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    "At least they didn't murder anyone" is an extremely low bar to try and pat yourselves on the back with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    And? I'm not arguing against self-defense. I'm pointing out hypocrisy in how people treat armed Antifa versus armed paramilitia. A bunch of guys in black hoodies and holding sticks? PANIC. A bunch of guys in camo with AR-15s? They're just good ol' boys.

    That's nonsense. If the former alarms you, the latter should be way more alarming. If it isn't, you're a hypocrite engaging in partisan slander.

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    If the former alarms you, the latter should be way more alarming. If it isn't, you're a hypocrite engaging in partisan slander.
    Why would they be alarmed by the people on their own side?

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    Oh so your saying its ok if i kick your ass and send you to the hospital with multiple wounds as long as i dont kill you? You dont excuse this type of violent behavior because your going to get people who take it even farther which is exactly what happened. Someones gonna cross that line between sending you to the hospital and sending you to the grave. You dont get to applaud one and condemn the other they are both bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomservo View Post
    And?



    Same difference. That's my point.

    And I'll note that the guys in your pic were at Berkeley, where they shot nobody and didn't use those weapons. Weapons were discharged in Charlottesville, by white supremacists, which is where my pic is from.

    If the guys in your pic scare you, and the guys in mine don't, you're not actually taking issue with them for being armed and ready for violence, you're taking issue with your ideological enemies being capable of fighting back.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomyris View Post
    I think it is a matter of time until a moron does something stupid. We have our stupid as well.
    I think they have intent, they just haven't got lucky yet.

  7. #67
    Attempted body count by the Extreme left, at least 4. Then there were five assaults over the past weekend.

    The White Supremacists are bad guys yes, but lets not pretend that Antifa are the good guys because they are opposed to the bad guys. Political Violence is always wrong, and you okaying Antifa is disturbing.

  8. #68
    Let's see Antifa is part of the left and this is how many people they killed
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terr...nti-government
    Ooh let's not forget a socialist tried to kill FDR for not being socialist enough and a anarchist killed William McKinley.
    So I wager it's only a matter of time before one of them kills a cop or an innocent civilian in its imaginary fight against fascism and capitalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by primalmatter View Post
    I don't I want them to be seen as the potential threat they are rather then just trashcan burning hooligans. I don't get the push to try and white wash their movement.
    No, you're too busy white washing the Neo-Nazi's and KKK, aren't you...

  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    And?



    Same difference. That's my point.

    And I'll note that the guys in your pic were at Berkeley, where they shot nobody and didn't use those weapons. Weapons were discharged in Charlottesville, by white supremacists, which is where my pic is from.

    If the guys in your pic scare you, and the guys in mine don't, you're not actually taking issue with them for being armed and ready for violence, you're taking issue with your ideological enemies being capable of fighting back.
    You truly are the biggest bitch cunt I have seen on the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomservo View Post
    You truly are the biggest bitch cunt I have seen on the internet.
    Because he exposes your hypocrisy?

  12. #72
    Fun Fact: The US was Antifa during World War 2.

    How did that turn out?

  13. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by Boomzy View Post
    With millions of dead innocent people on both sides.

    Is that what you want?
    So let the Nazis do as they please?

  14. #74
    If modern neo-Nazis get the bodycount of the German Nazis, I think it's also logical to lay much larger pile of people murdered by communism at the feet of antifa, since many of them do identify as communists; an ideology as vile and destructive as Nazism/fascism.

    If we're keeping both to just what their modern equivalents are guilty of, then neo-nazis 1 death to antifa's number of assaults. One is worse, but not monumentally so. They're both shitbags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomzy View Post
    With millions of dead innocent people on both sides.

    Is that what you want?
    Dunno about you, but when one side invades countries and puts people into concentration camps and commits a myriad of other atrocities ... maybe the other side should act.

    And maybe, given how we know that that is still the goal of the first side, the other side should stop them before they can do ti all over again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    Dunno about you, but when one side invades countries and puts people into concentration camps and commits a myriad of other atrocities ... maybe the other side should act.

    And maybe, given how we know that that is still the goal of the first side, the other side should stop them before they can do ti all over again.
    I agree, that's why communism and fascism both need to be on our lists to watch out for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atsawin26 View Post
    If modern neo-Nazis get the bodycount of the German Nazis, I think it's also logical to lay much larger pile of people murdered by communism at the feet of antifa, since many of them do identify as communists; an ideology as vile and destructive as Nazism/fascism.

    If we're keeping both to just what their modern equivalents are guilty of, then neo-nazis 1 death to antifa's number of assaults. One is worse, but not monumentally so. They're both shitbags.
    Actually, Nazi's and Fascists have killed a lot more people than Communists or Socialists. Unless you use the flawed methodology from the heap of shit called "the Black book of Communism", in which case (by the same flawed methodology), Capitalism has killed FAR more people than Communism, Nazism, Facism and the Black Death combined. So either Nazism and Fascism is worse than Communism, or Capitalism is the Murderous Scourge to End Them All.

    Your choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    And? I'm not arguing against self-defense. I'm pointing out hypocrisy in how people treat armed Antifa versus armed paramilitia. A bunch of guys in black hoodies and holding sticks? PANIC. A bunch of guys in camo with AR-15s? They're just good ol' boys.

    That's nonsense. If the former alarms you, the latter should be way more alarming. If it isn't, you're a hypocrite engaging in partisan slander.
    Why would it be way more alarming if they aren't doing anything illegal? That's just your degree of emotion that you're free to choose I guess. Both are bad if they actually do something illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atsawin26 View Post
    I agree, that's why communism and fascism both need to be on our lists to watch out for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Collegeguy View Post
    Why would it be way more alarming if they aren't doing anything illegal? That's just your degree of emotion that you're free to choose I guess. Both are bad if they actually do something illegal.
    In both cases, neither group was doing anything illegal. And yet, people keep posting about how horrible it is seeing these people in black wielding sticks and shields. That's what I'm getting at; they have issues with Antifa being armed, but not people on "their side" of this.

    I'm not particularly alarmed by either.


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