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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    Your phone doesn't even come close to what the Switch has internally though. It's not even the same comparison.
    You're right. It should be compared to a tablet. They tend to have the same amount of storage, you know... devices not designed specifically for games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    Your phone doesn't even come close to what the Switch has internally though. It's not even the same comparison.
    Switch has 32GB of internal storage.

    My phone has 64GB.

    Not hard to do the math. Stick to storage not overall specs. Like we were discussing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    You're right. It should be compared to a tablet. They tend to have the same amount of storage, you know... devices not designed specifically for games.
    What the actual hell are you talking about

    The Switch IS designed for games is the issue here. A tablet isn't going to be able to run Breath of the Wild you know, and that's because of the other specs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eleccybubb View Post
    Switch has 32GB of internal storage.

    My phone has 64GB.

    Not hard to do the math. Stick to storage not overall specs. Like we were discussing.
    That's not how this works dude. You can't just ignore literally everything else that's in the Switch that causes the issue of storage.

    It's just backwards as hell, and not how a discussion works. "Don't look at the part that proves your point, ignore that!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    What the actual hell are you talking about

    The Switch IS designed for games is the issue here. A tablet isn't going to be able to run Breath of the Wild you know, and that's because of the other specs.



    That's not how this works dude. You can't just ignore literally everything else that's in the Switch that causes the issue of storage.

    It's just backwards as hell, and not how a discussion works. "Don't look at the part that proves your point, ignore that!"
    You're right. The switch is designed for games and has as much storage as a tablet, which is not designed for games.

    Least it got HD rumble

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    What the actual hell are you talking about

    The Switch IS designed for games is the issue here. A tablet isn't going to be able to run Breath of the Wild you know, and that's because of the other specs.



    That's not how this works dude. You can't just ignore literally everything else that's in the Switch that causes the issue of storage.

    It's just backwards as hell, and not how a discussion works. "Don't look at the part that proves your point, ignore that!"
    Ok then. Didn't devs actually come out and state they don't want to design for it due to lack of power? Even Indie ones as well as big names? Along with the most recent Fifa game not using the Frostbite engine on Switch?

    So along with it's lack of power it has a very small amount of storage that should be higher in 2017.

    I mean it has some amazing games. BotW, Splatoon 2, Mario does look good but wait and see and ARMS is half decent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    You're right. The switch is designed for games and has as much storage as a tablet, which is not designed for games.

    Least it got HD rumble
    You're not arguing anything here, or at least not making any sense.

    What you're saying is akin to saying "You're right, this device that isn't meant for storage cannot store as much as the one that is".

    Quote Originally Posted by Eleccybubb View Post
    Ok then. Didn't devs actually come out and state they don't want to design for it due to lack of power? Even Indie ones as well as big names? Along with the most recent Fifa game not using the Frostbite engine on Switch?

    So along with it's lack of power it has a very small amount of storage that should be higher in 2017.
    First I'm hearing of that, but hey, let's focus on the storage topic, and ignore that anyway right, like we were discussing.

    Yes, I'm a bit salty right now. I mean, traditionally, no handhelds had storage worth noting. Vita has 1GB it looks like (Which isn't usable with external storage), 3DS has like 2GBs, and those are both just the last gen.

    So stepping up to 32gbs internal is actually huge in that regard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    You're not arguing anything here, or at least not making any sense.

    What you're saying is akin to saying "You're right, this device that isn't meant for storage cannot store as much as the one that is".
    You said it was a handheld. Let's compare it to tablet storage then as it's a handheld. Or what else do you want to compare it to?

    Again stop excusing the fact they could have easily thrown more than 32GB in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    You're not arguing anything here, or at least not making any sense.

    What you're saying is akin to saying "You're right, this device that isn't meant for storage cannot store as much as the one that is".

    The switch is a tablet that links to your TV that is designed for games, yet has as much or less storage than similar devices that are not designed for games. At least they got HD rumble for 1 2 switch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    The switch is a tablet that links to your TV that is designed for games, yet has as much or less storage than similar devices that are not designed for games. At least they got HD rumble for 1 2 switch.
    Bit of both.

    Low end tablets start at 16/32 GB

    Mid price would be 32/64 GB

    High price usually throw in a 128 GB SSD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eleccybubb View Post
    You said it was a handheld. Let's compare it to tablet storage then as it's a handheld. Or what else do you want to compare it to?
    A tablet is not a device designed for handheld gaming. You'd compare it to other handheld gaming devices, like the Vita or 3DS.

    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    The switch is a tablet that links to your TV that is designed for games, yet has as much or less storage than similar devices that are not designed for games. At least they got HD rumble for 1 2 switch.
    Because those devices are intended for storage. You can't buy a physical game for a tablet ya know. Why you keep going on about this is beyond me, the Switch is not a tablet, unless you wanna say the 3DS is a tablet next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    A tablet is not a device designed for handheld gaming. You'd compare it to other handheld gaming devices, like the Vita or 3DS.



    Because those devices are intended for storage. You can't buy a physical game for a tablet ya know. Why you keep going on about this is beyond me, the Switch is not a tablet, unless you wanna say the 3DS is a tablet next.
    Ah yes, intended for storage, because DEVICES THAT NEED TO STORE GAMES is not intended for storage. Good thing Nintendo is great at keeping physical items in stock right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    A tablet is not a device designed for handheld gaming. You'd compare it to other handheld gaming devices, like the Vita or 3DS.



    Because those devices are intended for storage. You can't buy a physical game for a tablet ya know. Why you keep going on about this is beyond me, the Switch is not a tablet, unless you wanna say the 3DS is a tablet next.
    Well considering Nintendo market the Switch as a hybrid and a competitor to the PS4/XB1 how about we compare it to those? Rather than what you think the Switch is?

    The Switch is a hybrid system designed to compete with the main console market. Not the handheld market. And you damn well know it is.

    And how the fuck is a games console not intended for storage too? What the hell do you want us to store our games on if not the consoles storage? External storage for a console such as the Switch, PS4 or XB1 should be needed way down the line unless you buy a boatload of games.
    Last edited by Eleccybubb; 2017-09-02 at 04:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    Ah yes, intended for storage, because DEVICES THAT NEED TO STORE GAMES is not intended for storage. Good thing Nintendo is great at keeping physical items in stock right?
    I haven't had a single issue with physical games and Nintendo ever.

    And no, because you can buy physical games, so it's not as mandatory as a tablet. Even then, if you truly want more storage for the Switch, it's not like you're breaking the bank to buy more.

    Like I said, it's really not that big of a deal.

    It's not like, oh you know, being in 2017 where every other console has achievements but Nintendo for some reason doesn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eleccybubb View Post
    Well considering Nintendo market the Switch as a hybrid and a competitor to the PS4/XB1 how about we compare it to those? Rather than what you think the Switch is?

    The Switch is a hybrid system designed to compete with the main console market. Not the handheld market. And you damn well know it is.
    It's not. There is almost no one who thinks it is meant to compete against the PS4/XB1.

    In fact, it seems pretty universally agreed Nintendo realized they succeeded most with handhelds always, so they decided to just push that further with the Switch, and allow the option to play on a TV as more of a "So console players can be happy too".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    I haven't had a single issue with physical games and Nintendo ever.

    And no, because you can buy physical games, so it's not as mandatory as a tablet. Even then, if you truly want more storage for the Switch, it's not like you're breaking the bank to buy more.

    Like I said, it's really not that big of a deal.

    It's not like, oh you know, being in 2017 where every other console has achievements but Nintendo for some reason doesn't.
    Because achievements are pointless garbage and Nintendo should be focusing on more pressing matters for the Switch. Such as getting VC on there, video related apps and actually reworking their shitty voice app.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eleccybubb View Post
    Because achievements are pointless garbage and Nintendo should be focusing on more pressing matters for the Switch. Such as getting VC on there, video related apps and actually reworking their shitty voice app.
    They're clearly not pointless garbage if basically every other gaming related thing alive has adapted them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    I haven't had a single issue with physical games and Nintendo ever.

    And no, because you can buy physical games, so it's not as mandatory as a tablet. Even then, if you truly want more storage for the Switch, it's not like you're breaking the bank to buy more.

    Like I said, it's really not that big of a deal.

    It's not like, oh you know, being in 2017 where every other console has achievements but Nintendo for some reason doesn't.
    Kinda are breaking the bank to buy more, especially since other accessories are pretty pricey too. Whose talking about Achievements? Game storage is a tad more important than achievements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    I haven't had a single issue with physical games and Nintendo ever.

    And no, because you can buy physical games, so it's not as mandatory as a tablet. Even then, if you truly want more storage for the Switch, it's not like you're breaking the bank to buy more.

    Like I said, it's really not that big of a deal.

    It's not like, oh you know, being in 2017 where every other console has achievements but Nintendo for some reason doesn't.



    It's not. There is almost no one who thinks it is meant to compete against the PS4/XB1.

    In fact, it seems pretty universally agreed Nintendo realized they succeeded most with handhelds always, so they decided to just push that further with the Switch, and allow the option to play on a TV as more of a "So console players can be happy too".
    And again you don't get to decide what they do. They marketed it as a hybrid and right now it's competing with the current generation of non handheld consoles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    They're clearly not pointless garbage if basically every other gaming related thing alive has adapted them.
    Try reading. They are when Nintendo should be focusing on more important matters. Achievements should be the last thing that console gets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    Kinda are breaking the bank to buy more, especially since other accessories are pretty pricey too. Whose talking about Achievements? Game storage is a tad more important than achievements.
    If it's breaking the bank to buy more, then geez, imagine how much more the console would have been if they tacked in extra storage? You already see people asking for a cheaper version that comes with no dock instead to save money.

    Mind you, there's no other accessories you really even needed, not sure why their price matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    If it's breaking the bank to buy more, then geez, imagine how much more the console would have been if they tacked in extra storage? You already see people asking for a cheaper version that comes with no dock instead to save money.

    Mind you, there's no other accessories you really even needed, not sure why their price matters.
    I spent £50 more on a PS4 with a 1TB HDD as standard. What does that say? Don't pretend it would have cost that much more if they had increased the internal storage upto something like 256GB.

    And don't even pull the handheld crap out of the woodwork. It being a hybrid doesn't suddenly force them to make a pitiful amount of internal storage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    If it's breaking the bank to buy more, then geez, imagine how much more the console would have been if they tacked in extra storage? You already see people asking for a cheaper version that comes with no dock instead to save money.

    Mind you, there's no other accessories you really even needed, not sure why their price matters.
    I don't care what they want. What matters is there should be more storage.

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