Alleria will obviously join the Horde.

[The Iron Fist]

one sunreaver, being used by garrosh.

they didn't stop to find out the truth behind it, jaina flew into a rage and the silver covenant was unleashed and they went to murdering civilians.

that is betrayal.

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oh, there's also the fact that kael was a member of the council of six, and not a single other member of the council did anything to stop garithos. that is betrayal.

One Sunreaver? Maybe you should L2Lore. Even the leader of the Sunreavers (Aethas, if memory serves) admits he made the mistake of supporting Garrosh during the Fire Mage questline for Felo'melorn. All the Sunreavers backed Garrosh.

Yep. Blood Elf Horde fanboy justifying unjustifiable things. Nothing to see here, folks.

[Traveler Voltin]

The Sunreavers betrayed the Kirin Tor, not the other way around (see: Mana Bomb). Garithos is one man and does not equal the whole of the Alliance. Dalaran was part of the Alliance and Garithos was the leader of the army -- as if they had a choice. Kael'thas betrayed his people also, mind you. Your argument is weak.

...Someone is a Horde fanboy who clearly plays a Blood Elf...

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Keep in mind her husband was leader of the Alliance Expedition into Draenor before they chased Ner'zhul through portals off the planet before it shattered into Outland...

They were never married.
Also turalyon is neutral now

[Reza2001]

Why would a high elf join the Horde it's full of races she hates

She only hates Orcs (for obvious reasons) , Let's go to the other races of the Horde :
Forsaken : Undeads who their leader is her sister ... Don't think she likes that , but she'll get along with it
Blood elves : Former High Elves , Of course she would like them , She should feel miserable for abandoning her people and her sisters to the Scourge for some "Army of the Light" shit
Trolls : Blood elves got along with trolls , Of course this are not the "forest trolls" they fight before , So she wouldn't hate nor like them
Pandareans : She has never seen one in her entire life
Taurens : Again She has never seen one in her entire life

[elbleuet]

They were never married.
Also turalyon is neutral now

Turalyon is an Alliance character willing to work with Horde savages because he puts Azeroth's survival above all.

She only hates Orcs (for obvious reasons) , Let's go to the other races of the Horde :
Forsaken : Undeads who their leader is her sister ... Don't think she likes that , but she'll get along with it
Blood elves : Former High Elves , Of course she would like them , She should feel miserable for abandoning her people and her sisters to the Scourge for some "Army of the Light" shit
Trolls : Blood elves got along with trolls , Of course this are not the "forest trolls" they fight before , So she wouldn't hate nor like them
Pandareans : She has never seen one in her entire life
Taurens : Again She has never seen one in her entire life

Nice try.
But Alleria is just racist, and just despite the Horde for historical but also cultural reasons.
Blood elves are Horde. High elves are Alliance. Alleria's high elf and will remain so.

[Jademist]

She only hates Orcs (for obvious reasons) , Let's go to the other races of the Horde :
Forsaken : Undeads who their leader is her sister ... Don't think she likes that , but she'll get along with it
Blood elves : Former High Elves , Of course she would like them , She should feel miserable for abandoning her people and her sisters to the Scourge for some "Army of the Light" shit
Trolls : Blood elves got along with trolls , Of course this are not the "forest trolls" they fight before , So she wouldn't hate nor like them
Pandareans : She has never seen one in her entire life
Taurens : Again She has never seen one in her entire life

But her son and husband and one of her sisters are still with the Alliance. I doubt she'd abandon them just because she gets cozy with some Horde races, if she ever does.

[Traveler Voltin]

Alleria lost her shit over a few orcs killing high elves.
What do you think will happen when she learns what arthas did?

You so called alliance fans don't know jack shit about alleria like you think you do.

[Zyky]

It's possible, but it's also possible they'll open up cross faction of some kind next expansion in which case she would probably be more neutral. Having ties to the Alliance in form of her husband and a sister and ties to the Horde being another sister and her faction of elves(who will tell her all about how the Horde and specifically Undead have been a helpful ally when the Alliance abandoned them).

[CaptainV]

Alleria lost her shit over a few orcs killing high elves.
What do you think will happen when she learns what arthas did?

You so called alliance fans don't know jack shit about alleria like you think you do.

Arthas was part of the scourge, he was more or less undead at the time, soulless.

If anything she will have even more hatred towards the Forsaken than anyone else.

[Jademist]

Alleria lost her shit over a few orcs killing high elves.
What do you think will happen when she learns what arthas did?

You so called alliance fans don't know jack shit about alleria like you think you do.

Because Arthas was Alliance during that time? No. He was the leading the efforts of the Lich King and the Scourge. Also, again, her husband and son and one of her sisters are still with the Alliance, alongside, y'know, High Elves, the race she desperately wanted to defend and serve.

[Friendlyimmolation]

Vereesa's screws are more loose then syvlanas's?
She is raising undead
Admits there is nothing different between her and the lich king
tried to enslave a race that was going to help us fight the legion
made a deal with a minion of an old god
when is the rest of the horde gunna kick her out for being the war chief, and ditching her people to go chase after who were suppose to be our allies, and force them into enslavement using an item she got from making a deal with a minion of the old gods....

Sylvanas raising undead doesn't make her insane.

She was being sarcastic with Garrosh, down to a salute, hence Garrosh calling her a bitch.

The race at that point in time was not helping us fight the legion , it was having feasts in the halls of valor, and trying to kill little girls because their father was a bad guy.

And to finish it off Helya never served the old gods, she indirectly helped them by imprisoning Odyn, but she never served them.


Vereesa forgot she had children, and wanted to rule the world with Sylvanas in Undercity. Her character acted illogical before 90% of her character (rhonin) was killed off

when I say screws loose, I mean insane, and Vereesa out of all the windrunners has always been portrayed as the least sane.

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One Sunreaver? Maybe you should L2Lore. Even the leader of the Sunreavers (Aethas, if memory serves) admits he made the mistake of supporting Garrosh during the Fire Mage questline for Felo'melorn. All the Sunreavers backed Garrosh.

Yep. Blood Elf Horde fanboy justifying unjustifiable things. Nothing to see here, folks.

He never supported Garrosh, he was forced under threat of death (not of himself but of any blood elf Garrosh could get his hands on) to keep silent after he walked in on the bell being stolen. Hardly supporting the theft.

But of course the Sunreavers are going to support Garrosh after Jaina and the SC starts killing them, especially with literally all but 2 of them ,Aethas and Falynr, knew nothing about what was happening.

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Turalyon is an Alliance character willing to work with Horde savages because he puts Azeroth's survival above all.


Nice try.
But Alleria is just racist, and just despite the Horde for historical but also cultural reasons.
Blood elves are Horde. High elves are Alliance. Alleria's high elf and will remain so.

She wasn't around when the high elves had their split. And Alleria doesn't fit into the "high elf" category anymore because of her choices. She's passed what even the blood elves did, so she is a high elf the way blood elves are high elves. they are all the same race.


Before anyone tries to jump me with anger, I'm not arguing that Alleria would be Horde. In my belief she will be neutral with literally over 90% of her remaining people on the Horde, including her former best friend leading them, and her now undead sister.

[Zephre]

No she won't and hopefully she'll slink the fuck away to be buried with the other Windrunner sisters especially that knakk creation Veressa.

[Traveler Voltin]

Blizzard cant remember their own lore.

Alleria has naturally green eyes
And she let go of her rage in a book.
Guess what blizzard doesn't remember that based on the ptr shit

[Al Gorefiend]

I just wanna know why anyone actually gives a shit which faction yet another elf archer goes to.

[Jademist]

Blizzard cant remember their own lore.

Alleria has naturally green eyes
And she let go of her rage in a book.
Guess what blizzard doesn't remember that based on the ptr shit

Alleria has green eyes, yes, but not like the way Blood Elves have green eyes. Their eyes glow green because of their whole deal with the fel. In the novels, elves are described as having different normal colored eyes much like humans (blue, green, brown, etc.). They glow blue and green in the game to distinguish high elves from blood elves. But her green eyes have nothing to do with the way Blood Elves' eyes glow green.

SOURCE: Tides of Darkness describes high elven eye colors.

[Astalnar]

That has got to be the most lolworthy lorepost in a good while. Alleria HATED orcs. The Horde decimated her family and she hunted them like rats, in her own words.
The only reason I'd say she's working alongside the Horde now is because The Brotherhood of the Light needs both the Alliance and the Horde to defeat the Legion on Argus.

Alliance acting traitorous lately? Name one act.

Only traitor in the Alliance worth noting would be Jaina deserting the Kirin Tor/Alliance at the start of the Legion Invasion. That's it.

Alleria would sooner abandon Sylvanas and join Vereesa than ally herself with the Horde.

Let's look at it from the Blood Elves' POV:
1. Arthas razed their kingdom to the ground.
2. Garithos sentenced Prince Kael'thas and his forces to death for accepting the assistance of Naga in fight against the scourge.
3. That whole thing with the Night Elves and that Dwarf from the start of Burning Crusade who wanted to sabotage/steal tech from Blood Elves in Quel'thalas.
4. Jaina's purge of Dalaran

On one hand you have a group that was from the get-go openly hostile to you, but time and circumstances made you allies. On the other, you have a group that was supposed to be your closest ally, and then in your most dire hour of need left you for dead, after betraying you first.

Personally, I think Alleria will stay neutral. But if push came to shove, she'd stand with her people. And her people stand with Horde, not the Alliance these days. Her main motivator up until she entered the Dark Portal was always for her people. If Alliance has that ragtag group of Highelven stragglers that is a pittance in comparison to majority of the blood elves. And it's too easy to play her if she decides to join the Alliance. Sylvanas would never let her live it down. "Slaughtering your own people, worse then even the savagest of orcs."

I think this is the most important detail that we tend to forget or ignore. Alleria wouldn't just be picking between sisters. She'd have to pick to either side with her people or against them. A life in exile, or return to homeland. That decision might sit well with Vereesa, but let's not presume Alleria would do the same.

[Jademist]

Let's look at it from the Blood Elves' POV:
1. Arthas razed their kingdom to the ground.
2. Garithos sentenced Prince Kael'thas and his forces to death for accepting the assistance of Naga in fight against the scourge.
3. That whole thing with the Night Elves and that Dwarf from the start of Burning Crusade who wanted to sabotage/steal tech from Blood Elves in Quel'thalas.
4. Jaina's purge of Dalaran

On one hand you have a group that was from the get-go openly hostile to you, but time and circumstances made you allies. On the other, you have a group that was supposed to be your closest ally, and then in your most dire hour of need left you for dead, after betraying you first.

Personally, I think Alleria will stay neutral. But if push came to shove, she'd stand with her people. And her people stand with Horde, not the Alliance these days. Her main motivator up until she entered the Dark Portal was always for her people. If Alliance has that ragtag group of Highelven stragglers that is a pittance in comparison to majority of the blood elves. And it's too easy to play her if she decides to join the Alliance. Sylvanas would never let her live it down. "Slaughtering your own people, worse then even the savagest of orcs."

I think this is the most important detail that we tend to forget or ignore. Alleria wouldn't just be picking between sisters. She'd have to pick to either side with her people or against them. A life in exile, or return to homeland. That decision might sit well with Vereesa, but let's not presume Alleria would do the same.

"Her people" are the High Elves, not Blood Elves. Why do people keep forgetting this? There's still a distinction between the High and Blood Elves. Not all High Elves turned into Blood Elves (hello, the Silver Covenant).

There are still High Elves in the ranks of the Alliance. You also forget that her son and husband stand with the Alliance (Although Turalyon can probably considered more neutral since he is with the Army of Light moreso than the Alliance -- his main prerogative being the downfall of the Legion...but with the Legion's demise I don't doubt he will return to the Alliance).

And can we stop bringing Arthas' destruction of Silvermoon in to this? He was working for the Scourge at the time, not the Alliance.

[Evangeliste]

Alleria will be neutral. Her self-imposed affliction will carry a really heavy weight on both factions.

[Friendlyimmolation]

"Her people" are the High Elves, not Blood Elves. Why do people keep forgetting this? There's still a distinction between the High and Blood Elves. Not all High Elves turned into Blood Elves (hello, the Silver Covenant).

There are still High Elves in the ranks of the Alliance. You also forget that her son and husband stand with the Alliance (Although Turalyon can probably considered more neutral since he is with the Army of Light moreso than the Alliance -- his main prerogative being the downfall of the Legion...but with the Legion's demise I don't doubt he will return to the Alliance).

And can we stop bringing Arthas' destruction of Silvermoon in to this? He was working for the Scourge at the time, not the Alliance.

Alleria is neither a high elf by current "high elf" standards, and obviously not a blood elf.

The high elves in the ranks of the alliance are literally so rare they are like a ghost in wow lore. Their biggest and only military force is the silver covenant, which is a small militant faction. Her people, as in more than one fragment of a group, are the ones she fought beside (like lorthemar) If she isn't obviously told any of this she will still consider herself a high elf, but she's not going to turn her back on the blood elves.

And can we stop brining Arthas' destruction of Silvermoon in to this?

None of the Windrunners are rational in their hatreds, its their binding trait.

and the disdain of the alliance by Alleria if it occurred, would be learning about Garithos, not arthas , or it might. Again, windrunners are all fucking psycho when it comes to hatred.

[Jademist]

Alleria is neither a high elf by current "high elf" standards, and obviously not a blood elf.

The high elves in the ranks of the alliance are literally so rare they are like a ghost in wow lore. Their biggest and only military force is the silver covenant, which is a small militant faction. Her people, as in more than one fragment of a group, are the ones she fought beside (like lorthemar) If she isn't obviously told any of this she will still consider herself a high elf, but she's not going to turn her back on the blood elves.



None of the Windrunners are rational in their hatreds, its their binding trait.

and the disdain of the alliance by Alleria if it occurred, would be learning about Garithos, not arthas , or it might. Again, windrunners are all fucking psycho when it comes to hatred.

1.) I like your handle.
2.) Alleria did cool off in Tides of Darkness. I still don't think she's going to join the Horde just because the Blood Elves are there. Honestly I'm more on the neutral side too seeing as Turalyon will probably stay neutral in all honesty and they're an item or whatever.

[Friendlyimmolation]

1.) I like your handle.
2.) Alleria did cool off in Tides of Darkness. I still don't think she's going to join the Horde just because the Blood Elves are there. Honestly I'm more on the neutral side too seeing as Turalyon will probably stay neutral in all honesty and they're an item or whatever.

Just to double confirm, I never argued Alleria would be Horde.

edit: spelling.