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  1. #221
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    For what reason?
    He can't be bothered to explain. "Google it" is as far his argument goes.

    I dunno I'm kinda enjoying watching the left go full nutjob. Trump getting elected is the gift that giving.
    Who is he going to fire next? So much winning.

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    So, if people are free to talking openly about genocide, what's the problem with pro-rape and pro-paedophila speech?

    This isn't even a slippery slope, genocide is already the bottom of the slope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    You're acteally saying Hitler and his ilk did not want to commit genocide on the jews/blacks/gays?
    Given this forum's crowd, I wouldn't doubt that's what actually being said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurin View Post
    You know, we could sit here and debate what could have been or could happen. Or we can look at what actually happens when a country gous full reta....sorry, full socialsm.
    Full anything is not workable, because it would require perfect humans to cooperate perfectly to a perfect system. Same reason pure capitalism never worked and was never used because the flaws are too obvious. Some people are just too scummy to participate to a free legal market without attempting to cheat, hence our form of capitalism will always be ultra monitored by the government and regulation to protect interest outside of the market itself and socialist safety net to protect the smaller players. One pure system to rule them all is a fiction. The correct answer simply is why not use everything at once: A little bit of authority, a little bit of socialism, a little bit of capitalism and a little bit of freedom.
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  5. #225
    If communists have free speech so should nazis

  6. #226
    Quote Originally Posted by zealo View Post
    Given this forum's crowd, I wouldn't doubt that's what actually being said.
    There's good people on many sides. Many sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radeghost View Post
    If communists have free speech so should nazis
    The kind of communist that goes around promoting murder of the rich should also not be accepted, same goes for any nazi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    You're acteally saying Hitler and his ilk did not want to commit genocide on the jews/blacks/gays?
    It's a fairly common argument in Nazi apologist circles that's been going around for a long time. The "Final Solution" was literally the final solution because Hitler really just wanted to deport all the Jews to Madagascar or something, but those durn Allies made it too hard for him to fight a war of freedom AND send the Jews on a nice tropical vacation, so he just HAD to kill them all.

    It's total bullshit to be sure.
    Human progress isn't measured by industry. It's measured by the value you place on a life.

    Just, be kind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurin View Post
    I'm sorry. I thought since you where giving advice to confused people, maybe I should too..
    I think you're the one who is confused about my ideology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    You're acteally saying Hitler and his ilk did not want to commit genocide on the jews/blacks/gays?
    Why don't you answer my question instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    He can't be bothered to explain. "Google it" is as far his argument goes.


    Who is he going to fire next? So much winning.
    But I don't even like communism, its odd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radeghost View Post
    If communists have free speech so should nazis
    And ISIS supporters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Val-Talesh View Post
    Why don't you answer my question instead?
    The nazis committed genocide on all sorts of people, are you going to deny that? I don't care what you 'think' they did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tijuana View Post
    Sorry, I thought this was a discussion forum, not your tree house boys club.
    No my apologies, I thought things that were obvious didn't need to be discussed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurin View Post
    Yeah, only good communists are accepted! The ones that burn down peoples property, beat up police officers and stab police horses in the neck.

    That police horse was lookin at me funny he asked for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurin View Post
    Yeah, only good communists are accepted! The ones that burn down peoples property, beat up police officers and stab police horses in the neck.

    [IMG]https://cdn.milo.yiannopoulos.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/800-x-419-Canvas-192-759x419.png[MG]

    You really love to read into stuff that does not exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurin View Post
    Here is a book you should consider reading:

    You realize that's essentially a propaganda piece, not a historical work, right? Even some of the co-authors have publicly disassociated with the primary editor (Courtois) because he misconstrued and exaggerated the work they provided him with for the book.

    It also includes in those numbers deaths by famine as well as deliberate murders, just to pad the numbers. And then fails to make a comparable analysis of, say, democratic capitalism to compare the numbers to.

    Which I don't have to do; Noam Chomsky already did, here; http://spectrezine.org/global/chomsky.htm

    In India, between 1917 and 1979, over 100 million deaths, just there, as much to blame on Democratic Capitalism as the 100 million the Black Book blames on Communism. And tens of millions more, since 1979. And that's just India, and we can definitely expand that further.

    If you apply the same methodology to "Democratic Capitalism" as the Black Book applies to Communism, then Democratic Capitalism has a far higher death toll. Which isn't me saying Democratic Capitalism is "worse". I'm saying the book's methodology is fucking stupid and deliberately misleading.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurin View Post
    What!! Are you accused of being a communist on this forum for speaking up for said groups right to protest?

    The nerve of some people on this forum...
    I really have no idea what you're even going on about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurin View Post
    Well, See how far you get in society as a openly pedophile/rapist then.
    And yet, genocidal is somehow accepted?

  20. #240
    Quote Originally Posted by Radeghost View Post
    If communists have free speech so should nazis
    1. What communists?
    2. Killing people isn't a core part of communism.

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