days a week just to delay starvation for their families (on a comfy 4-5 hour sleep per day schedule).

    In your country it seems you can splash that "disposable income" on a new iphone every year and then quit because your boss isn't to your liking, because a new job is just around the corner...
    Or enjoy that social security that will cover you for a few months if you lose your job, cause the country is actually functioning properly.

  20. #1240
    Quote Originally Posted by Defect View Post
    yeh dont stand in the middle of the road, its a choice while being sent to a gulag for having problematic views is not.
    The guy drove through the crowd and then reversed in order to try to run over those he'd injured. Holy fuck, get real with defending a terrorist attack.

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