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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
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    So Elder Scrolls but GOT....mite be interesting depends what all u can do in it.
    You know, I wish they would fix and finished all of their stuff first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pateuvasiliu View Post
    It sure is, but without an argument an opinion is worthless. Art may be subjective but it's almost universally agreed that Tolkien writes better fantasy than the Twilight chick.

    Name me a single character in Skyrim that comes close to the depth of the Bloody Baron, who was a mere side character.

    Then I'll pull Geralt, Ciri or Yennefer on you and all of Skyrim's characters combined aren't as complex as those three.
    Blood Baron has been one of my faviroute characters in recent memory but Skyrims strength isn't in it's story or it's characters.
    It's in it's sandbox play.

    In Skyrim, I can wield an axe in one hand, and a spell to raise the dead in my left. I can explore a large world, discover a small, yet intriguing plot in nearly every single cave, ruins or castle. I can be whatever I want and do anything I want, and Skyrim accomplishes this exquisitely. The replay-ability is practically infinite, made even more so with the mod friendly architecture of the software.

    I personally don't understand the comparison between the games. The Witcher is a true RPG. Skyrim is a sandbox with RPG elements. Both critically acclaimed and successful in their own right.

    We're yet to see what kind of game Bethesda will announce. If it's a sandbox in an ASOIAF world, then I think we're in for a treat. Create a character with a small plot to give it purpose, but thrust you into a world where you could travel the Seven Kingdoms and do what you want? Sounds like a potential winner.

    However, if it's story based, then I would have slight reservations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dispraise View Post
    I asked fans of the series years ago why I should give it a chance. I wanted to give it a fair shake. The number one answer I got from literally every single one of them: The sex scenes.

    Not the plot, the characters, the world, the action, or the intrigue. Nudity.

    That is why I have no interest in Game of Thrones.
    Those people sound like losers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pipboi View Post
    You sound like some pseudo-hipster who saw a video of Game of Thrones that showed a penis and made up your mind right then and there, based solely on that, that GoT is just porn because you're a super edgy hipster who doesn't like popular things. Wow you're so cool, cultured and unique trashing something you literally so clearly have no clue about. I bet you have a ton of friends who all get together to drink cheap craft beer, compete against to see who can vape the hardest and argue over who hates popular things the most.
    I think you damn near read my mind. That's hilarious. Thank you. Cheers.

    OT: I'd be curious to see what they do to make it not just feel like another entry in the Elder Scrolls library. Which isn't to say that would be awful. I suppose I wonder because it would make sense to differentiate it from say...whatever ES VI ends up playing like.

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    If its just Skyrim with a GoT skin I'm pretty sure there's mods out there for that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bennett View Post
    Typically, calling Bethesda games bad doesn't make sense when Bethesda holds some of the highest selling/ most popular titles on the planet
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

    The quality of their games has gone down since Skyrim/Fallout 4. Skyrim is bad for a reason I mentioned in an earlier post while Fallout 4 is bad because the writing is beyond terrible and they've taken away the role-playing elements in favor of streamlined garbage for the simple-minded masses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dispraise View Post
    I asked fans of the series years ago why I should give it a chance. I wanted to give it a fair shake. The number one answer I got from literally every single one of them: The sex scenes.

    Not the plot, the characters, the world, the action, or the intrigue. Nudity.

    That is why I have no interest in Game of Thrones.
    Those people are the reason EVERY new series has some form of sex appeal in it at the start. And I mean EVERY new show or whatever on ANY channel. Don't believe me? go find any pilot episode of a series aimed at a demographic in the young adult to more mature range and find the inevitable scene with half naked women in it. Like a strip club, model photo shoot, fashion show, beach montage, etc.

    People act liek they've never seen boobs before in a TV series... but that's kind of HBO's thing. They can, and DO, have that as a selling point of their series while other channels can only show cleavage or skimpy outfits. Unless they have a thing for a certain performer, it's a pointless reason to pick a show.

    Personally, I find the multiple plots running concurrently is the big draw. Add in the fight scenes and how they go out on some of the costumes/props... it's really something that's a cut above some people's attempts at similar series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennard View Post
    I think you damn near read my mind. That's hilarious. Thank you. Cheers.

    OT: I'd be curious to see what they do to make it not just feel like another entry in the Elder Scrolls library. Which isn't to say that would be awful. I suppose I wonder because it would make sense to differentiate it from say...whatever ES VI ends up playing like.
    I'd think a change to the setting, land mass, houses and shit would be enough for most people. wouldn't really need to go further... people that matter would notice and the people who don't would still confuse it for Zelda regardless of what is present.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bennett View Post
    I'm not talking about opinion, if something is the highest selling, then it's the most successful. I really like both Skyrim and Fallout 4, sorry if I'm too simple minded for such an intellectual superior as yourself
    You said it, not me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derah View Post
    Not all of them. Telltale's version actually is pretty damned good.
    All the GoT games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bennett View Post
    I'm not talking about opinion, if something is the highest selling, then it's the most successful. I really like both Skyrim and Fallout 4, sorry if I'm too simple minded for such an intellectual superior as yourself
    My main gripe with this is that they are dumbing down some of the most amazing franchises ever created. The older games in these franchises were masterpieces in world building, character customization and writing, and they just traded all that for easy to digest writing and boring/one dimensional characters. This is not a bad thing for casual/new players, but it makes fans of the franchise sad.

    Skyrim is the CoD of RPG's. CoD isn't a bad franchise, but it is easily digestable, and not too memorable since CoD MW2. I say the same about Skyrim: Big, beautiful, but generic, and forgetabble.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Dracula View Post
    That's like saying as long as FF14 is around there won't be any more Final Fantasy games.

    Oh wait.
    Seeing how each final fantasy is build around each one being different and rarely does the lore tie together....Your example is poor.

    The ES lore ties together in each game, Why make another ES when u can just make a expansion to ESO.
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    I see no reason for this game. Is it just going to be a political story based game? As someone who hasn't watched much of the show, is there even all that much combat?

    I feel like this could be a point and click adventure game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bennett View Post
    It's weird, I thought you would reply exactly that. My point is if you're in the minority (as in someone who doesn't think bethesda makes some of the most successful and therefore best games) it's probably not clever to call all the people who like it simple-minded. it's just not true
    Successful =/= best. I know that's a tough concept for someone like you to grasp but being financially successful does not have any bearing on a game's quality. So far I haven't seen anyone prove me wrong about that and you're definitely no exception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathandira View Post
    I see no reason for this game. Is it just going to be a political story based game? As someone who hasn't watched much of the show, is there even all that much combat?

    I feel like this could be a point and click adventure game.
    There is quite a bit of combat in the series but the vast majority of it is large scale battles. It's why I think if anything an RTS or strategy/RPG hybrid game could possibly work

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    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    well, that's what it is. it's some old pervert's shitty fanfic.

    HBO of course makes it even worse, cause they have all the maturity of a highschool boy's locker room.
    How is it a fanfic when he's built the world and characters himself?

    ASoIaF has its fair share of problems, and its certainly not the pinnacle of modern fantasy writing, but your synopsis just makes you seem ignorant. Here's betting you've never even picked up one of the books.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackofwind View Post
    How is it a fanfic when he's built the world and characters himself?

    ASoIaF has its fair share of problems, and its certainly not the pinnacle of modern fantasy writing, but your synopsis just makes you seem ignorant. Here's betting you've never even picked up one of the books.
    I'd say the majority of people have only seen the TV series. There are quite a few deviations, especially as you move on later in the series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathandira View Post
    I see no reason for this game. Is it just going to be a political story based game? As someone who hasn't watched much of the show, is there even all that much combat?

    I feel like this could be a point and click adventure game.
    There is but its really not a core theme of the show or series. Well maybe now that its starting to wrap up but its armies on armies going at each other. Most of the interpersonal problems are handled with politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    Seeing how each final fantasy is build around each one being different and rarely does the lore tie together....Your example is poor.

    The ES lore ties together in each game, Why make another ES when u can just make a expansion to ESO.
    Because ESO is set thousands of years prior to the main game series. Whereas the Main games are continuations of the World after prior events. I.e. Morrowind and Oblivion setting up plot points in Skyrim.

    Prequels tend to be boring on a Story level at times since you already know where it will end up if it has any important tie ins to the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathandira View Post
    I see no reason for this game. Is it just going to be a political story based game? As someone who hasn't watched much of the show, is there even all that much combat?

    I feel like this could be a point and click adventure game.
    There is constant fighting for basically most of the series. the Main characters tend to only be part of the larger battles.

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    How many people who know of GoT don't know about Elder Scrolls or at-least Skyrim? Might have potential as it's got the hype factor alone by existing if it's really a thing...

    I know I'd play it and tying Elder Scrolls lore into GoT wouldn't be that difficult in the first place.

    Either do it tell-tale style and keep it GoT or put Elder Scrolls in the GoT universe with new story. Playing in the setting would be a blast skyrim style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thewallofsleep View Post
    Those people sound like losers.
    That was my assessment as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by mickybrighteyes View Post
    Those people are the reason EVERY new series has some form of sex appeal in it at the start.
    And that's why I don't just simply watch a series to begin with. Slogging through that faff to see if it's worth watching is a chore. When I ask a collective of fans and to a fault every single one of them lists the sex scenes, it gives an unfavorable impression.

    And the backlash against that impression of the show in the years since don't really help either. Downplaying the criticism by saying "the nudity waned after the first few seasons" or "the newer seasons are amazing" only really says to me "you will not enjoy roughly the first half of the series", while still failing to answer the original question of why I might enjoy it after that. It's not like I'm going to just jump into season 4 or later and try to piece together what I missed on the assurance that "it's awesome".

    To your credit, you both acknowledged the criticism and provided a real answer for why I should give it a chance. You and @Derah on the last page. Cheers to you both.
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