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    Exclamation Crime threads are useless and misinformation

    Violent crime has been overall in decline worldwide, yet people are feeling more in danger than ever. Why ?

    Because Crime is over represented in the media just like it is on this forum.

    There are possibly thousands of news articles about crime daily.

    I could post 10 a day, with a particular focus on crimes committed by X group, and give the impression that said group commits more crimes.

    I could just spam them indiscriminately and give the impression that the world is a dangerous place populated by psychotic killers.

    Anyways, the average crime thread on gen it goes like this:

    -(Op)
    - -random insult- hope he gets a hard sentence !
    - religion of peace/ facts are racist
    - 3 different posts of sincere condolences

    Nothing of value is added or even discussed, as those threads all end up as people venting their anxiety in the various forms above.

    I'm not saying we should deny the existence of crime but constant exposure to death and tragedy isn't representative of the real world nor useful in any manner.
    And the people who spend their time posting them rarely do so for informational purpose, they do so to further a political agenda of fearmongering, and always post very specific kinds of articles because those are the ones that filtered through their social media feed.


    Being well informed isn't knowing about every random incident and horror story that happens 24/7 and in all countries

    Constant exposure to carnage is just as harmful as restrictions on information
    Misinformation is not necessarily fake news it can be actual events portrayed in a specific way to fit an agenda.

    I made this trade a while ago but it was deleted instantly because the title was calling for a ban. I edited it in accordance and still think it is a valid concern and worth discussing so I rephrased it. Hope it's ok @Crissi sorry if it's not

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    But how would I push my agenda if I could not post about specific incidents?
    Come on!

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    The internet makes every crime local even thought it happened 3,000 miles away from you. That's why Black Lives Matter people in Miami get mad about the Seattle police shooting a black man.

    It seems like everything on the internet is right outside, almost within reach.
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    So what? Ban crime threads? Crime is still an issue. We should still talk about it regardless about how statistics say it happens compared to years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Cheese View Post
    So what? Ban crime threads? Crime is still an issue. We should still talk about it regardless about how statistics say it happens compared to years ago.
    Crime is an issue

    But we're not discussing the complex topic of criminology and its origins, most of the time it's just the same 2 / 3 dudes that post about cherry picked incidents and the replies are at best just along the line of "jail him", insults, my thoughts go to the family, and other useless stuff

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    Degrading terrorist attacks into mere Crime is not helping your case.
    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    I'd never compare him to Hitler, Hitler was actually well educated, and by all accounts pretty intelligent.

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    The problem is that people tend to cherry pick which reports they want to use, generally to further a political agenda, without taking the time to actually do a compilation of reports to find out the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tierbook View Post
    Degrading terrorist attacks into mere Crime is not helping your case.
    terrorism is a crime you know ?

    I realize some people are big on the idea that we're in a civilization war or something but Islamic terrorism is so insignificant in the grand scheme of things it's laughable

    Media fodder for dronish people to have something to focus their attention on while the powers that be are free to destroy the planet and our economy

    Sad truth is for terrorism to even exist it has to be reported in the media
    If people stoped watching it you would deprive them of their audience and of the very reason to do it

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    What you are seeing with these X(racial/religious identity none white none chrsitian) commits heinous crime threads, is not that there is a statistical majority chance that you will be a victim of the crime, in fact crimes across the board have gone done, but your seeing a revolt of whites almost demanding a fascist white ethno-state look no further than richard spencer and the national policy institute, unfortunately its the inevitable conclusion of the way things are going just as it was in the 1930s so if you are in the groups they target or even have pro socialist views when they get in power they will kill you. Really sad they scream free speech and censorship in favor of there agenda just as they did in the 1930s but as soon as they get in power and the murders start happening you wont see many journalist covering it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurata View Post
    Violent crime has been overall in decline worldwide, yet people are feeling more in danger than ever. Why ?

    Because Crime is over represented in the media just like it is on this forum.

    There are possibly thousands of news articles about crime daily.

    I could post 10 a day, with a particular focus on crimes committed by X group, and give the impression that said group commits more crimes.

    I could just spam them indiscriminately and give the impression that the world is a dangerous place populated by psychotic killers.

    Anyways, the average crime thread on gen it goes like this:

    -(Op)
    - -random insult- hope he gets a hard sentence !
    - religion of peace/ facts are racist
    - 3 different posts of sincere condolences

    Nothing of value is added or even discussed, as those threads all end up as people venting their anxiety in the various forms above.

    I'm not saying we should deny the existence of crime but constant exposure to death and tragedy isn't representative of the real world nor useful in any manner.
    And the people who spend their time posting them rarely do so for informational purpose, they do so to further a political agenda of fearmongering, and always post very specific kinds of articles because those are the ones that filtered through their social media feed.


    Being well informed isn't knowing about every random incident and horror story that happens 24/7 and in all countries

    Constant exposure to carnage is just as harmful as restrictions on information
    Misinformation is not necessarily fake news it can be actual events portrayed in a specific way to fit an agenda.

    I made this trade a while ago but it was deleted instantly because the title was calling for a ban. I edited it in accordance and still think it is a valid concern and worth discussing so I rephrased it. Hope it's ok @Crissi sorry if it's not
    Statistics in and of themselves ARE NOT RACIST they are what they are, and should be taken for what they are nothing more nothing less, same thing as with I.Q and biological differences among people with different genetics.

    That said it is important to distinguish between academic claims and what scientist will say about their own work, what it means and how it is applied.


    The same can be true crime and statistics African Americans make up for a large percentage of crime statistics not just drug offenses across the board. We don't KNOW why that is anymore than WE KNOW why a placebo effect works.

    There are markets and things we thing correlate.

    The truth is crime and statistics depend on a great deal of factors, I.Q being one, but not totally, trust me plenty of higher I.Q individuals commit violent crimes or anything else, they just tend to get away with it more, and it typically involves different methods.

    The other factor which is argued is environment however based on statistics also has a very huge role to play.
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    Reposting useless and locked threads:

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...ould-be-banned

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomzy View Post
    I don't get why we are supposed to take somebody with a communist flag on their avatar seriously. That's just as laughable as using a Swastika.
    If hitler said the earth is round you're gonna deny it too because it comes from hitler ?

    That's how stupid you sound tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by thevoicefromwithin View Post
    Reposting useless and locked threads:

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...ould-be-banned
    Edited to comply though

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    Turn off the TV, phone, and PC and talk with your neighbors. You will find the world isn't as messed up as the media loves to remind you.

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    But Florida Man threads are funny!

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    This thread is worthless.

    At least people who complain and have reactions are producing something of value.

    but as a communist I don't really expect you to understand how something could have value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Cheese View Post
    But Florida Man threads are funny!
    Funny is the enemy of reason

    We spend way too much time entertaining ourselves as a species

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaexion Ramza Beoulve View Post
    This thread is worthless.

    At least people who complain and have reactions are producing something of value.

    but as a communist I don't really expect you to understand how something could have value.
    What possible value is produced by complaining

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurata View Post
    Funny is the enemy of reason

    We spend way too much time entertaining ourselves as a species

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    What possible value is produced by complaining
    Holy shit aren't you a ray of sunshine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Cheese View Post
    Holy shit aren't you a ray of sunshine.
    Radiant light of the proletariat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    The internet makes every crime local even thought it happened 3,000 miles away from you. That's why Black Lives Matter people in Miami get mad about the Seattle police shooting a black man.

    It seems like everything on the internet is right outside, almost within reach.
    Yet people don't give a fuck about others dying in another country. "My country, my backyard" right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurata View Post
    Violent crime has been overall in decline worldwide, yet people are feeling more in danger than ever. Why ?

    Because Crime is over represented in the media just like it is on this forum.

    There are possibly thousands of news articles about crime daily.

    I could post 10 a day, with a particular focus on crimes committed by X group, and give the impression that said group commits more crimes.

    I could just spam them indiscriminately and give the impression that the world is a dangerous place populated by psychotic killers.

    Anyways, the average crime thread on gen it goes like this:

    -(Op)
    - -random insult- hope he gets a hard sentence !
    - religion of peace/ facts are racist
    - 3 different posts of sincere condolences

    Nothing of value is added or even discussed, as those threads all end up as people venting their anxiety in the various forms above.

    I'm not saying we should deny the existence of crime but constant exposure to death and tragedy isn't representative of the real world nor useful in any manner.
    And the people who spend their time posting them rarely do so for informational purpose, they do so to further a political agenda of fearmongering, and always post very specific kinds of articles because those are the ones that filtered through their social media feed.


    Being well informed isn't knowing about every random incident and horror story that happens 24/7 and in all countries

    Constant exposure to carnage is just as harmful as restrictions on information
    Misinformation is not necessarily fake news it can be actual events portrayed in a specific way to fit an agenda.

    I made this trade a while ago but it was deleted instantly because the title was calling for a ban. I edited it in accordance and still think it is a valid concern and worth discussing so I rephrased it. Hope it's ok @Crissi sorry if it's not
    You've touched upon the great problem with social media in general, where overrepresentation leads to skewed perceptions.

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