Is saying "all right wingers are fascists" the same as "all muslims are terrorists"?

[JohnBrown1917]

It was. I mean Nazis were called the National Socialist Worker's Party

inb4 "B... But they weren't real socialists!"

https://twitter.com/MikeStuchbery_/s...chbery-7900001

you should take a hint.

far-left liberal.

Left wing liberal is an oxymoron.

Hitler was, more or less, a failed Liberal Arts student who felt he was promoting equality by oppressing people he viewed as privileged... But apparently he was "right-wing" because the ones he viewed as priveleged were jews and not white males

Everybody who was not white and straight*

[Khaza-R]

Hmm...

Low education, high unemployment, fundamentalist religious beliefs, xenophobic attitudes towards foreigners.

Which group am I describing?

Probably the best point in this entire thread

[Theodarzna]

Is saying "all right wingers are fascists" the same as "all muslims are terrorists"? Both are wrong generalisations. However it seems to appear the first one is never frowned upon, and the latter one is. Especially on these forums.

How is that? Isn't is a tiny bit hypocritical to call all right wingers fascist because they generalise, while at the same time your doing the exact same thing? How is it different from the right wingers saying that all muslims are terrorists or all mexicans are criminals and rapists?

I believe the current standard of "Is a group responsible for the actions of its members" is dependent on their perceived skin color. If your a bit darker, with an exotic non-Western religion then its "Don't look back in anger" and "We don't want to cause community tensions". If your a few shades paler then its an indictment of your community.

[Chrysia]

I believe the current standard of "Is a group responsible for the actions of its members" is dependent on their perceived skin color. If your a bit darker, with an exotic non-Western religion then its "Don't look back in anger" and "We don't want to cause community tensions". If your a few shades paler then its an indictment of your community.

No. The actions of Neo-Nazis reflect on Neo-Nazis as long as those actions are driven by the person's Neo-Nazism.

The actions of ISIS members reflect on ISIS if they took those actions in the name of ISIS. They do not reflect on Islam because ISIS isn't the sum total of Islamic interpretations.

[Theodarzna]

No. The actions of Neo-Nazis reflect on Neo-Nazis as long as those actions are driven by the person's Neo-Nazism.

The actions of ISIS members reflect on ISIS if they took those actions in the name of ISIS. They do not reflect on Islam because ISIS isn't the sum total of Islamic interpretations.

Considering the definition of Neo-Nazi is anyone who didn't vote of Hillary Clinton, then I don't particularly take that seriously.

[Chrysia]

Considering the definition of Neo-Nazi is anyone who didn't vote of Hillary Clinton, then I don't particularly take that seriously.

No, that is not my definition, nor the definition of the majority of people.

[Maruka]

I think they are very much similar sure.

[Machismo]

You think all right wingers think all Muslims are terrorists? I guess the irony is lost upon you.

Nope, I'm enjoying all of the irony.

[vaeevictiss]

the real joke is how fascist antifa is...but thats none of my business /meme

[shrunken]

yes, obviously.

there are plenty of people on the extreme left & the extreme right borrowing their favorite authoritarian tidbits from fascism though, so don't expect it to not be part of the conversation for quite some time.

[JohnBrown1917]

Considering the definition of Neo-Nazi is anyone who didn't vote of Hillary Clinton, then I don't particularly take that seriously.

Ye, lets just ignore that huge rally with nazi imaginary.
You're trying to hard to make seem as people are not talking about nazis.


You really think a lot of people call everybody to the left of Clinton as nazis?

[Freighter]

I guess.

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[Wyrt]

Is the right really going to cry about that after they've been screaming "COMMUNIST!" at moderates for the last 8+ years?

[Aggrophobic]

Is saying "all right wingers are fascists" the same as "all muslims are terrorists"? Both are wrong generalisations. However it seems to appear the first one is never frowned upon, and the latter one is. Especially on these forums.

How is that? Isn't is a tiny bit hypocritical to call all right wingers fascist because they generalise, while at the same time your doing the exact same thing? How is it different from the right wingers saying that all muslims are terrorists or all mexicans are criminals and rapists?

Whos saying "all right wingers are fascists" though? Where did you get this from?
White supremacists are very much like nazies however.

[Nerovar]

Let's agree to disagree, certainly historically it was spawned from socialism which is left wing and now it's predominantly coming from the left, as much as they try to project(ile vomit) it onto the right using the "rules for radicals" as a template.

Fascism was the reaction of reactionaries and other parts of the political establishment who were afraid of losing their power to socialist parties in many European countries. Fascists like Mussolini were actively supported by the big industry and right wing/facists militias (Blackshirts, SA) were supported or tolerated by the middle class to "maintain order" by breaking strikes and attacking party offices of socialist parties similar to the Freikorps that were used to suppress the Spartacist uprising and also kill members of the KPD like Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht. Fascism was always and will always be a spawn of the disinhibited middle class whereas socialism is an ideology that is mainly directed at the members of the working class.

You are simply wrong.

[Fencers]

Being Muslim is not defined by the characteristic of terrorism.

Alt-right is characterized by nationalism. Specifically, more extreme right wing policies and ethnic whites. Alt right was a term created to encompass those notions, again, specifically.

Muslim is not a term created to define religious extremism or terrorism.

Ethnic white centrism, nationalism and extreme right wing views. The movement is based on economic self sufficiency via hyper indivualism. Also, anchroism.

Those are all part of Facism. The Alt Right in the US is just as much a dialectic of ideas as all of history.

While Richard Spencer may not be Benito II; Electric Boogaloo, the spine of his ideology stems from Facism in the 20th century.

So yes.

[Deleted]

Hmm...

Low education, high unemployment, fundamentalist religious beliefs, xenophobic attitudes towards foreigners.

Which group am I describing?

Both would be my guess.

[Muadiib]

This post is super ironic with your user name given how heavily inspired Dune and the Fremen were by Islam.

It has a little inspiration, true, as well as other more palatable influences. I still like the film though, albeit that is sci-fi fantasy, the reality is not so enjoyable. As much as I hate Islam (not Muslim's) it's still a fascinating religion, I've done my research unlike most.

I confess I was probably wrong about Fascism, I'm much more knowledgeable about religion and the spiritual tbh, so sorry for my pride. I think the current left is increasingly fascist though, all the signs are there.

Lastly I was infracted for speaking badly about a totalitarian ideology that is only 30% religion (aka Islam) and also for "nonsense conspiracies", I hate conspiracy theories but a few are actually true. Like the left/socialist take over of the west for example, another is the increasingly successful attempt of Islam to infilitrate and slowly take over the west enabled by the useful idiots on the left.

I could also go into the ultimate conspiracy of all, which is Satan and his dominion but I suspect this is the wrong place for that, it's a shame because you'd think people that play a high fantasy mmo like WoW would perhaps be at least a little open to the reality of the supernatural, maybe it has the opposite effect and causes people to think it's only fantasy, one trip to certain parts of Africa would quickly destroy that line of thinking.

[Aurrora]

I barely see some people claim all the right wingers are fascists(both US parties are facists? lolwut?). Is this a new strawman?

Considering Antifa show up for any Republican event they must think that all right wingers are fascists right?

San Jose last year. Attendees of a Republican rally were stalked and beaten as they left. No KKK, no Neo-Nazis, no White Supremacists. Just regular Republicans being beaten in the streets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CytcX2uG5-s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozbg4qCSa1Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPOxX_8H2s4
This one is actual gold, African American Trump supporter laying down a prophecy on the thugs.

Who actually says all right wingers are fascists?

Antifa?

[Kaleredar]

I think this post not only /threads this, but also /threads and TL;DRs literally every political post until the entire system changes.

This is Politics in 2017. You're either a SJW/BLM/Feminazi or a Fascist/Nazi/Racist. If you're neither (like a sensible human being), you're seen as the opposing side to both sides.



Any person on the crazed-left side. Anyone on the far ends of the spectrum of course are not of sound mind people to begin with.

So let me get this straight...

EVERYONE on the left is saying EVERYONE on the right is a fascist?


...aren't you one of the people saying that EVERYONE that's in X group is doing something?