Ima go to Germany next year and perform the Roman Salute, to see what "german" brown man fucks with a 1.97m tall 105kg man and his fiskars axe.
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Which destroyed your argument. Case closed. Get over it.
Yes, this ^^^ statement is inherently stupid.
Nothing contradictory there. Pointing a gun at someone is a threat in and of itself and in some countries that is enough to invoke self defense.
I cannot legally shoot them if they've changed their mind. I can only do it in a short window in between. Duh. And if I'm faster than they are changing their mind - I'm in the right and they made a mistake and paid for it. Easy.
Accuse? It's explicit, just look at what tricks you are doing.
All right, gentleperchildren, let's review. The year is 2024 - that's two-zero-two-four, as in the 21st Century's perfect vision - and I am sorry to say the world has become a pussy-whipped, Brady Bunch version of itself, run by a bunch of still-masked clots ridden infertile senile sissies who want the Last Ukrainian to die so they can get on with the War on China, with some middle-eastern genocide on the side
Have you ever been to school in Germany? Have you ever been joking around with friends? It comes up very casually. Of course we don't walk around with Swastikas doing the Nazi salute. We do it jokingly. Like tricking people into holding up their arm for too long and then asking "what the fuck are you doing". Hell I do mock Nazi salutes and Hitler impressions all the time with my Turkish friend. It's normal. It doesn't mean we're Nazis. It just means we make fun of our horrible past because it's easier to deal with it that way.
In my school there had only been a single person who did that to my knowledge and he was made fun of for the rest of his time there. Even jokingly, things like the salute or drawing Swastikas was off limits in public or semi public. I don't know what people did in their own rooms and in private, of course, but that is kind of the thing. You are not allowed to do that stuff in public, especially not when it is not entirely clear that you are mocking it. Satire is one of the fringe cases where it is allowed. That's why the guy in the OP was being investigated in that regard, and not simply fined.
Now punching him in the face is wrong of course.
You do realize that you might end up in jail for doing that, right?
He better have a legitimate reason to be carrying that in public then. One he can explain to the officers who will stop him to ask what he thinks he is doing.
And yes, you can get shot by the police in Europe if you behave stupidly threathening enough and carry a dangerous object.
"It's just like I always said! You can do battle with strength, you can do battle with wits, but no weapon can beat a great pair of tits!"
See, and this is why I prefer our (modern) constitution. Legal types have gotten better at phrasing and filling out the loopholes that people like Elim Garak like to exploit.
See "(1) Every person shall have the right to free development of his personality insofar as he does not violate the rights of others or offend against the constitutional order or the moral law." (Art. 2 Par. 1 GG)
It's a bit weirdly phrased, but it helps to know the context. It was originally going to be phrased "Everyone can do or not do anything they please." The myth goes that lawyers thought it was phrased too simplisticly. :P Either way, it basically already covers "free speech" and any other activity you'd like to do (in accordance with the constitution, moral laws and the limitation that you must not infringe on other people's rights).
Of course we have also, just to make sure, a specific freedom to your own opinion. But that's just so the simple folk really get the idea that (using American terms now) speech is in fact free, even if you somehow manage to argue that speech would not be an expression of your personality.
And thus, we do not have the stupid free speech discussion here. At all. Ever. That's why it baffles me that people like Elim Garak keep talking the US up as if it's the only country having free speech. All the while not knowing what freedom of speech actually is.
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Tell me where, I'd like to watch you getting beat into a pulp. I'll even call the ambulance for you. Bring cash to pay upfront, please. We heard that Americans aren't well insured on health issues.
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The two Chinese-Americans were fined 500 euro the week before this drunk did his Nazi salute so my guess is that's why he did it, monkey see monkey do kind of thing. The Germans fined the drunk too.
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If somebody does something that identifies him as a thing, he is the thing. If a person does a nazi greeting, it is a nazi. Court wont see it any other way. The person faces 1 year jail minimum.
your argumentation is like
"i drove drunk and killed 5 people in a car accident that i caused". and court says "no problem, u were drunk and not responsible for your actions".
they were not fined. What they did is a criminal offence with 1 year prison at least. 500 Euro was the bail-out from prison (its called security deposit in germany) until their process starts. Probably they went instantly to the airport and will never set a foot into germany again, which is probably the best and most diplomatic solution for all sides.
Most Romanians don't look like Gypsies at all lol
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I have a very good grasp of how things go down at bars. I frequent them regularly..
Dude gets drunk.
Dude is involved in some discussion.
Dude eventually starts talking shit. Probably defending his origins after he heard some negative remarks towards the current political situation in the US.
Dude thinks he's smart by coming back at the other person with a Hitler salute, trying to be more edgy.
BAM.. Lightning hits him several times.
He might indeed not be a Neo-nazi at all. In fact, I'd wager he isn't.
However, he is a prime example of an outright idiot, and with that deserves everything he had/has coming.
"The pen is mightier than the sword.. and considerably easier to write with."
Get drunk and do an actually harmless hand gesture? Get beaten up and arrested.
Get drunk and have sex with a guy? He goes to jail for rape.
Equality hoooo.
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