Communism never killed 100M people

[Fudal]

Because unlike you I actually know about Africa, I lived in Africa, and I don't treat Africa like its a fucking country with 1 people 1 state 1 culture

If you can't name at least 10 countries in Africa (which most Americans can't) you should probably not talk about Africa

Should we discuss Congo, Kenya, Somalia, Eritrea, Uganda, Niger, Nigeria, Liberia, Ivory Coast, Ethiopia, or South Sudan first? Or maybe you would like to discuss Algeria or Libya?

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Why is this? Well just watch this video.

leave to americans to use hollywood movies as educational material and lecture you on topics they know nothing about 24/7

[Vyxn]

Because nazism vs communism is a false dichotomy

Fun fact, the nazis called for bans on dissenting opinions too
Maybe you are the bad guy here

condemning one of those evil ideologies doesn't make you a supporter of the other

Both Nazism and Communism are evil ideologies and both need to be condemned
but if you go by body count which is more evil communism has that won by far

[Deleted]

Should we discuss Congo, Kenya, Somalia, Eritrea, Uganda, Niger, Nigeria, Liberia, Ivory Coast, Ethiopia, or South Sudan first? Or maybe you would like to discuss Algeria or Libya?

good job you learned something today

well you tell me, since you just discovered they werent part of a single continental hive mind which one do you want to discuss ?

[Mister Cheese]

leave to americans to use hollywood movies as educational material and lecture you on topics they know nothing about 24/7

Leave it to a frenchie to not take my post seriously and use ad hominems to attack me rather than my point. This is shit that actually happened.

[Elba]

Both Nazism and Communism are evil ideologies and both need to be condemned

What is evil about communism as an ideology?

[Forogil]

Animal farm is widely misunderstood as a polemic against communism but this critique misses the point. In fact orwell was deeply troubled that his work was been used by right wing reactionaries as a stinging critique of socialism and/or communism. Orwell in fact was socialist and fought for the socialists in the spanish civil war.

Animal farm is correctly understood as a polemic against communism and socialism in practice.

Orwell was socialist (and non-totalitarian) - and disillusioned by how communism (and some variants of socialism) worked in practice. I doubt that he would have praised Venezuela.

He fought with Partido Obrero de Unificación Marxista (POUM) and the following quote from Wikipedia seems as relevant now as then:

The Communist line was that the POUM were "objectively" Fascist, hindering the Republican cause. "A particularly nasty poster appeared, showing a head with a POUM mask being ripped off to reveal a Swastika-covered face beneath."

As for Orwell being deeply troubled by how reactionaries used his work: I doubt that without a solid reference - since Orwell died too young.

The point was that the animals ought to have continued sharing the farm...

Assumedly written by someone who haven't understood the book.

[Vyxn]

What is evil about communism as an ideology?

the fact that communism last century has mass murdered between 90 million to 140 million depending on what source you want to believe
even if you contribute every death in WW2 to the Nazis that still doesn't reach the amount that communism has mass murdered

[Deleted]

Leave it to a frenchie to not take my post seriously and use ad hominems to attack me rather than my point. This is shit that actually happened.

what is there to take seriously ? you use a movie as an historical reference

i took literally 5 seconds to google search and debunk your claim :

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistoria...viet_soldiers/

Fact. In 1942 alone, the Izveshk and Tula arsenals produced over 3,000,000 Model 1891/30 pattern Mosin Nagant rifles. They produced another nearly 2 million in 1943. (http://mosinnagant.net/USSR/Soviet-M9130.asp). Another 687,426 Model 1938 Mosin Nagant carbines were produced in 1942, while 1943 production was 978,297 (The Mosin Nagant Rifle, by Terrance W Lapin).

Meanwhile by the spring of 1942, production of the PPSH-41 submachine gun was at over 3,000 units per day.

It is estimated that at it's peak, the Red Army numbered 12.5 million, and not all of them were infantry or would have carried rifles or submachine guns.

So looking at the figures we can see in 1942 alone, the Soviet Union produced roughly 4 million rifles, carbines or submachine guns, plus a bit over another quarter million semi automatic SVT-40 rifles.

Then we had another 5 million some odd Mosin Nagant rifles and carbines made just in the years of 1939-1941. This doesn't count the millions of rifles already in inventory for the Red Army, nor any submachine guns, nor any of the US military aid given to the USSR.

In a word, the idea of unarmed Red Army infantrymen and women going into battle is absurd. In addition there were well over a million assorted M1895 Nagant and TT-33 pattern pistols available for officers, tankers, pilots, etc.

soviets produced so many weapons you can still find them in active war zones due to contraband stocks being sold after the collapse of the union. why do you think ak-47 are so popular ?

that scene was a great one but its factually wrong. period.

[Elba]

the fact that communism last century has mass murdered between 90 million to 140 million depending on what source you want to believe
even if you contribute every death in WW2 to the Nazis that still doesn't reach the amount that communism has mass murdered

Mass murder is not part of communism as an ideology, though.

[Vyxn]

Mass murder is not part of communism as an ideology, though.

and neither is it to Nazism but mass murder was used both in Nazism and Communism to reach its goals

[Mister Cheese]

Mass murder is not part of communism as an ideology, though.

Vyxn already said it for me but Communism uses killing people that disagree with the governement to reach its goals.

[Elba]

and neither is it to Nazism but mass murder was used both in Nazism and Communism to reach its goals

Actually it is. Ethnic cleansing is part of Nazism.

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Vyxn already said it for me but Communism uses killing people that disagree with the governement to reach its goals.

When? No communist nation has ever existed.

[Linkedblade]

I'm just glad I live in capitalist republic. Screw your communism, democracy, socialism, and fascism.

[Sinyc]

Putting aside that fact that 7m millions is the lowest estimate for the fraud

I'm astonished to see how you brush it as 7 millions potential victims is nothing

Do you support genocide ?

Fuck this nazi forum seriously

I know you are trolling, and already been reported, but try to at least make some sense!

[Elba]

I'm just glad I live in capitalist republic. Screw your communism, democracy, socialism, and fascism.

Why? What are the benefits? Especially compared to socialism and democracy as found in Europe.

[taliey]

Communism did nothing wrong

/s

[Linkedblade]

Actually it is. Ethnic cleansing is part of Nazism.

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When? No communist nation has ever existed.

Uh, isn't the heart of antifa anarcho-communism? So, no government, no property rights? What in that situation leads to peace or quality of life?

[Elba]

Uh, isn't the heart of antifa anarcho-communism? So, no government, no property rights? What in that situation leads to peace or quality of life?

The end of the exploitation of the workers.

[Vyxn]

Actually it is. Ethnic cleansing is part of Nazism.

ethnic purity is doesn't mention what method is used to reach that goal and with communism political purity was its goal now both used mass murder to reach that goal

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When? No communist nation has ever existed.

your confusing the theory of Marxism to communism
Communism is the resort of trying to implement the failed theory of Marxism