Trumps blames "alt left" for Charlottesville and "very fine people" on both sides.

[Jeezy911]

Not necessarily. But if you openly stand and rally next to one, you're complicit.

Oh so it's who you stand next to? I stood next to a Antifa guy once.

[Travis B]

So everyone that showed up for the rally's were Nazis?

Good point. Some of them were KKK members too. Thank you for pointing that out Jeezy.

[Jeezy911]

The Alt-Right are Nazis. They're Nazis dressed in a veneer of euphemism.

What if you were just a constitutional conservative hanging out to see whats up? Nazi?

[Xeones]

Does "alt-" inherently refer to bad people and extremists? If so then there is an alt-left just as there is an alt-right. Neither side is so special that they cant be compared or be placed on a spectrum.

I mean the problem is when you say "alt-left" no one knows what you're talking about.

The alt-right is a term coined and defined by the alt-right. That Milo whatever guy on brietbart was one of the guys to define it and even put up an article for the definition.

On the other hand there is no "alt-left". No one has coined it, no one has defined it. The right wingers try using it as a desperate attempt to try saying "they just as bad!" but the problem is no one really knows what you're talking about. I can guess you're talking about the sort of people "did you just assume my gender" meme was made for but I have no clue. Since it is a group that doesn't exist and a term that has no definition.

[Bullettime]

Basically, if you're not a Nazi and went to the whole thing for some supposed non hate history pride bullshit and you didn't turn tail or were appalled by the ones preaching hate, you're still complicit.

At that point, you openly considered it worse for a statue to come down than to stand side by side with people preaching ethnic cleansing.

[Orbitus]

So everyone that showed up for the rally's were Nazis?

Neo-Nazis, Alt-Right, White Supremacists, KKK, pretty much all the same.

[Shadowmelded]

Good point. Some of them were KKK members too. Thank you for pointing that out Jeezy.

Don't forget the neo-confederates.

I mean who sees this poster with nazi imagery and thinks "Oh yeah, this will be a pleasant and peaceful gathering"

[Jeezy911]

Good point. Some of them were KKK members too. Thank you for pointing that out Jeezy.

I don't think you realize how dumb your argument sounds, desperately trying to make the connection that all Trump supporters are Nazis.

[draynay]

I mean the problem is when you say "alt-left" no one knows what you're talking about.

I would hope they recognize that you're conjuring a librul boogeyman to avoid having to talk about the actual problem. At least in the context Trump said it.

[Xeones]

So everyone that showed up for the rally's were Nazis?

The people who showed up for "Unite the right"? Yea Nazis, KKK, and whatever various terms for white supremacists you would like.

[Skroe]

THIS JUST IN from the desk of David Duke.



He speaks exactly like our MMO-OT Alt-Right posters. Exactly.

For those actually paying attention, one again, at the rally the other day he didn't talk about "Jews" or "Niggers". He kept saying one phrase and one phrase alone:

"Radical Leftists"

Because he knows those teen and 20 something losers who identify with the alt-right are gullible enough to be drawn to White Nationalism under a veneer of "fighting BLM/Antifa"

[Grapemask]

George Soros could have personally hired every single person that came in and riled up the Nazis. He could have paid some people to claim be Nazis and stir up the real Nazis. They all could have been reading scripts off of Hillary Clinton's emails, printed out in a scuzzy pizza place's child sex ring, where the sauce has been formulated to turn the frogs gay and the topping of the day is nothingburger.

And you know what?

The alt-right nazis would still be responsible for the stupid shit the alt-right nazis did.

[Skroe]

What if you were just a constitutional conservative hanging out to see whats up? Nazi?

Any self-respecting Constitutional Conservative would have nothing to do with those people.

Yes. Nazi.

[Jeezy911]

Neo-Nazis, Alt-Right, White Supremacists, KKK, pretty much all the same.

So all the people who showed up for the women march in DC were Anti-fa then , got it. Reasonable argument.

[Bullettime]

I don't think you realize how dumb your argument sounds, desperately trying to make the connection that all Trump supporters are Nazis.

If you stand side by side and rally alongside someone preaching hatred, then you're no better.

Anyone who went to that rally for some "historical pride" shit and disagreed with hate speech should have turned and went home or joined the counter protest. They chose to stay and stand.

[Xeones]

What if you were just a constitutional conservative hanging out to see whats up? Nazi?

A constitutional conservative joining in the chants of "Blood and soil"? Yep, Nazi.

Reject them if you don't want to be part of it.

[DarkTZeratul]

So everyone that showed up for the rally's were Nazis?

The rally in Charlottesville was not a Trump Supporter rally. It was explicitly a white supremacy rally. Everyone there was some flavor of white supremacist (be it Nazi, KKK, etc) or, at the very best, willing to stand with white supremacists. There are not "many sides" to this issue. There's the people who (legally, it is true) rallied in the name of hatred, bigotry, and racism, and the people who protested against their hatred, bigotry, and racism. Trying to claim some sort of false equivalence will only serve to show that even if you yourself are not a Nazi or white supremacists, you are perfectly willing to stand with people who are so long as they are ostensibly on your side politically.

[draynay]

I don't think you realize how dumb your argument sounds, desperately trying to make the connection that all Trump supporters are Nazis.

What is the point of your speculation that maybe some of the rally attendants were just nazi-curious?

[Lenonis]

This showed up on my facebook feed and I thought it was interesting:

What I have read is first hand accounts from actual residents of Charlottesville through my friends, like this one:

"There seems to be a perception from people outside of Charlottesville that what is going on here is two opposing groups coming to town and fighting some ideological battle that has gotten messy. That is not what is happening here. What is happening here is that several hate groups from the extreme right have come together under the "unite the right" banner here in our town and basically started acting as terrorists. This may seem like an exaggeration but it's not.

A church service was held over because they had surrounded the building and police had to disperse them. People had to be escorted to their cars. My friend was there with her daughter. Everywhere they meet, businesses close. We had drive by shootings yesterday from a van marked kkk.

A car plowed into a huge group of people. I'm sure you saw that on the newsfeeds. What you probably didn't see is that some of those people were on their way back from helping to repel a white supremacist march to predominately black housing development a few blocks away where they were attempting home invasions. I guess they were unfamiliar with the neighborhood. The residents repelled that one before antifa got there but there is some video of the alt-right folks getting run off on the daily progress twitter feed, if you're interested.

So, basically, what I'd like you to understand is, this IS NOT two side egging eachother on to unavoidable violence for more attention. This is one side of terrorists declaring that they can and will hold a town hostage (they've been saying it for over a month now, actually) and the town responding to that threat.

The car that killed and injured people yesterday? Ohio tags. The medic tents which treated both sides... turns out the alt right erst didn’t bring any medics. (Guess they planned on doing all the injuring) Water bottles, snacks, shade tents (all volunteer, donations, none shut down by police...)? All those are manned by that radical left you keep hearing about.

Yeah, we all live here. I saw a lot of people I knew yesterday, none of them were speaking for unite the right. None of them were escalating violence, most of them were offering some kind of aid and defending."

[Skroe]

Don't forget the neo-confederates.

I mean who sees this poster with nazi imagery and thinks "Oh yeah, this will be a pleasant and peaceful gathering"

Oh hey look. Pepe again. Because memes are just a wink-wink-nudge-nudge for the White Nationalists.

The only Pepe image that ever was good: