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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by mayhem008 View Post
    It doesn't matter which war he was a traitor in. He's still a traitor.
    He wasn't a traitor to our nation... you know George Washington isn't on any British money right?

    Whatever point you're trying to make it's really foolish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    Yes. Only cavemen still use cash.
    Also, this. Who carries cash around?
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  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    He wasn't a traitor to our nation... you know George Washington isn't on any British money right?

    Whatever point you're trying to make it's really foolish.
    The point I'm trying to make is we shouldn't glorify slave owners. Do you not agree?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mayhem008 View Post
    So was George Washington.
    George Washington was a confederate traitor? OMG!

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Kathandira View Post
    We put Washington on the note because he was the winner. Now if any one the below people were on the note, I could understand.

    Thomas Gage.
    William Howe.
    Henry Clinton.
    Guy Carleton.
    John Burgoyne.
    Charles Cornwallis.
    Richard Howe.
    Mariot Arbuthnot.
    I thought we were talking about slave owners not confederates.

  6. #26
    Should people be boycotting american money?


    Shhhhh They'll be wanting us to change the money next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mayhem008 View Post
    winning doesn't make you not a traitor. He betrayed England.
    It does, because you write the history. You win, you can be whatever you want. You lose, you get to be all the things you don't want to be.

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    I will gladly accept all boycotted money.
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  9. #29
    What an amazingly stupid idea. Also Grant wasn't a slave owner.
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  10. #30
    Jesus fucking Christ the marathon of mental hoops people will jump through to keep up racist statues that were built to solidify white power at the height of the Jim Crow laws era. You gotta honor the traitors to our nation who tried to secede and then fight the U.S. It is so ironic that Republicans constantly pound their chest that they are the most patriotic Americans around with their giant American flags in their trucks. Yet now you see so many of them buddy up with Russians, Nazis, and American traitors.

  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by mayhem008 View Post
    winning doesn't make you not a traitor. He betrayed England.
    You can make a pretty strong case that England betrayed him and the other colonists. Of course none of this matter, this idea is about as dumb as your can of dehydrated water.
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  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by mayhem008 View Post
    So the $1, $20, $50, and $100 bills all depict slave owners. Should the american public be boycotting them at this point?
    Yes let us dirty Americans boycott dirty American money and instead buy up all the good and righteous Rubles we can. Only when we move to glorious Rubles will we begin to move away from disgusting immoral Western ideals and on to magnificent Russian ideals.

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by mayhem008 View Post
    winning doesn't make you not a traitor. He betrayed England.
    The declaration of Independence lays out the the colonists justifications for separation and though Britain, at the time, disputed it, when Canada made the same complaints in later decades Britain basically agreed that their demands were justified. The Durham Report, composed by John George Lambton, 1st Earl of Durham concerning Canadian and American grievances, laments that the colonists were right and had Britain given the same rights to the American Colonists that they ended up giving to Canada there would have been no American Revolution.

    Fighting injustice is not a traitorous act and Britain even accepted they were in the wrong. Personally, I would have preferred a unified British Empire with the colonists given home rule and representation like Canada received. History may have been pleasantly different

    On topic, you cannot erase history and as much as people hate it, the men depicted on American currency were instrumental in their history. Similarly, it was the ideas of white Europeans, mainly in Britain, but also espoused by Jefferson, concerning the rights of man that lead to the standards of equality we have today. When Jefferson first wrote all men are created equal he didn't mean non whites, but as people began to analyze such as statement they came to understand that its statement concerning equality should equate to all mankind.
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  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by mayhem008 View Post
    So was George Washington.
    He wasn't a traitor to America. And if America had lost the revolution...you can be guaranteed you wouldn't see his face on any currency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mayhem008 View Post
    winning doesn't make you not a traitor. He betrayed England.
    His face isn't on any British currency.
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  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by mayhem008 View Post
    The point I'm trying to make is we shouldn't glorify slave owners. Do you not agree?
    George Washington is honored for the work he did for the United States as a whole, he was our first President, that means something. Him being a slave owner doesn't take that fact away. Slavery was an extremely common thing back then, doesn't make it right by any means, but to act like him being a slave owner completely ruins and absolves him of all of his accomplishments is just absurd.

  16. #36
    In total, twelve presidents owned slaves at some point in their lives, eight of whom owned slaves while serving as president. George Washington was the first president to own slaves, including while he was president.


    Jefferson owned over 600 slaves, Washington 320 or so.

    Ulysses S Grant owned one slave for 2 years who he freed.
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    No of course not. But real talk, America's money design has been nothing but terrible since the start of the mid-1990s redesigns, through the present day,.

    From this




    to this:



    Terrible.

    Forget about whose on it. The design is just a mess from top to bottom.

  18. #38
    The people on those notes have accomplishments that go beyond being a slave owner. Each contributed to the history and legacy of the United States in a tangible and meaningful way.

    Confederate generals were known for leading a revolution against the very nation you people claim to love. Their legacy is treason and tens of thousands of dead Americans in a war fought to preserve the dying institution of slavery. We remember our history, but those people are absolutely undeserving of any position of respect or reverence in our nation. If you can't see why Andrew Jackson is even with all of his baggage, and Stonewall Jackson isn't, then you're just being willfully ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mayhem008 View Post
    winning doesn't make you not a traitor. He betrayed England.
    Jesus, that is a horrendous argument. Did you even think about that before you typed it? He's not a traitor to the nation that put him on the money. You know, the one we're currently talking about?

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    Yes, boycott it and give to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buck008 View Post

    Jesus, that is a horrendous argument. Did you even think about that before you typed it? He's not a traitor to the nation that put him on the money. You know, the one we're currently talking about?
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