Why Even Nazis Deserve Free Speech

[BajPally]

Actually it is, if your cause having indecent images of children on your pc

And that's called possessing child pornography.
It would be legal to hold a pedophile rally, no matter how disgusting would it be, because pedophilia is a mental illness, which is not against the law.
Acting on their urges is the only thing that's punishable.

[JohnBrown1917]

Other countries have protection of freedom of speech in their own constitution.

Limited, yes.
They all have laws against incitement.

[Sunseeker]

Just for the record, are we now at the point in this forum where it becomes debatable whether being a Nazi makes you a bad person?
Because that's what this statement implies.

Nazis are the scum of society, watch some Holocaust footage and tell me again how supporting this is acceptable.

THANK YOU.

We know what Nazis did. We know what people who choose to be Nazis want to do. There are no "good Nazis".

[Deleted]

No you are not. You can oppose Nazis and still don't think that we need to silence them.

Then why the Americans were the main supporters of Denazification, term created in the Pentagon in 1943?

[Livnthedream]

Did you even saw the Prequels? Palpatine was based on Adolf Hitler's rise to power, manipulating the wars to go from chancellor to emperor through democratic way. Heck, the Jedi Purge can be compared to the Night of the Long Knives.

There are parallels, but Lucas pulled from many sources for Palpatine. If you go by the original scripts it is much closer to Caesar. There wasn't strong tie to Hitler until new cannon, rather than the old EU. And much of that was due to Disney dumbshittery.

[zorkuus]

No you are not. You can oppose Nazis and still don't think that we need to silence them.

Does the same apply to ISIS?

There are parallels, but Lucas pulled from many sources for Palpatine. If you go by the original scripts it is much closer to Caesar. There wasn't strong tie to Hitler until new cannon, rather than the old EU. And much of that was due to Disney dumbshittery.

Still doesn't make your little meme any less ironic given the context. It's like shooting yourself in the foot.

[Machismo]

There is no such thing as a 'nice nazi'.

People are not entitled to baseless and stupid opinions.

People are entitled to their stupid opinions. It doesn't matter if they are all assholes, they should still have the freedom of speech.

[BajPally]

Yes, the idealogy came from Hitler, are we done here?

Then you are objectively wrong. The natsoc ideology predates Hitler.
But keep trying to desperately hide your double standards where one ideology that was practiced by mass murderers is okay but the other is not.

[Elegiac]

There are parallels, but Lucas pulled from many sources for Palpatine. If you go by the original scripts it is much closer to Caesar. There wasn't strong tie to Hitler until new cannon, rather than the old EU. And much of that was due to Disney dumbshittery.

The prequels were poorly written pieces of shit that aren't good cinema let alone a decent proxy for human behaviour. Using them as an 'example' doesn't strengthen your argument.

[Ehrenpanzer]

The former gets you charged under section 319(2). The latter gets you charged under section 318 and/or section 264.

In Canada yes, where free speech has always been sort of a murky thing. America is a different story

[Livnthedream]

Actually, he used the political instability he caused by starting the war with the Confederacy to get the Senate to confer "temporary" absolute power to the Chancellor.

Then used his army of brainwashed soldiers to eleminate most of his political and ideological enemies.

You are bad at Star Wars.

And those political machinations were through darkside bullshitery. As the Jedi Council blatantly comments on.

[Elegiac]

People are entitled to their stupid opinions. It doesn't matter if they are all assholes, they should still have the freedom of speech.

No, they aren't. Opinions which are baseless and stupid deserve to be mocked and not given equal footing with substantiated opinions.

[Livnthedream]

You are bad at comebacks.

It wasn't a "comeback". Stop shitposting.

[BajPally]

Just for the record, are we now at the point in this forum where it becomes debatable whether being a communist makes you a bad person?
Because that's what this statement implies.
Communists are the scum of society, watch some Gulag footage and tell me again how supporting this is acceptable.

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[Machismo]

Then you are a useful idiot. Silent on the sides while the Nazis spread their disease.

You are closer to being a Nazi and a fascist than I am. Take some time, and think about it.

I never said to be silent, did I? You are a fucking liar. I said to photograph every single one of them, and let the world know exactly who they are. Plaster their personal information for everyone to see, and threaten to boycott every single employer who keeps them on staff. That's not silence. I'm not going to resort to authoritarianism in order to stop authoritarians.

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No, they aren't. Opinions which are baseless and stupid deserve to be mocked and not given equal footing with substantiated opinions.

They should be mocked. They should not be forcibly silenced.

[Vyxn]

Then you are a nazi supporter.

If you are not willing to silence them, you are supporting them. There was a war about this.

how is acting like a Nazi using the same tactics Nazi used to silence others not make you one ?
you know the first thing Nazis did to the Jews? silenced them took away their right to assemble and used the same excuse you using now because they were evil and a threat. Jews needed to be silenced not be allowed to gather in large crowds because them being a threat

[Deleted]

There are parallels, but Lucas pulled from many sources for Palpatine. If you go by the original scripts it is much closer to Caesar. There wasn't strong tie to Hitler until new cannon, rather than the old EU. And much of that was due to Disney dumbshittery.

The Prequels were written by Lucas and has nothing to do with the Disney Cannon. You really don't know Star Wars.

[Pannonian]

Then you are objectively wrong. The natsoc ideology predates Hitler.
But keep trying to desperately hide your double standards where one ideology that was practiced by mass murderers is okay but the other is not.

If that is "objectively wrong", then I'm sure you can give us a name and a source confirming your theory?

[Sunseeker]

People are entitled to their stupid opinions. It doesn't matter if they are all assholes, they should still have the freedom of speech.

Nazi-ism is not just a "stupid opinion". It is an ideology of hate, violence and death. There is a very obvious difference that is apparently beyond your ability to grasp.

[Ahovv]

Does the same apply to ISIS?

I would argue in the affirmative.

Let a bunch of radical Muslims say their crazy shit, so long as they are not openly calling for murder etc.