Right. Providing evidence to my point is a Strawman argument, good example.
You misunderstand my stance on the issue. I have never said that Star Wars is better without diversity, I have said that being a creator, an artist, an innovator, does not REQUIRE diversity. My evidence pointing to that fact is Star Wars, a movie that was created and developed by primarily one group of people with minimal deviations from the standard of Straight White Male.
Oh hey look. It's someone calling another person racist to try and divert the debate at hand. How innovative.
Was Ralph McQuarrie more influential that Doug Chang because Ralph was white?
I mean. Somehow your vision seems to be obsessed with a racial worldview, my argument has been that race doesn't play a role in creative output. Your statements seem to involve race at every turn, either by insinuating that I am racist or I have some problem with Asians simply because I don't believe that a more diverse workforce is necessary to produce a great product.
Let me be clear since you obviously have some sort of issue.
RACE DOES NOT DICTATE QUALITY OF A PRODUCT. HARD WORK, CREATIVITY, INGENUITY, DICTATE SUCCESS AND QUALITY.
Oooh I love cherries.
To properly judge a person's work you must look at their achievements and their failures. And oh boy, your imaginary friends in an office are laughing? You should get that checked out.
Now as to listing a Movie twice for credits? Oh hell yeah you can. There are rules and regulations specifically set by numerous Guilds in Hollywood dictating the procedures of working multiple roles on a film. I don't blame you for your ignorance of a work force you're not familiar with, I have no idea what the operating procedures are for a McDonalds. Although I'm sure you could tell me all about it
However here are the nitty gritty facts.
A Concept Artist will often pre-date production, this is before a project is even green-lit. A lot of times, specifically with conceptual art, it is done in order to bring a visual to a pitch meeting to help sell a movie. A lot of the time a concept artist will be brought on board prior to a final draft of a script.
That's why in numerous of the Ralph McQuarrie images you see Luke Skywalker as a girl, or wearing a mask, or Stormtroopers with Lightsabers.
Now the other thing he did in the Star Wars universe was Visual Effects. Specifically a Matte Artist, this is usually done during the course of filming or Post Production. A Matte Artist will create the artwork that is seen in the majority of shots that are realistically unavailable to shoot in. This is different than concept art because concept art can have a looser feel to it, where as a Matte Artist must be able to portray the background without it being discernible from the actual film footage.
Again, you and your imaginary friends who are laughing at this have little idea about the industry of which you criticize.
Moving on...
No.. It does.
Math must be hard for you.
Doug Chiang's Career
Experience
Lucasfilm
Vice President / Executive Creative Director
2013 – Present (4 years)
Executive Vice President
ImageMovers Digital
2006 – 2011 (5 years)
President
IceBlink Studios
2002 – 2006 (4 years)
Lucasfilm
Design Director
1995 – 2002 (7 years)
Creative Director
Industrial Light and Magic
1989 – 1995 (6 years)
ILM - 1989 to 1995
Lucasfilm 1995 - 2002
Lucasfilm 2013 - Current. (4)
so... 17 years. Still shy of that 30 year marker. You seem to be intent on applying credentials to a person who clearly doesn't have it.
You seem to be under the impression that Quantity > Quality in an art form.
See, there's that insistence on attributing creative credits where they are applicable.
Do you have any idea how much work goes into the pre-production of a Film? Of a TV Show that is Animated, which unlike Live TV takes MONTHS and has an overwhelming up front cost due to the fact you pay for animation all up front.
Do you have any idea how many meetings are involved, story boarding, casting, the over-arcing story between seasons, multiple meetings to ensure continuity?
I have, and do you know what the Vice President is usually doing? He's running the business of the studio in numbers and contracts. He's not going over the minutiae of a single episode unless he is personally involved in it in some way, and even then it's because he's voicing a character or given some sort of special cameo. The amount of Star Wars properties is so vast and numerous on a year to year basis in terms of development and output, press coverage, public relations, he doesn't have time to ensure the quality of his products on a micro-managing scale. He has to trust that the person he has hired to hire the talent, knows what they're doing.
Now to say that Doug Chiang isn't involved with Star Wars properties would be a fool's errand, however he is not down in the trenches handling the artistic vision of the individual properties being created.
...Better is an intangible concept that varies from perspective. While my opinion might be that Ralph McQuarrie is a better artist it would be as pointless to debate with you about 'better' as it would be for us to say whether or not Chocolate is better than Caramel.
I'm talking about influence. I'm talking about resonance from action.
Again your points seem to boil down that Quantity > Quality.
Your stance seems to be this
I'm not going to follow the possible argument that McQuarrie is still influencing Star Wars through Chiang because that's a load of garbage. McQuarrie is still influencing Star Wars...
Because Ralph McQuarrie is STILL influencing Star Wars
Diversity is fine. There's nothing wrong with a diverse workplace. But diversity for the sake of diversity does not allow the best to flourish because one person might be of the wrong skin color or ethnicity. Right now that 'Wrong Ethnicity' is White.
As a person of Jewish heritage, the fact that there could be any 'Wrong Ethnicity' is quite a disturbing thought.
Yep, just don't put mustard on my burger