Canada's Trudeau Sounds Alarm About Illegal Immigrants

[Mafic]

Standards and difficulty of process are two entirely separate concepts here.

The US process isn't difficult when a lot of immigrants do not even have a high school education. In comparison, Canada puts a major emphasis on the education level of their immigrants.

So standards and process go hand in hand, because it is designed to filter certain applicants or open it up like a free for all.

[netherflame]

i don't agree refugee's from cuba didn't come though the proper channels but they had legit reasons to do it unlike any one trying to get into canada from america.

Nobody is arguing that they didn't have legit reasons, I really don't understand why people get so stuck on that. They wanted to come over which is fine, they had a reason which is also fine, they chose to not use the proper channels to do so, that isn't fine.

[Lionhearte0]

We can welcome everyone and still expect them to go through the proper channels.

So exactly Trump's platform from Day 1, then.

[Grapemask]

So exactly Trump's platform from Day 1, then.

Trump's platform has actually been expanded to "... and also the ones who go through the proper channels, we don't really want most of those ones either."

[Vapo]

racist canadians!

[Cthulhu 2020]

Trump's platform has actually been expanded to "... and also the ones who go through the proper channels, we don't really want most of those ones either."

Yeah, anyone who thinks Trump's position has been "We like legal immigrants, just not illegal ones!" hasn't been following what Trump has been doing with immigration.

[Lionhearte0]

Standards and difficulty of process are two entirely separate concepts here.

But there is a correlation between them. The higher standards Canada has prevents many applicants from even being considered. Therefore the system/process does not get as clogged and there are less issues and delays. Don't pretend that isn't the case.

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Yeah, anyone who thinks Trump's position has been "We like legal immigrants, just not illegal ones!" hasn't been following what Trump has been doing with immigration.

Within 1 post you suddenly became against higher standards? Really?

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Trump's platform has actually been expanded to "... and also the ones who go through the proper channels, we don't really want most of those ones either."

Higher standards of who we let in is within our right to decide.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Umm no according to the world you must have open borders or your racist xenophobes.

People are only called racists when their attempts to stop immigration are aimed solely at one ethnic group and one country.

More than half of illegal immigration in the US is from countries other than Mexico, and yet the Republicans keep pushing measures that would only curb illegal immigration from Mexico. And then they wonder why they get called racist...

And then when they're called out on this, they go "W-w-w-well, we want to... to stop illegal immigration from other countries too..." and then after saying this, they go back to pushing measures that would only stop Mexican immigrants.

It's pretty easy to spot disingenuous intentions from deplorables these days. They pretty much broadcast hypocrisy for all to see.

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Within 1 post you suddenly became against higher standards? Really?

Hahahaha, you think Trump has been trying to implement higher standards? You poor poor child.

He's cutting numbers, not increasing quality.

[Raptor With a Saber]

There are 100% people coming into Canada from the U.S. Trying to claim refugge because of trump. And they shouldn't be able to get refugge status.

They arent real americans anyways so they dont count. I still stand by the saying the U.S hasnt had a president since obama left. We are just dumb... thats it

[Lionhearte0]

People are only called racists when their attempts to stop immigration are aimed solely at one ethnic group and one country.

So, like, Canada focusing on illegal immigration from U.S., and from one ethnicity, Haitians?

Yeah, no. Canada is racist as fuck.

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He's cutting numbers, not increasing quality.

So then what's your issue with it?

[Mittens]

People are only called racists when their attempts to stop immigration are aimed solely at one ethnic group and one country.

More than half of illegal immigration in the US is from countries other than Mexico, and yet the Republicans keep pushing measures that would only curb illegal immigration from Mexico. And then they wonder why they get called racist...

And then when they're called out on this, they go "W-w-w-well, we want to... to stop illegal immigration from other countries too..." and then after saying this, they go back to pushing measures that would only stop Mexican immigrants.

It's pretty easy to spot disingenuous intentions from deplorables these days. They pretty much broadcast hypocrisy for all to see.

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Hahahaha, you think Trump has been trying to implement higher standards? You poor poor child.

He's cutting numbers, not increasing quality.

Uh? The RAISE is very much a copy of the Canadian immigration system but without the discrimination towards disabled people.

[Fudal]

The US has less land area than Canada and 10 times the population. So, until Canada is taking in at least 10 times the number of immigrants that we are then they have no reason to even mention immigration standards.

[Cthulhu 2020]

So then what's your issue with it?

Legal immigration has been a huge boon to our economy in place of falling birth rates. He's cutting legal immigration numbers by a lot.

Even illegal immigration contributes, albeit in much different ways. But people get their panties in a twist if you don't spend 5 years communicating back and forth with the US government on whether or not you can be a citizen, so we'll make people wait forever to find out if they can immigrate because imaginary lines in the sand are an important religion to worship.

[Tennis]

So Canada is against illegal immigration. It's funny because they condemn the US for it

Um no? The U.S. is a first world country and extremely rich. Handle your business and secure your borders. This is unacceptable.

[jackofwind]

So exactly Trump's platform from Day 1, then.

Except that's not at all what he expanded it to, so no. Not that.

[Cthulhu 2020]

So Canada is against illegal immigration. It's funny because they condemn the US for it

It's more like Canada condemns the idiotic, sensationalist, and xenophobic ways that the US is handling immigration.

Our president is considering a pardon for a sheriff who went around harassing and arresting latinos, even full legal citizens.

[Mormolyce]

So... he reinforces his country's welcome to immigrants and refugees, and said that illegal immigrants are a separate issue?

And that illegal immigration is... against the law? So... a complete tautology?

oh great, you're back.

And... not.

[fengosa]

So exactly Trump's platform from Day 1, then.

Minus the Mexicans are rapists part of course.

[Endus]

That isn't true.

Canada is very selective when it comes to immigration compared to US. It is much easier for a Canadian citizen to gain US citizenship than a US citizen to also gain Canadian citizenship.

This is why more Canadians have dual citizenship and winter homes in the US than US citizens having dual citizenship and summer homes in Canada.

There's also that we're discussing separate things, here.

Trudeau was saying we don't put up with illegal immigration. By comparison, the US does, and their economy relies upon it to a certain extent, for all the rhetoric against it. So that's illegal immigration.

What you're talking about is economic immigration, where people just want to move to Canada, to live and work. In which case, yeah, we screen applicants to be sure they'll likely be a benefit to Canada. Before anyone makes another dig about the disability thing, I strongly disagree with that if we're talking about dependents of someone who'd otherwise pass the bar.

And then there's the refugee system. Which has, broadly speaking, two forms. There's government sponsorship, which is what gets all the press, where we cherry-pick families and such from the refugee camps in Turkey and such, for ideally permanent resettlement to Canada; this isn't really a refugee program, it's a resettlement program. Beyond that, people can apply for asylum directly at our border entry points, or can be sponsored by a private family (two separate programs there, but generally similar in a lot of ways). In this case, we had people trying to claim asylum from living in the USA, which isn't going to get supported, since the US is fine. And if they wanted to stay despite that denial, they'd be illegal immigrants, which we don't support, hence Trudeau's comment.

Trying to boil any of this down to one single procedure/set of standards is just flat-out wrong.

[Lionhearte0]

Legal immigration has been a huge boon to our economy in place of falling birth rates. He's cutting legal immigration numbers by a lot.

So I take it you're Pro-Life?