Optimal mount collecting?

[Deleted]

Greetings,

so despite being a mount collector I'm still not certain I understand how the tracking works for the achievements. Currently I'm at 270 mounts. It occurred to me to check my Paladin who has tailoring and see if he had all the carpet mounts. He has 3, the flying, the frost and the magnificent carpet.

1. If the achievement tracks mounts usable by a single character, and those carpets require tailoring to use them, why isn't my Paladin +3 over my Main Warrior who doesn't have tailoring? Perhaps the counter is counting those carpets and without them I'd be 267?

2. If I get the Creeping Carpet would that increase my counter by +1? (When logging into my Paladin)

3. Also since I'm making a thread about professions, mount collecting and Paladins: is Paladin + Tailoring still the way to go for mount collecting? I wouldn't be surprised if I was wrong here but my thinking is that tailoring has the most mounts that actually require a profession in order to use them (usable by a single character, in other words), while Engineering has two mounts that would be unusable by all my other characters that aren't engineers and that's the flying+turbo charged flying machine. (I think)

So if I'm correct that's +4 mounts that require tailoring and only 2 mounts that require engineering?

Help much appreciated. Thanks.

[Deleted]

Engineer can also build 2 rocket mounts

Jewelcrafting can even build 5 (panthers)

Other than that, yeah..it is a bit confusing, because according to my "collection tab I have a lot more mounts than according to my "acheivement tracker". But the collection tab indeed seems to count everything and both factions

Indeed, it's pretty confusing. I never look at the collection tab number though as it does seem to count both factions and it seems to vary a lot. In my mind that collection tab number is a mess so I only ever look at the achievement tracker.

None of those panthers require jewel crafting to use though, so it wouldn't matter which character I got them on, if you see what I mean.

Edit: My point being that the achievement tracks usable by a single character so I just want to double check that tailoring (most mounts that require the profession to use them) + Paladin (for the class mounts) would be the best way to increase my count since again, it's usable by a single character.

[Shadochi]

Isn't the optimal setup to go with Paladin + Tailoring + Engineering because Tailoring and engineering have the most mounts that need the profession in order to use. Not sure why you're asking Tailoring Vs Engineering then since you can have both. And the JC mounts you can just craft them on any char/buy from AH and they'll still count on your Pally

[Deleted]

Isn't the optimal setup to go with Paladin + Tailoring + Engineering because Tailoring and engineering have the most mounts that need the profession in order to use. Not sure why you're asking Tailoring Vs Engineering then since you can have both. And the JC mounts you can just craft them on any char/buy from AH and they'll still count on your Pally

You make a good point which shows I've never been massivley into professions. I forgot I could have 2 primary crafting professions on the same character.

Also as I said, I wasn't wondering about JC'ing for the very reason you stated; it doesn't matter what character I get them on so it's not relevant to the main question of the thread. (Having JC on my Paladin wouldn't have any bonus to my counter like having Eng/Tailoring would)

Edit: I presume then If I got Engineering on my Paladin then it'd be +2 to the counter because of the two flying machines?

Edit: I also wonder if unlearning tailoring would lose me -3. This system is annoyingly complicated.

Edit: So I just went and got +375 Engineering on the Paladin so that character could use the two flying machines. My mount counter on the achievement did not increase by +2 from 270 when it really should have.

[Schizoide]

Try actually using those mounts. Sometimes it takes awhile to update-- even a weekly server restart. They should definitely count.

[Deleted]

Try actually using those mounts. Sometimes it takes awhile to update-- even a weekly server restart. They should definitely count.

I mounted both before I looked at the counter. I relogged and everything.

[Serissa]

Edit: So I just went and got +375 Engineering on the Paladin so that character could use the two flying machines. My mount counter on the achievement did not increase by +2 from 270 when it really should have.

Profession mounts counts for achievement regardless if you can use them or not.

[Deleted]

Profession mounts counts for achievement regardless if you can use them or not.

Is there a source for that? It'd be good if that were true but it's strange for Blizzard not to point out that's the case and in fact suggest otherwise with 'usable on a single character'. I mean, I didn't get the leatherworking wolf because I couldn't use it on my Paladin as he had tailoring and now engineering. You're saying if I had a character with leather working I'd get +1?

Edit: Can confirm that what you said, unfortunatley, doesn't seem to be true.



Edit: Then again WoWHead comments do seem to suggest this GM is wrong. I don't understand why they have 'usable by a single character' beside the achievement but it doesn't have to be usable if it's a profession mount. Very inconsistent.

[Deleted]

You make something simple very complicated.

Basicly every mount counts unless its from the opposite faction, a gladiator mount or class specific (and even there the new class quests do count).

I'm yet to try getting a new profession mount that my Paladin can't use to see if it does indeed get +1, but I hope what you're saying is correct. The GM would disagree with you, however. In what way does every mount count mean 'usable by a single character?' Why would they put that there if it's simply not true?

Edit: '(and even there the new class quests do count)' you're saying that getting a 7.2 hunter mount would count?

[Schizoide]

I wasn't aware that profession mounts counted without the profession. Interesting. Also interesting that the 7.2 class mounts count, when other class mounts don't. It's just all so inconsistent. Annoying.

Paladins aren't 3 ahead; DKs and Warlocks also get 2 class mounts. Paladins do have the argent mount though, so they're +1.

[Serissa]

Paladins aren't 3 ahead; DKs and Warlocks also get 2 class mounts. Paladins do have the argent mount though, so they're +1.

They are +3 ahead because other classes (like hunter or rogue) have 0 class specific mounts. If you say Pala = +1, DK = 0, then what about other classes? 2 behind? That sounds silly. So normal classes = 0, DK = +2 and Pala = +3. Simple, no?

Edit: I mean when comparing something you shouldn't compare one exception to another. Compare exception to regular case.

[Loveliest]

Are you guys sure the 7.2 class mounts count? I didn't think my alts' mount counted on my main.

If they all count, it's cool, loads of mounts in there (20!). If they don't, paladin & rogue get 4 each.

[Shauren]

This is simple - the counter you see on achievement displays the highest value for all your characters
Lets say you have 267 mounts on your DK. Next you learn some mount that has no restrictions. What now happens is that DK counter is at 268 but achievement still shows 270 because its higher. When you log on your paladin it will increase to 271.
Another thing to keep in mind - the counter never decreases so if you unlearn a profession, it will simply not increment until you reach 271 again (with or without profession/class mounts)

[Deleted]

This is simple - the counter you see on achievement displays the highest value for all your characters
Lets say you have 267 mounts on your DK. Next you learn some mount that has no restrictions. What now happens is that DK counter is at 268 but achievement still shows 270 because its higher. When you log on your paladin it will increase to 271.
Another thing to keep in mind - the counter never decreases so if you unlearn a profession, it will simply not increment until you reach 271 again (with or without profession/class mounts)

That part is simple, what I actually created the thread about isn't.

[mazuno]

Are you guys sure the 7.2 class mounts count? I didn't think my alts' mount counted on my main.

If they all count, it's cool, loads of mounts in there (20!). If they don't, paladin & rogue get 4 each.

I'm also interested in knowing... at the moment I only have paladin and warrior at max level, but does that suggest that I can easily increase my achievement counter just by doing the class mounts on other classes as well? seems really strange if they all sum up

[Shauren]

That part is simple, what I actually created the thread about isn't.

What I said explains everything from your main post
1. yes, you are at 267 without the carpets (unlearning tailoring would not put you down to 267 but you will have to learn 4 other mounts to see the counter move from 270 to 271)
2. yes, if your palading has tailoring
3. also a yes - paladin (2 old class mounts, 4 new class mounts and argent tournament extra mount), combined with tailoring (4 carpets) + engineering (2 turbo thingies) OR leatherworking (wod wolf + legion moose)

ps. wowhead filter for profession mounts http://www.wowhead.com/mount-items?f...99;11;0#0+13-2

I'm also interested in knowing... at the moment I only have paladin and warrior at max level, but does that suggest that I can easily increase my achievement counter just by doing the class mounts on other classes as well? seems really strange if they all sum up

They don't sum

[Deleted]

This is simple - the counter you see on achievement displays the highest value for all your characters

No the counter shows the number of mounts the char that is logged in can use from all the mounts you have.

dont make something simple complicated