Ageism - the secret discrimination

[Mistame]

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What the fuck are you on about? Your post has nothing to do with the OP.

[WskyDK]

Having seen a recent thread on MMO asking "How old you are" , I came to the conclusion that the average age of respondents on this forum
is around the mid 30 year old range.

Thats fantastic. As in the mid 30s you should be making positive moves in life and your career etc.

However, in this society of looking good and youngish, as soon as an individual starts to hit the middle age range of 45 plus.
Then things can start to go downhill.

If you are made redundant in the mid 40's or 50's , Human resource consultants tend to put you at the bottom of the pile when applying for a job.
This can be upsetting as you may have the correct skills & experience for the role.

There is an assumption in the modern workplace that older workers can not pick up IT skills too.

To join the army or armed forces the cut off could be around 50 years.. Even though you can be very fit at 50.

Even young people around 16 or 17 can experience Ageism..Not enough experience

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...get/432712001/

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/ageism...02-13ta5q.html

https://www.theguardian.com/sustaina...-slow-to-learn

Unlike all other prejudices, ageism is relevant to every person fortunate enough to make it beyond 60 years of age.

Ageism is discrimination based on prejudices about age. When ageism is directed at older people, it often involves the assumptions that older people are less competent than younger people. Ageism can have a huge negative impact on older people.

Our society is not treating older people as equals. In fact, we are marginalizing their participation and minimizing their contributions.
To live up to our ideals, we must confront the injustice of ageism.

Has anyone on MMO experienced some form of discrimination due to ageism ?

42 is the maximum age someone can enlist in the Armed Forces (here in the US anyways)

[Doctor Amadeus]

What the fuck are you on about? Your post has nothing to do with the OP.

Sure it does, that is the point of the OP, Ageism. It doesn't have as much to do with age as it does child exploitation in my opinion.

[Noomz]

Having seen a recent thread on MMO asking "How old you are" , I came to the conclusion that the average age of respondents on this forum
is around the mid 30 year old range.

Thats fantastic. As in the mid 30s you should be making positive moves in life and your career etc.

However, in this society of looking good and youngish, as soon as an individual starts to hit the middle age range of 45 plus.
Then things can start to go downhill.

If you are made redundant in the mid 40's or 50's , Human resource consultants tend to put you at the bottom of the pile when applying for a job.
This can be upsetting as you may have the correct skills & experience for the role.

There is an assumption in the modern workplace that older workers can not pick up IT skills too.

To join the army or armed forces the cut off could be around 50 years.. Even though you can be very fit at 50.

Even young people around 16 or 17 can experience Ageism..Not enough experience

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...get/432712001/

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/ageism...02-13ta5q.html

https://www.theguardian.com/sustaina...-slow-to-learn

Unlike all other prejudices, ageism is relevant to every person fortunate enough to make it beyond 60 years of age.

Ageism is discrimination based on prejudices about age. When ageism is directed at older people, it often involves the assumptions that older people are less competent than younger people. Ageism can have a huge negative impact on older people.

Our society is not treating older people as equals. In fact, we are marginalizing their participation and minimizing their contributions.
To live up to our ideals, we must confront the injustice of ageism.

Has anyone on MMO experienced some form of discrimination due to ageism ?

And the same people then get called lazy and unmotivated because they can't find a job at that age, even though to anyone that's actually looking for a job it's clear that the job market is discriminating against them.

[Mistame]

Sure it does, that is the point of the OP, Ageism. It doesn't have as much to do with age as it does child exploitation in my opinion.

No, it doesn't.

ageism
prejudice or discrimination against a particular age-group and especially the elderly

Neither the OP nor "ageism" has anything to do with diddling children. It's about age discrimination. And if you'd bothered to actually read through the OP and subsequent posts, you'd see the discussion is focused on age discrimination in employment.

[Doctor Amadeus]

No, it doesn't.
Neither the OP nor "ageism" has anything to do with diddling children. It's about age discrimination. And if you'd bothered to actually read through the OP and subsequent posts, you'd see the discussion is focused on age discrimination in employment.

Yes but this is what I was responding to when you replied to me

Why do you refer to mature males being old age perverts
You would be very surprised to see that quite a few so called perverts.. are in their 20s or 30s
This is a socialism thing from you..
"All Middle age white Males" should not vote or have any say in Government
Thats the way I feel about your comment, from previous threads.

Who was replying to this

No fucking someone who is barely an adult without enough experience to really make an informed decision vs some old ass pervert. HMM yeah gonna have to go with NO!

Now if this thread had been about people that bust their ass all their lives help out at least their own families only to get to a point where they have to wear depends and get stuffed in a old folks home to be forgotten and die inside until their body catches up surrounded by strangers is minimum conditions yeah that is fucked up, that would have been some ageism.

Especially since older folk have a wealth and treasure full of knowledge that comes from experience that could be best used by imparting that wisdom to their grand children going forward, teaching them tolerance love, and to appreciate their mortality.

Which was in direct reply to the OP, and I broke down what ageism was in reference to difference circumstances.


So wen you responded you responded to what I said after being addressed specifically about Age of Consent laws.


Hope that clears that up.

[Mistame]

Yes but this is what I was responding to when you replied to me

Who was replying to this

Which was in direct reply to the OP, and I broke down what ageism was in reference to difference circumstances.

So wen you responded you responded to what I said after being addressed specifically about Age of Consent laws.

Hope that clears that up.

I saw the chain of comments. And again, "Ageism" and the OP have nothing to do with "age of consent". Even your initial comment ("No fucking someone who is barely an adult without enough experience to really make an informed decision vs some old ass pervert") is completely irrelevant to the OP.

[Doctor Amadeus]

I saw the chain of comments. And again, "Ageism" and the OP have nothing to do with "age of consent". Even your initial comment ("No fucking someone who is barely an adult without enough experience to really make an informed decision vs some old ass pervert.") is utterly irrelevant.

Ok, by time I count to 3 you are going to forget everything you saw or we been talking about or, 1...2..3... You forget yet? What if i pay you $50.00


Alright seriously, yes I answered the OP in the context of how I viewed it as far as what it was really about and the response I got pretty much confirmed it.



Now look over there, something shiney....

[Mistame]

Ok, by time I count to 3 you are going to forget everything you saw or we been talking about or, 1...2..3... You forget yet? What if i pay you $50.00

You're not pretty enough to forget.

Alright seriously, yes I answered the OP in the context of how I viewed it as far as what it was really about and the response I got pretty much confirmed it.

I mean, if you make an unrelated post and someone responds that doesn't mean that your post was relevant to the OP. Silly rabbit.

Now look over there, something shiney...

I don't suffer from ADOS.

[Doctor Amadeus]

You're not pretty enough to forget.

Yeah well, not what my mom says just kidding.

I mean, if you make an unrelated post and someone responds that doesn't mean that your post was relevant to the OP. Silly rabbit.

That's just mean and I am not listening to you over my tears.

I don't suffer from ADOS.

These are not the droids you're looking for...

[Mistame]

That's just mean and I am not listening to you over my tears.

Cry quieter. You're disturbing my eye-rolls.

[Vynny]

That doesn't matter. It's illegal but companies don't give a fuck.

You're still buying into experience. If that only lasts for another 10-20 years, so be it. Shit, the people taking these decisions are usually above 50 themselves.

yeah, but the people making these decisions aren't new recruits. They're typically people who have been with that company or employer for years already. Like I said, when an employer hires you, they're not just hiring you currently, they're hiring you for the years to come thus it's not unreasonable take age into account due to the issues that start occurring when someone hits 60 or 70. They get much more out of investing in a 20 or 30 year old than they do investing into a 50 year old.

[StayTuned]

yeah, but the people making these decisions aren't new recruits. They're typically people who have been with that company or employer for years already. Like I said, when an employer hires you, they're not just hiring you currently, they're hiring you for the years to come thus it's not unreasonable take age into account due to the issues that start occurring when someone hits 60 or 70. They get much more out of investing in a 20 or 30 year old than they do investing into a 50 year old.

The reasons are irrelevant, even if "reasonable". You are not supposed to think that way as an employer. People who are even looking for excuses are making the problems worse.

[RickJamesLich]

The reasons are irrelevant, even if "reasonable". You are not supposed to think that way as an employer. People who are even looking for excuses are making the problems worse.

It's legal, but people do it because generally speaking, hiring older workers is a net loss compared to hiring someone younger. There's always going to be exceptions to the rule, but in general it's just a smart decision to stay away from elderly workers for a myriad of reasons. It is a sad situation no doubt, but it's not like it's being done for no reason.

[Blobfish]

42 is the maximum age someone can enlist in the Armed Forces (here in the US anyways)

Well the Armed forces are discriminating right there.
I know of men & women who are super fit at age 45 -50

Can't see why the armed forces cannot raise the Bar to even 45..or 50

Heck Tom Cruise is till doing his own stunts and jumping of buildings at age 55.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-en...-a7897536.html



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[TwistedSkull]

Well the Armed forces are discriminating right there.
I know of men & women who are super fit at age 45 -50

Can't see why the armed forces cannot raise the Bar to even 45..or 50

Heck Tom Cruise is till doing his own stunts and jumping of buildings at age 55.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-en...-a7897536.html



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And how well did that go for Tom?

[Deleted]

It's not just about energy, but also about drive and motivation, being hungry to succeed, to have grown up with mondern technology, being fit and healthy, to be a long term employee worth investing in, etc. etc.

The difference between someone that's 20 and someone that's 30 is already big. The gap between 20 and 45+ is huge.

Yeah it sucks to lose your job at 45+ and having to compete with young people, but you only lose that competition if you spend the last 25 years not learning anything that's worth it to hire you over a younger person.

Have valuable skilles and knowledge = age matters LESS (but still matters)
Have no valuable skills and knowledge = they choose the younger person100% of the time

[Ghostpanther]

Having seen a recent thread on MMO asking "How old you are" , I came to the conclusion that the average age of respondents on this forum
is around the mid 30 year old range.

Thats fantastic. As in the mid 30s you should be making positive moves in life and your career etc.

However, in this society of looking good and youngish, as soon as an individual starts to hit the middle age range of 45 plus.
Then things can start to go downhill.

If you are made redundant in the mid 40's or 50's , Human resource consultants tend to put you at the bottom of the pile when applying for a job.
This can be upsetting as you may have the correct skills & experience for the role.

There is an assumption in the modern workplace that older workers can not pick up IT skills too.

To join the army or armed forces the cut off could be around 50 years.. Even though you can be very fit at 50.

Even young people around 16 or 17 can experience Ageism..Not enough experience

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...get/432712001/

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/ageism...02-13ta5q.html

https://www.theguardian.com/sustaina...-slow-to-learn

Unlike all other prejudices, ageism is relevant to every person fortunate enough to make it beyond 60 years of age.

Ageism is discrimination based on prejudices about age. When ageism is directed at older people, it often involves the assumptions that older people are less competent than younger people. Ageism can have a huge negative impact on older people.

Our society is not treating older people as equals. In fact, we are marginalizing their participation and minimizing their contributions.
To live up to our ideals, we must confront the injustice of ageism.

Has anyone on MMO experienced some form of discrimination due to ageism ?

The age limit for the US Air Force for enlisting is 39. 35 for the US Army. I think the US Army Reserves however has a age limit of 40. Things are on the decline for the large majority of people when they hit 50. A man's physical prime age on average is 28. https://www.stripes.com/news/air-for...to-39-1.290578