Neo Nazis losing jobs after being publicly outed

[Zervek]

No, they aren't. I and others have explained this to you multiple times by now, and at this point I'm pretty sure that you're intentionally conflating white supremacy with 'being proud of who they are.'

I still don't understand how any of this is white supremacy. None of the people at the rally is calling for death for colored people. No one wants for them to leave the country. It seems that a lot of you people think white pride is synonymous with supremacy.

[Zecora]

I defend anyone's right to say what they want as long as they don't hurt someone (as in stalking, threatening, violence, hurt in the "feels" for wrong opinions does not apply) while you're a fake as shit liberal (regressive authoritarian left).

No, see that's now hot it works. When you make excuses for someone, that makes you an apologist for them. In this case, you claim "The Left" is to blame for the violence of these shitstains, which makes you a Nazi apologist.

And I'm not a "liberal", they are right-wingers compared to me.

[Ripster42]

Stop shitposting same nonsense and look at photos in article. He's not in uniform, he's not wearing swastika, no mention of Jews or killing.

He's an employee of a company who was at a white supremacist rally. That company rightfully doesn't want to be associated with white supremacists. Nazis deserve to be discriminated against in every legal way. Not hiring them, and not retaining their employment, is a legal way. There is a literal fundamental difference between ideologies that are based on intolerance/ethnic cleansing and those that aren't. It's okay to not tolerate ideologies that are based upon intolerance/ethnic cleansing. Intolerance itself isn't wrong. It's what you're being intolerant towards. You're literally defending people who support ethnic cleansing.

[Zecora]

Zebra broneys definition of someone who stands up against political violence: "LITERALLY HITLER!!!!"

Nice strawman, build it out of your own shit too I see.

My definition of someone who makes excuses and apologies for the actions of Nazi's: Nazi apologist.

[Garnier Fructis]

I still don't understand how any of this is white supremacy. None of the people at the rally is calling for death for colored people. No one wants for them to leave the country. It seems that a lot of you people think white pride is synonymous with supremacy.

The rally was openly attended by white supremacists and nazis, dude.

[zhero]

No that is not a fair characterization, and why they make being proud of being white is a problem.

They have taken "White Pride", and made it synonymous with the KKK and hate groups. They honestly believe in the Nazi rhetoric of white supremacy and tied that to white pride. They aren't being punished because of white pride as much as they are being punished for their belief that white people are inherently better than everyone else.

Black Pride, Gay Pride, etc don't do it because they belief they are better, but they shouldn't feel ashamed or lesser of a person for who they are. There was never a time in western society that being white was a barrier for advancement in society, or that you could be persecuted because of the color of your skin. White people were never taught being white is bad and they should feel bad. That is false rhetoric that doesn't exist anywhere in society. It's a make believe phantom that simply isn't true.

so what you are saying is that non-hate groups need to take back "white pride" from groups like the KKK.

[Ripster42]

You are assuming too much. Just because someone at Twitter labeled him Nazi, doesn't make him Nazi. His side of story is in article, far below headline, with bunch of unrelated stuff to justify clickbaity headline.

He's at a white supremacist rally. It's not really much of an assumption. And the treatment for white supremacists should be the same nazis get.

[Bullettime]

I'll admit that I've been involved in helping groups in UVA find and report these people.

You have the right to peaceful assembly under our First Amendment. You're not allowed the right to violent assembly nor are you shielded from public backlash for your views. You're only protected from the government.

As a Virginian who saw the mess first hand and got the hell out before the keg exploded, these assholes shit on their First Amendment rights. They had no intention of peaceful protest and tried to stir trouble from the moment they arrived. It wasn't Antifa or BLM there antagonizing them. If anything, Antifa and BLM were acting as pseudo peacekeepers this time, were kept away from the main rally by police officers just to avoid issues, had extremely small numbers, and spent most of their time getting these lunatics to leave bystanders alone or were getting into fist fights with them outside of businesses for the antics they were pulling.

These protesters chose to show up in riot gear and military weapons. They chose to show up and march on UVA and attack UVA students and groups on campus ILLEGALLY. They chose to throw cups of piss on innocent minorities. They chose to attack and harass people and journalists for not joining their rallies. They chose to attack police and counter protesters when the city told them "enough is enough" and to get lost.

[Garnier Fructis]

so what you are saying is that non-hate groups need to take back "white pride" from groups like the KKK.

Basically. And a good start would be for people who are supposedly not racist to stop defending them with such zeal, as has happened for 80+ pages now.

[Illuminance]

These protesters chose to show up in riot gear and military weapons. They chose to show up and march on UVA and attack UVA students and groups on campus. They chose to throw cups of piss on innocent minorities. They chose to attack and harass people and journalists for not joining their rallies. They chose to attack police and counter protesters when the city told them "enough is enough" and to get lost.

For the sake of being fair and balanced, what did the counter protesters choose to do? Or are we supposed to be naive enough to think that the feral elements of the left at that rally weren't also looking for violence?

[Bullettime]

For the sake of being fair and balanced, what did the counter protesters choose to do? Or are we supposed to be naive enough to think that the feral elements of the left at that rally weren't also looking for violence?

You know who was there counter protesting? Virginians. Every day Virginians from the local area and nearby towns banded together and were largely acting as peaceful protesters. Despite what Fox News and Breitbart want to spin it as, Antifa and BLM were a total non factor this time.

Things escalated to violence when the protesters began attacking people on a college campus, attacking people leaving businesses, harassing bystanders, etc. It then exploded later on when the city said enough was enough.

[Fojos]

No, see that's now hot it works. When you make excuses for someone, that makes you an apologist for them. In this case, you claim "The Left" is to blame for the violence of these shitstains, which makes you a Nazi apologist.

And I'm not a "liberal", they are right-wingers compared to me.

So you don't even deny being authoritarian left. Are you even left of socialist?

What violence? The people in the article didn't commit any violence, Antifa members and one supremacist did.

Ahh. So you're one of antifa, no wonder. And you talk about violence.

[Zecora]

Oh, hi mr Broney. Actually, I'm not the one hung up in the names and labels, you guys are.

A-hah.

Actually, I'm not the one hung up in the names and labels, you guys are.

Is that so.

Oh, hi mr Broney.

Riiiight...

I stated the socialist polices, which none of you have refuted, rather you have tried to ridicule me and put me in a booth.

Those are refuted every day. But since you obviously do not actually read them, here's a quick digest: The Socialism part of the Nazi party comes from the origins, in the NSDP. Post '34, the Nazi's went after any socialist they could get their hands on. You think jews were the only one gassed? Communists and socialists were there as well. Here, have a couple quotes from Hitler: "I absolutely insist on protecting private property ... we must encourage private initiative". "Our adopted term 'Socialist' has nothing to do with Marxist Socialism. Marxism is anti-property; true Socialism is not."

...Oooh, how socialist of him.

Which is fine really, you are only making yourself look like petty idiots. And why would I be afraid to admit what political leaning I have on this liberal forum?

"I use my time defending Nazi's and claiming they were actually socialists, but really guys, it's okay, because I vote for the Left!"

Yeah. Pull the other one, it's got bells on.

[Fojos]

And Nazism really doesn't trigger at least some red flags for you? Sigh, pathetic.
But I get it.. Gassing Jews doesn't "hurt" them, right?

It does. We still shouldn't ban views. Communists/marxists and Nazis are both the same kind of shit but I rarely hear anyone say we should ban the previous thoughts.

Or liberals with a capitalist mindset? If we listen to arabs the liberal capitalist agenda has killed far more in their regions than nazis killed jews.

[Bullettime]

It does. We still shouldn't ban views. Communists/marxists and Nazis are both the same kind of shit but I rarely hear anyone say we should ban the previous thoughts.

Or liberals with a capitalist mindset? If we listen to arabs the liberal capitalist agenda has killed far more in their regions than nazis killed jews.

Private entities can ban whatever the fuck they want. Your First Amendment right only protects your speech from the government.

The government can allow hate speech if they want to but if private businesses and citizens don't condone it, well tough shit. People on the right had no problem saying "well businesses and private people can do what they want!" when it came to arguing about being able to discriminate against LGBTs but suddenly it's so wrong when it's white people on the receiving end?

[Zecora]

So you don't even deny being authoritarian left. Are you even left of socialist?

I'm more on the libertarian than authoritarian side of the horizontal axis, so you ar wrong as usual. Keep tilting at those windmills.
"Socialist" is a wide label. It barely overlaps what you refer to as "liberals".

What violence? The people in the article didn't commit any violence, Antifa members and one supremacist did.

The people in the article participated in a Nazi gathering where they rioted, threw cups of piss at the locals, and threatened to "burn down the place and gas them" at shops and restaurants that had mnon-whites inside. These are the people YOU defend.

Ahh. So you're one of antifa, no wonder. And you talk about violence.

No, I am not. But I see you also build strawmen out of shit.

[Fojos]

Private entities can ban whatever the fuck they want. Your First Amendment right only protects your speech from the government.

The government can allow hate speech if they want to but if private businesses and citizens don't condone it, well tough shit. People on the right had no problem saying "well businesses and private people can do what they want!" when it came to arguing about being able to discriminate against LGBTs but suddenly it's so wrong when it's white people on the receiving end?

I don't see the problem of companies deciding to do what they want if they know the person was there. The issue lies with social justice stalkers who directly contact people and threaten people who have other opinions. They're the same as the scum you find on 4chan.

[Bullettime]

I don't see the problem of companies deciding to do what they want if they know the person was there. The issue lies with social justice stalkers who directly contact people and threaten people who have other opinions. They're the same as the scum you find on 4chan.

Private citizens using the tools legally at their disposal.

Most companies already have policies about what you are and aren't allowed to do while hired and hate rallies are funny enough part of that. If they don't want their employer finding out they want to a hate rally, don't go to the fucking rally.

edit: It's in your fucking hiring paperwork and contract.

[Fojos]

I'm more on the libertarian than authoritarian side of the horizontal axis, so you ar wrong as usual. Keep tilting at those windmills.
"Socialist" is a wide label. It barely overlaps what you refer to as "liberals".



The people in the article participated in a Nazi gathering where they rioted, threw cups of piss at the locals, and threatened to "burn down the place and gas them" at shops and restaurants that had mnon-whites inside. These are the people YOU defend.



No, I am not. But I see you also build strawmen out of shit.

You're not on the libertarian side if you consider liberals right compared to you. Going more left means you don't mind limiting free will for more social cohesion. E.g. socialism.

[Montanahax]

Not everyone is a nazi who is proud of being white, or proud of his heritage.
But I see you are thoroughly brainwashed that you consider every white people who's not full of white guilt and self hate as nazis straight from '40s Germany.

Did you not see the walking around with the Nazi flag on their shoulders? Doin the nazi salute! Yelling Heil Trump!
If that's not Nazi what is?