[7.3 Spoilers] Is Turalyon the first living immortal human?

[Triggered Fridgekin]

Time dilation doesn't apply here though. Time dilation alters amount of time one experiences relatively other objects, but the dilated object will still experience the passage of time as if nothing is wrong.

It doesn't stop your aging for 1000 years.

That's assuming they're actually a thousand years old though. Which calendar are they using for reference? They could be sunk in to an area of space where a hundred years to them is what we'd consider a year much like how the Wine in Suramar ages faster in storage relative to the space around it.

Your body will still naturally age but the way you perceive time could dramatically shift. I'm not exactly sure how long they were gone for but Turalyon looks about as old as we would expect him to be.

[Vakna]

Alleria, who is the one that says that she has been wondering what will SHE say to her son, has indeed lived for more than 1000 years. She is an elf, you know.

You know making a baby requires more than just the female right? She needs to have banged Turalyon 1k years ago to have created that child.

[Rhlor]

aegwynn I think

[Aquamonkey]

If he was immortal he probably wouldn't be aged like he is. His lifespan was just extended

Velen is immortal and he looks super aged.

Aegwynn did more or less the same thing with magic on Azeroth even, though (a bit less since she passed majority of her powers to Medivh at around 800 and started aging faster, even more after she came back from her lost to Sargeras-Medivh). Turalyon is late to claim the tittle.

Aegwynn doesn't look old at all in the comics.

Compare that to Khadgar in the comics.

[Lahis]

Velen is immortal and he looks super aged.


Aegwynn doesn't look old at all in the comics.

Compare that to Khadgar in the comics.

Aegwynn had no model, so the artist were free to choose her looks. Khadgar had been delegated that Old Wizard model from WoW Alpha, so comic artists had to reflect that.

When he finally got his own model, he looks much younger. No amount of "freshly shaven" explains that difference.

[Deleted]

Kadhgar may have gotten a fresher look back during the time he spent in the presence of the Naaru in Shattrath. If the light can give the undead their living bodies back by simply permeating them for some time and Elune can simply remove the Satyr-curse from demons, I don't think making Kadghar look a little younger than with his curse is too big a feat.
Turalyon may have been rendered ageless when he joined the army of the light at the age of about 50? It's not the first time this happened, even though it's the first time a Naaru would have done that. But if Nozdormu can do it, I don't know why the Naaru shouldn't be able to.
But we don't know for sure how and why and maybe they will still explain it, but maybe not. I don't think it's completely out of the question that he can be actual 1000 years old.

[Arrashi]

Given the fact that after xera gets blown to pieces his eyes lose their glow, chances are grandpa will start aging normally really soon.

[Aquamonkey]

Aegwynn had no model, so the artist were free to choose her looks. Khadgar had been delegated that Old Wizard model from WoW Alpha, so comic artists had to reflect that.

When he finally got his own model, he looks much younger. No amount of "freshly shaven" explains that difference.

Umm... The artist still has to conform to what Blizzard wants.

Also:

• WC2 (1995):
  
  
• WC2X (1996):
  
  
• Warcraft RPG (Oct 2004) reused in Annual 2015:
  
  
• WoW (Nov 2004):
  
  
• TBC (2006):
  
  
• Comic (2010):
  
  
• TCG (2013):
  
  
• WoD+ (2016+):
  
  

The Comics depiction did not have to conform to the WoW/TBC model at all. The TCG completely ignored it, and that is what the new model is based on.

[setsuna f seiei]

Turalyon is now 20ish+ years older than when he first fucked off with with the Alliance Expedition.

100 years did NOT elapse on Azeroth, let alone 1000, Only 25~+ years.

different worlds 100% handle their years different when compared to Azeroth.

[Lahis]

The Comics depiction did not have to conform to the WoW/TBC model at all. The TCG completely ignored it, and that is what the new model is based on.

But the comics did conform to his model. TGC revamp was done after them.

The comics were marketed as close tie-in to the game. Any character that had appeared in the game was propably required to look close for their game counterpart, for recognizeability and marketing.

[Aquamonkey]

But the comics did conform to his model. TGC revamp was done after them.

At the direction of Blizzard's devs, not at the artist's purview.

The comics were marketed as close tie-in to the game. Any character that had appeared in the game was propably required to look close for their game counterpart, for recognizeability and marketing.

The comic came 4 years after TBC, its tie-in representation to the game was irrelevant at that point. And the reason I posted the comic Khadgar was because the example of how that particular artist depicts an old person was clearly not applied to Aegwynn (and thus Blizzard did not direct her to be to depicted as such).

[Cuque]

You know making a baby requires more than just the female right? She needs to have banged Turalyon 1k years ago to have created that child.

So? l have no children but i can answer myself what will l say to my hypothetical children if l had them.

[Combatbutler]

Turalyon was empowered by a prime naaru so it is only reasonable to assume that his life would be extended, just like any other powerful power source can sustain mortals, now that Xe'ra is gone he might be back to regular aging.

[Wyrt]

Turalyon is just dumb and can't tell time is all.

[grondik]

1) Assumption: Time flows different in the nether. Source in lore: none. Forget it. Until told otherwise by the devs.
2) Assumption: Nerzuls portals back in WC2 opened through time. Source in lore: none. Forget it. Until told otherwise by the devs.
3) Assumption: outland is actually 1000 years before in time, than Azeroth. Source in lore: none. ALSO countered by the fact Exodar came to Azeroth on its own, without the portal. Forget it. Until retconned by the devs.
4 and so on... The Naaru have the power to move people through time. NO COME ON!

Inf) A figure of speech. Source in lore: none. Also why the hell is Turalyon on Argus? No info. What happened in the 20-smth years of him missing? No info. Also why was Khadgar, cursed by medivh, looking old, but now he isnt? No info. Why?

Because blizz devs are not fckng George "Winds of winter" Martin, who write the lore in every detail.

There was a moment somewhere between Wotlk and Cata when they decided -30% lore, +40% player action. WE, guys, are the minority who cares, and the majority is playing for huge yellow numbers and purple pixels. We will not get the answer, because lore now is not a detailed story, but a basic outline of events. An excuse! for making us do more quests and farm more epics.

The chronicles books are probably the attempt to fix that somehow, but still there is still MUCH room for impprovement.

Well, if you played DnD gaes IRL sometime, you would know, that in the case of lore the devs are the rulebook. The universe works according to their thoughts. And these frustrating moment happen, when the story seems to stagger, and you need to change the rules to prevent that. Lets make an example:

WoD. We come through the portal. We see the iron horde. AAAAND a player rolls Archery +4, Grom hellscream rolls Dodge +1, resulting in 8 vs 3, +5 - huge success. Grom Hellscream is killed by a shot into the head. WoD . Fin.

In a DnD type of the game this would totally happen, and it would be okay. Sometimes the guide cannot prevent the player from breaking the system. But WoW s a "railway" game. We kinda... participate in the events, as they would happen in the eyes of the devs. The players DO NOT influence the lore. In anyway. The bad part is, knowing that, the devs do not make lore deep enough. The recent tweet "Fell free to speculate" from the devs, remember it? Its their way to make you click, to make you wonder.

They wont tell you why the f he said about 1000 years. They wont answer you where Medan (god forgive me) is. They wont answer what are the EXACT rules to kill a demon permanently. Remember a QA about GENERAL LORE last happening? No? Me neither. And it wont happen. Ever. Only about the current xpac. Because its THE EASY WAY. You wonder, you are eaged to know, you are frustrated to know. But they have no answer. Its not kept secret. It just does not exist.

RESUME FOR THE LAZY READER: This is a question that will not EVER be answered with a probability of 99%.

[Vakna]

So? l have no children but i can answer myself what will l say to my hypothetical children if l had them.

That is some real straw grasping right there. Why would Alleria have been thinking hypothetically about what she'd say to her son (note: male child) about being away from him for a few decades fighting with the Army of the Light, then all of that stuff just happens to come true? And then why would Turalyon agree with her rather than be like "bitch what you smoking?".

it's overwhelmingly more likely that Blizzard just butchered the lore here and the writer in this area has no idea about the story pre-Legion.

[Aquamonkey]

1) Assumption: Time flows different in the nether. Source in lore: none. Forget it. Until told otherwise by the devs.

"Was she here for days? Years? Centuries? The mage was right... time has little meaning in this place"

[DeuZWw]

Given the fact that after xera gets blown to pieces his eyes lose their glow, chances are grandpa will start aging normally really soon.

Thats unrelated. seem alot of people saying that. but his eyes only got golden when Xe'ra got revived at start of the video. so he's immortal or have a really long-life spawn or something like that with or without the Golden eyes.



Anyway, as someone who saw alot of Star Trek, i can relate with you being on another planet making you to live longer, or time passing faster but aging being slower. Stuff like that.

if you think about it, the last Legion attack to Azeroth they hadn't so much Tech(spaceship and stuff like that) and now they seem much more advanced. Maybe that's why. For us it has been just some years. while the legion had thousand of years of advance.(Still doesn't explain some stuff and this opens up alot of other questions, i know. but its all speculation so yeah).

[Combatbutler]

Thats unrelated. seem alot of people saying that. but his eyes only got golden when Xe'ra got revived at start of the video. so he's immortal or have a really long-life spawn or something like that with or without the Golden eyes.

Immortality isn't handed out like candy in the warcraft universe, Turalyon is not immortal on his own, he needs a power source to sustain him. Just like every other mortal, and the only great power source in his vicinity and the only one that makes remotely sense considering the limitations of immortality in warcraft capable of prolonging his life just blew up.

[Techno-Druid]

Aegwynn extended her life for thousands of years through magic.