Argus is closer than our moon(s)?

[huth]

If light and radiation and matter (ie:ships, demons) can go through the portal then you'd think we'd be experiencing gravitational effects from Argus too then.

I mean, as long as we're trying to rationalize it here lol.

Portals have filters on them to control what can go through and what can't. Removing the liquid filter on a portal made underwater is a bad idea.

[Lochton]

A booboo implies a mistake, he knew exactly what he was doing.

I know but most Illidan do, is considered shit by many. Haha. The fact that we haven't had more often attacks is amazing. The door is open, the Legion is technically able to cruise through.

[tss]

Do people really think it's anything more than A. a lazy mistake or B. some ridiculous limitation like a skybox only having 4 textures or something

[procne]

It was something I did in 10 seconds to get the basic idea across. If you want to be nitpicky, feel free to draw a more accurate picture.

It's not a matter of inaccurate picture.
Kokolums simply pointed out the weak points of your theory.

[Tartys]

The stars align! Fear their portents!

[Benomatic]

Is it going away after this expansion though? I goddamn well hope so!!!

[Trickname]

People throwing "mistake" around a lot in here. That implies they intended to do something but made a blunder when doing so. The reality is probably that a lot less effort was intentionally put into Argus showing in the sky than people are making out.

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I didn't know the thing with the portal. I thought he pulled the planet towards Azeroth. That shit is never explained.

[frogger237]

If light and radiation and matter (ie:ships, demons) can go through the portal then you'd think we'd be experiencing gravitational effects from Argus too then.

I mean, as long as we're trying to rationalize it here lol.

The laws of physics are different in Azeroth which is why a gnome tank can take a hit from a 200 foot tall monster and not be obliterated or at the very least thrown 2000 miles.

[huth]

Physics kinda lose meaning when you're dealing with a blatantly magic object like this portal.

I didn't know the thing with the portal. I thought he pulled the planet towards Azeroth. That shit is never explained.

It's not explained, but shown. The post-KJ cinematic makes it pretty clear that Illidan is opening a giant portal, not shoving planets around.

[procne]

I didn't know the thing with the portal. I thought he pulled the planet towards Azeroth. That shit is never explained.

Actually, it might have been as you said - the whole planet was "portaled" and the portal was closed. I imagine that if we saw Argus through the portal then we would see the portal itself and the space around Argus as well. Note that on the screens from Argus (http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/...TR-Build-24473) you can't see the portal anywhere either.

Or, as Trickname suggested, Blizzard simply didn't think too much about it and "forgot" to draw the portal.

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It's not explained, but shown. The post-KJ cinematic makes it pretty clear that Illidan is opening a giant portal, not shoving planets around.

And the portal could have been created big enough and "moved over" the planet.

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It's not explained, but shown. The post-KJ cinematic makes it pretty clear that Illidan is opening a giant portal, not shoving planets around.

True, but I thought that portal just brought them back. When you look in the sky now, you don't see a portal, you just see the planet.

Actually, it might have been as you said - the whole planet was "portaled" and the portal was closed. I imagine that if we saw Argus through the portal then we would see the portal itself and the space around Argus as well. Note that on the screens from Argus (http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/...TR-Build-24473) you can't see the portal anywhere either.

Or, as Trickname suggested, Blizzard simply didn't think too much about it and "forgot" to draw the portal.

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And the portal could have been created big enough and "moved over" the planet.

Or that. I really don't know.

[huth]

No, it's an open portal. Otherwise tidal forces would be ripping Argus and Azeroth apart right now. If they don't collide first.

The portal itself isn't visible, but he is never shown closing it, and nobody does anything to bring Argus through.

[Army Dreamer]

If you can see it, your eye receives electromagnetic field oscillations - a light, photons. It would be reasonable to presume that gravity also passed through the portal the same way. With that effective distance between the two planets the tidal force should be huge, resulting in a tearing apart the Azeroth's planet crust. Volcanoes, earthquakes, tsunamis. GG Azeroth.

That was the KJ's secret plan. Good job Illidan.

[druenos]

If light and radiation and matter (ie:ships, demons) can go through the portal then you'd think we'd be experiencing gravitational effects from Argus too then.

I mean, as long as we're trying to rationalize it here lol.

Well while you are at it, try rationalizing magic, people turning into cats and bears, and animals that can talk lol

[procne]

No, it's an open portal. Otherwise tidal forces would be ripping Argus and Azeroth apart right now. If they don't collide first.

The portal itself isn't visible, but he is never shown closing it, and nobody does anything to bring Argus through.

I think you are trying to apply too much real world physics to a fantasy world ruled by magic.

The portal is visible, you can see it pretty well on the cinematic. Of course we can assume that it grew so big that it's taking the whole sky so everything we see up there is the Argus' space.

Until blizzard confirms one of the versions we can only speculate.

[Adoxe]

You're all literally arguing about two .png files overlapping. There's no reason for it, it just happens because of the way the skybox works, they probably would never overlap if they recoded the whole thing from scratch but since Argus probably won't stick around in the skybox post 7.3, there was no reason to do anything but attach a png file.

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You're all literally arguing about two .png files overlapping. There's no reason for it, it just happens because of the way the skybox works, they probably would never overlap if they recoded the whole thing from scratch but since Argus probably won't stick around in the skybox post 7.3, there was no reason to do anything but attach a png file.

Overlapping .blp files you mean.

[procne]

You're all literally arguing about two .png files overlapping. There's no reason for it

Yes.

But practically every discussion about WoW is in its base a discussion about pixels or letters (story). And the whole forum, on which we are now, was created for such unreasonable discussions.

[huth]

If you can see it, your eye receives electromagnetic field oscillations - a light, photons. It would be reasonable to presume that gravity also passed through the portal the same way. With that effective distance between the two planets the tidal force should be huge, resulting in a tearing apart the Azeroth's planet crust. Volcanoes, earthquakes, tsunamis. GG Azeroth.

That was the KJ's secret plan. Good job Illidan.

Portals can be set to let solid matter, but not liquids, through. Letting them pass light but not gravity should be doable.