Angela Merkel tells asylum seekers not to take holidays in their country of origin

[Trollhammer]

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Harsher measures should be taken against asylum seekers if they take a holiday in their country of origin, German Chancellor Angela Merkel said in an interview, in which she also said she had no regrets over her open-door refugee policy.

"Taking holidays in the country in which you are being persecuted is not on," she said in an interview with Welt am Sonntag, adding that it could be a reason to re-examine an asylum case.

This is a joke right? "I need asylum from my country, but I'll go back and visit there on holiday!"

[Wyrt]

Seems reasonable to remove their asylum status if they go home for holiday.

[Barnabas]

should be like that in every country.

[Miyagie]

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This is a joke right? "I need asylum from my country, but I'll go back and visit there on holiday!"

Germany is a free land and every refugee can do what he want to do.
You must be ratarded if you think that a refugee doing the same shit that we do on holidays, they go there to visit and help there family or mourn over the graves of there loved ones.

Keep it civil

[Deleted]

This just goes to show what a joke that woman and her 'policy' is. All she cares about is some more cheap labor and looking good, to hell with the consequences.

[zealo]

Just deport them if they try.

If they consider a vacation in a country they claim they fled because of "persecution" a good idea, chances they're economical migrants rather than refugees are quite high.

[Aeula]

This just goes to show what a joke that woman and her 'policy' is. All she cares about is some more cheap labor and looking good, to hell with the consequences.

This. She refuses to even admit she fucked up.

[turboether]

Using the host nations money to take a vacation back into a dangerous country you feared for your life to get away from. Deathwish or ulterior motive?

[Aggrophobic]

This just goes to show what a joke that woman and her 'policy' is. All she cares about is some more cheap labor and looking good, to hell with the consequences.

Say what?
How is this a bad thing? If you state that you need asylum becuase you can't go back to your country of origin and then go back anyway you might get you right to asylum removed.
Isn't that how it should work or?

[PL-Cibo]

This just goes to show what a joke that woman and her 'policy' is. All she cares about is some more cheap labor and looking good, to hell with the consequences.

Let me guess... you are american aren't you? You do realize we have collective contracts on every kind of work which defines money paid, legal security,insurance etc?
If we want to have cheap workers european companies outsource to poland/czech/ukraine etc. There, you still can dump salaries but in germany this will be hard. And at last, we don't need uneducated workers. To bring this to end let's look at the numbers, the germans are not only looking good, they have money, low crime, good industry and their populist noobs are where they belong, somewhere at the 5% mark. I understand your jealousy.

[Stormdash]

Germany is a free land and every refugee can do what he want to do.
You must be ratarded if you think that a refugee doing the same shit that we do on holidays, they go there to visit and help there family or mourn over the graves of there loved ones.

You clearly have no idea what the concept of "asylum" or of refugee status mean. If you feel safe to and/or are even capable of going back there -- you by definition are not in need of either asylum or refuge, and should be immediately disqualified by such status. Honestly, even stating a present intention or willingness to do so that isn't conditioned on some future change in government or circumstances in that country should immediately disqualify, because, again, if you aren't afraid to or cannot safely go home, you are NOT an asylee or refugee.

[Miyagie]

You clearly have no idea what the concept of "asylum" or of refugee status mean. If you feel safe to and/or are even capable of going back there -- you by definition are not in need of either asylum or refuge, and should be immediately disqualified by such status. Honestly, even stating a present intention or willingness to do so that isn't conditioned on some future change in government or circumstances in that country should immediately disqualify, because, again, if you aren't afraid to or cannot safely go home, you are NOT an asylee or refugee.

And you have no concept what its mean to have family living in a warzone, that refugees are fucking brave for what they do.

[Serpha]

And you have no concept what its mean to have family living in a warzone, that refugees are fucking brave for what they do.

Leaving everyone behind, new meaning of a hero.

[Wildtree]

This just goes to show what a joke that woman and her 'policy' is. All she cares about is some more cheap labor and looking good, to hell with the consequences.

Why does it not surprise me that you can't comprehend that?
You certainly weren't overburdened with an abundance of intellect...

What she said makes 100% sense.
You apply for asylum, because you claim your country threatens your life. That's fine.
You going back to this country on vacation, defeats your initial claim = Status possibly revoked.

That's how it is for decades. That isn't even something new. That's the laws.

[Ozyorkbourne]

Germany is a free land and every refugee can do what he want to do.
You must be ratarded if you think that a refugee doing the same shit that we do on holidays, they go there to visit and help there family or mourn over the graves of there loved ones.

If it's safe enough for them to do that then they don't need refuge, since their country is safe enough to return to.

[Stormdash]

And you have no concept what its mean to have family living in a warzone, that refugees are fucking brave for what they do.

They aren't refugees if they can go home, even temporarily. They aren't asylees if they are willing to go home, even temporarily. Time to start calling widespread economic migration what it is.

[Najnaj]

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This is a joke right? "I need asylum from my country, but I'll go back and visit there on holiday!"

I have an acquaintance who is a refugee from Iran. He recently went on "holiday" to Iran to bury his father and was terrified the entire time that he would be arrested. Should he not have been allowed to go?

Did you think that refugees went back to Syria by the tens of thousands to lounge by the pool and drink pina coladas?

[Wildtree]

Germany is a free land

yes

and every refugee can do what he want to do.

No.
Asylants, just like any other resident/citizen has to abide by the laws.
And there's a set of laws that applies to these people especially.
Things like, not allowed to work, etc etc.

You must be ratarded if you think that a refugee doing the same shit that we do on holidays, they go there to visit and help there family or mourn over the graves of there loved ones

That part is only marginally relevant. Hence why Merkel said "could be a reason to re-examine an asylum case" and not "will lead to revoking the status".
It is a case by case issue, and depends entirely on the person's background.
Someone, as you said with family behind might do what you said. Someone who lost all their family has not so much reason.

Last but not least.. if you use cuss words to insult people, make sure you spell those words correctly lol

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If it's safe enough for them to do that then they don't need refuge, since their country is safe enough to return to.

Well, gotta be fair here too.. Some people might ignore the dangers and try to go back checking on loved ones.
Of course you're right too. But people do silly or dangerous things all the time. This is one of those things.

[Miyagie]

yes No.
Asylants, just like any other resident/citizen has to abide by the laws.
And there's a set of laws that applies to these people especially.
Things like, not allowed to work, etc etc.

That part is only marginally relevant. Hence why Merkel said "could be a reason to re-examine an asylum case" and not "will lead to revoking the status".
It is a case by case issue, and depends entirely on the person's background.
Someone, as you said with family behind might do what you said. Someone who lost all their family has not so much reason.

Last but not least.. if you use cuss words to insult people, make sure you spell those words correctly lol

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Well, gotta be fair here too.. Some people might ignore the dangers and try to go back checking on loved ones.
Of course you're right too. But people do silly or dangerous things all the time. This is one of those things.

Oh come on, isnt it obvious that iam trolling. "Refugees" doing holidays in a warzone, alone writing that gave me a little stroke.

[Deleted]

Makes sense, if you feel your home country is safe enough to holiday back too, its safe enough for you to go back and live there