No, timegating could be done in a way that would feel justified by what is going on in the game. That would be immersive and would really provide players/servers to unite and work for that next chapter in the Argus story or whatever. Similarly, there is no logical justification why AK should just stack passively every 7 days (upped from 5 days btw, to make it all take even longer) and not have it tied to some sort of activity in the game. Also, funny how after AK 25 the story of our weapons just ended. And how no backstory appeared to Order Hall missions, how world quests have become less and less polished with every patch in terms of quest text, etc. While I am at it, what is the reasoning for having mobs that are not required for ANY quest spawn within 5 seconds after I killed it? Bah... If I hated the game so much I would not bother with creating this topic, trust me. You dont seem to get it that often the most passionately "hating" fans care much more about this game than the bunch of people with a low threshold for satisfaction. Hence why it would be in vain to suggest they unsub.
Oh it's you again. Maybe start a facebook-group with your friend Jaylock.
As a company who makes things for entertainment (and as with any succesful business) you have to listen to customers and make changes to reduce the amount of unsatisfied ones (while also getting new ones).
Any business who refuses to improve and actually listen to what the customer 'desires' is doomed to fail eventually and shoot itself in the foot.
I'm not saying the customer is always right, but there's glaring issues ever since the release of Legion (Legendaries & AP being one) which can't be denied since their Official Forums keep getting new posts regarding it (as an example).
Ofcourse you can say it's only a minority who are dissatisfied with the game (or aspects of it) but those people are also customers and telling them to 'quit if you don't like it' is the opposite of what one should do.
Finding a middle ground between listening to customers and still do your own thing isn't easy (and if it would we wouldn't still have new posts popping up everyday (or videos). I'm not here to show a solution, but your toxic behavior is just as bad as those who complain about the game.
"If you are what you HAVE and you lose what you have, what then are you? But if you are what you ARE and you lose what you have, no man controls your destiny".
And I agree. I actually hate Legendaries. I don't like how certain specs are built around them and preferred the WoD/MoP model of Legendaries in which you worked on it throughout the expansion.
But if they are still not listening then why bother? Clearly if you tried countless times then they are not going to listen after the 100th time.
Maybe when they see their player numbers are plummeting from disdained players they might stop being so ignorant?
So yes if you are unhappy with the game and Blizzard are consistently not listening to yours and a large amount of players feedback what else is there to do? Keep forcing yourself into playing a game where the devs clearly don't give 2 shits about your opinion/feedback and one that you are dissatisfied with? How is that healthy?
As I said I've played games where the devs don't give a shit and over time I stopped enjoying. Why would I go back to those games if they are still in the same state?
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Usually?
Methinks you are mixing me up with someone else mate. I've probably said it to people yes. But "usually" is an overstatement.
Also no. Calling someone a "white knight" for not agreeing with your opinion of a game is stupid. Rift for example I bloody hate it and I'm damn near always critical of it. Do I expect people to be up in arms and agreeing with me and if they don't they are "white knights"? Not at all.
A white knight is someone who defends their game vehemently or damn near to the point where it is the best thing since sliced bread. WoW has it's faults just like any other MMO or game.
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They don't report sub numbers anymore, only hours spent in the game. They are making WoW an even greater time sink in order to appease investors.
Sooo I have not yet played through Legion, but I will say this.
You are on the Demons HOME WORLD!!!!! The home where they are SPAWNED and sent to wrack havoc on the universe. Do you really think there should only be 100 mobs dispersed around the area.... They know they are about to be attacked but hey lets just have them throw out some 10 or 50 trash mobs for the convenience of the player....
And with flying.. WHY are people so obsessed with flying? I have a drake from since TBC or whenever flying was allowed. I used it maybe 200 times over the past 4 -6 years or so.
And the green landscape, again you are on the Demon HOMEWORLD.... That is where Fel is created(assumption) and where the Demons live. It is their house, you dont like the green get out.
If the area was one straight line from start to finish then you would complain that it was to easy to get to where you needed to be. It is supposed to be HARD to get there. They are TRYING to KILL you. They aint gonna make it easy on you. What do you want a GPS to their front door and all the mobs to just wave and die as you try to kill their leaders?
I have kept up with WoW through MMO-Champfor the last 6 years or so and my GOWRSH!!!!! people are whiny and crying all the time. I want my flying.... I want no mobs and all the lootz........ I want to see the end but do not want to go through the challenge or Raids to see it....... you DPS is shitz get out of my GF...... you do not know mechs WTF you doing here........ CHRIST, it is no wonder why I now play this game sporadically solo.
I so miss my old Raiding Progression guild but after all of the posts seen here(thousands dang near lol) I dont even know if I will even be able to raid again. The meter is just too damned high lol.
BUT, I stillenjoy it and am eagerly awaiting my time to see Argus. It will take a few months but I will get there lol.
I'm glad Blizzard decided to go with Story > Gameplay.
Moving around Argus ain't easy and that's good. If you can't even navigate around a zone to find a specific spot for a quest or maybe a rare mob then Blizzard has spoiled you too much. It's an invasion on the Burning Legion HQ, it ain't supposed to be easy. In fact it should be even worse.
Every time Blizzard tries to do something different people complain endlessly. But if they don't do it people complain that it's just another X or Y. No wonder they stopped caring about what the community wants, not even the community knows what it wants.
English is not my first language, feel free to point out any mistake so i can keep learning.
Explain this type of timegating with your "story before gameplay" please. Disconnected from the whole theme and experience.
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It did abysmally given the amount of overhauls and trying to affect people´s brain stem with all this RNG and Grind. Barely above WoD is just terrible.
Sub numbers dropped terribly shortly after launch. And it is shame more than anything that stops them from publishing sub numbers.
Hence making it take you as long as possible is the way to go now. Even the portal back to the ship does not teleport you to the portal but to the other side.
One more minute just running to where you want to go. Multiply it with millions and you get great time spent in the game. Or the chests that take you minutes to reach, only to witness them despawning.
Source on sub numbers?
And don't even bother with the unofficial and unreliable census websites.
And go read the quarterly reports. Financially it's been up every Quarter for the past year in general. That's what investors care about.
http://files.shareholder.com/downloa...ith_Tables.pdf
http://files.shareholder.com/downloa...ss_Release.pdf
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You think appealing to investors is good for the overall enjoyment of the game? Their new metric is destroying the game. Ever since they started to abide by it, RNG and Grind have gone through the roof, terrain is the worst ever and arbitrary timegates on Artifact Knowledge occurred, effectively putting out any desire you might have to grind excessively to max your artifact weapon. Having more time than others brings you nowhere in this game. Used to not be this way. At least during expansions.
Also, sub numbers were not even commented on during Q2 quarterly report. What does that imply? That many people quit because of Broken Shore maybe? They were ashamed because they were lower than WoD? Surely they would have mentioned it, had sub numbers risen. Q1 had them just above WoD levels.
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Yes I am angry, because you can't understand the reason for why I told him to unsub and instead I have to write two damn paragraphs in order for you to understand the reason behind me (or anyone else really) telling him to unsub. But you don't seem to get my point, which I thought was made quite clear when I said 'What does he expect' as well as the 'you' which was a general 'you, not a 'you' directed at you.
Never said that appealing to investors was good. The first poster I responded to mentioned investors so I said what does an investor care more about? Money or sub numbers?
And again your opinion of the game.
Now source on sub numbers? Or are you just going to spam "shame shame shame" and pretend it holds some weight?
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Haven't had any problems navigating argus at all, i guess i know how to read a map and use common sense..?
Pro-guilds compete for world first Mythic Boss Kill.
MMO-C users compete for world first complain about new feature.
This is pathetic.