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    Is saying "all right wingers are fascists" the same as "all muslims are terrorists"?

    Is saying "all right wingers are fascists" the same as "all muslims are terrorists"? Both are wrong generalisations. However it seems to appear the first one is never frowned upon, and the latter one is. Especially on these forums.

    How is that? Isn't is a tiny bit hypocritical to call all right wingers fascist because they generalise, while at the same time your doing the exact same thing? How is it different from the right wingers saying that all muslims are terrorists or all mexicans are criminals and rapists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDonald View Post
    Is saying "all right wingers are fascists" the same as "all muslims are terrorists"? Both are wrong generalisations. However it seems to appear the first one is never frowned upon, and the latter one is. Especially on these forums.

    How is that? Isn't is a tiny bit hypocritical to call all right wingers fascist because they generalise, while at the same time your doing the exact same thing? How is it different from the right wingers saying that all muslims are terrorists or all mexicans are criminals and rapists?
    Hypocrites generally lack self-awareness.

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    That would depend on if the person making accusations is trying to mock all the right wingers who did the exact same thing about Muslims.

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    It's not the same. The difference is that you're allowed to say one but not the other
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    Who actually says all right wingers are fascists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bovinity Divinity View Post
    Pretty much, yes.

    This is what happens when there's too much divisiveness in the culture, though. I identify as primarily left-wing, but I don't think most right-leaning people are fascists at all. That statement doesn't even make sense. In US politics, right-wing people tend to just be conservatives, which isn't entirely a bad thing.

    But since the majority of people can't seem to see past their TV or their chosen propaganda website, everyone who doesn't agree with you is the enemy. Lefties are SJW snowflake communists who don't want to work and want the government to give them free stuff, and Righties are fascist nazi KKK racist homophobes who want to blitzkrieg your rights and have a second holocaust. Blah blah blah.

    What's even funnier is that both sides are coming for the moderates now, too. It's like they both want to shame everyone into "picking a side" so everything becomes as awful as possible.
    I think this post not only /threads this, but also /threads and TL;DRs literally every political post until the entire system changes.

    This is Politics in 2017. You're either a SJW/BLM/Feminazi or a Fascist/Nazi/Racist. If you're neither (like a sensible human being), you're seen as the opposing side to both sides.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chrysia View Post
    Who actually says all right wingers are fascists?
    Any person on the crazed-left side. Anyone on the far ends of the spectrum of course are not of sound mind people to begin with.
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    I barely see some people claim all the right wingers are fascists(both US parties are facists? lolwut?). Is this a new strawman?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDonald View Post
    Is saying "all right wingers are fascists" the same as "all muslims are terrorists"? Both are wrong generalisations. However it seems to appear the first one is never frowned upon, and the latter one is. Especially on these forums.

    How is that? Isn't is a tiny bit hypocritical to call all right wingers fascist because they generalise, while at the same time your doing the exact same thing? How is it different from the right wingers saying that all muslims are terrorists or all mexicans are criminals and rapists?
    Wish the bolded part was much clearer. This is what the "left" was trying to tell the right wing for a long time, while being called PC and SJW. Besides, if you are talking about the latest threads after the Charlottesville, then you are wrong in your assumption that all right wing members are being called fascists. Members of KKK, other racial hate groups or those openly associate themselves with them are being called fascists and racists, which they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    I barely see some people claim all the right wingers are fascists(both US parties are facists? lolwut?). Is this a new strawman?
    This entire thread premise is to create a straw man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polarthief View Post
    Any person on the crazed-left side. Anyone on the far ends of the spectrum of course are not of sound mind people to begin with.[/FONT]
    I mean, Elba here on the message boards might, but I don't take Elba seriously, and nobody else does.

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    What is this thread doing on MMO-Champ forums? Most threads here seem like an extreme left echo chamber...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrysia View Post
    I mean, Elba here on the message boards might, but I don't take Elba seriously, and nobody else does.

    Speak of the devil!
    Even most of the far left still see a difference between fascism and the liberal right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martymark View Post
    What is this thread doing on MMO-Champ forums? Most threads here seem like an extreme left echo chamber...
    You must read better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Even most of the far left still see a difference between fascism and the liberal right.
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    No, because calling muslims terrorist is racist, while on the other hand it's impossible to be racist against white people.
    Um, sweety, did you really think that you can just apply the same logic to the other side?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDonald View Post
    Is saying "all right wingers are fascists" the same as "all muslims are terrorists"? Both are wrong generalisations. However it seems to appear the first one is never frowned upon, and the latter one is. Especially on these forums.

    How is that? Isn't is a tiny bit hypocritical to call all right wingers fascist because they generalise, while at the same time your doing the exact same thing? How is it different from the right wingers saying that all muslims are terrorists or all mexicans are criminals and rapists?
    All left-wingers are full-blown communists.

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    Of course it is.

    The people branding all Muslims terrorists, also have the sort of black and white views which brands every other group by the example of the few. Women, non-whites, non-Christians and so on. Branding all right-wingers the same way, makes you closer to alt-right mentality than you might be comfortable with.



    Quote Originally Posted by Martymark View Post
    What is this thread doing on MMO-Champ forums? Most threads here seem like an extreme left echo chamber...
    Talk about selective memory... Tons of alt-righters frequent these forums. The issue they have, is that they tend to stand for opinions and air those opinions meaning they get bans.

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    Of course both are wrong and tbh I haven't seen many make those claims, fascism is a far left ideology though, as is socialism, communism, nazism (aka national socialism), and other evils, that's not to say there's no evils from the far right though, I'm sure some could highlight those. The far left (which if we're honest is mainstream liberalism in the west now) also seems to be very cosy with radical Islamic groups like the Muslim Brotherhood and CAIR. I'm seeing a pattern.

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    Not exactly.

    Right wingers aren't fascists at all, a fascist requires right wing + authoritarian. But there is a prerequestite.

    Muslims on the other hand just 'happen' to be the most common terrorist today (used to be Protestants 50 years ago) - But there is NO prerequisite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muadiib View Post
    Of course both are wrong, fascism is a far left ideology though, as is socialism, communism, nazism (aka national socialism), and other evils, that's not to say there's no evils from the far right though, I'm sure some could highlight those. The far left (which if we're honest is mainstream liberalism in the west now) also seems to be very cosy with radical Islamic groups like the Muslim Brotherhood and CAIR. I'm seeing a pattern.
    Radical Islam is actually a Far Right Ideology, which is pretty ironic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    Muslims on the other hand just 'happen' to be the most common terrorist today (used to be Protestants 50 years ago)
    Actually that would be Communists.

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