Beware of dates who are just in it for a free meal.

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It's so different for homosexuals I guess, first date we always share, then on future dates it's either shared or whoever suggested that place. If there is significant disparity in financial means I can see paying for the other guy if I am taking him somewhere expensive (or being paid for in case he is the wealthier person and takes you on something really extravagant)

This sounds a lot more reasonable.

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A traditional gender role idea of dating like she has wouldn't turn me off from a woman if I found her attractive. Hell, I prefer the old fashioned way.

So why not set the frame in a way where she doesn't expect you to pay? You still get pussy. Women like men. Believe it or not, women want to meet men and have sexual relations with them. You don't need to convince them with gifts. Who cares if that one beautiful woman isn't gonna bang you unless you buy her shit. Ditch her and move on. There is an infinite supply of women out there. There are more women out there that want to sleep with you than you can logistically ever get to. The day doesn't have enough hours and your life won't have enough days to bang all the hot women that would be willing to bang you. So why waste your time with women that most likely will only take advantage of you?

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I mean there are twinks matching up with sugar daddies but that's quite more explicit. There is almost never an automatic assumption between strangers that one will pay for the other.

That makes sense when 2 men are involved. The dynamic is man pays for woman. With two men, you don't have that. I love it.

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But someone has to take care of straight women

Isn't that the socialist govt. job nowadays?

[Freighter]

$3-10? Where do your dates take you, McDonalds?

I mean, if they want to spend more they can do that but I'm happy with going to a hawker centre after doing something just to grab some food.

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That'S the 1850s you are thinking of, we are talking about the 1950s.

I'm talking about 1950s too.

Why would anyone take you out on a date with your attitude unless they get paid or it?

Because they like me.

[Paperfox]

If a girl being after your money only, such as in this extreme case where they want a free meal and nothing more, is something you consider to be a non-match, you will probably find out about it faster and paying less if you share the bill or do a low cost date.

If she was truly hard up, then it would be better to take her to the grocery store. If she was able to (and does) make ends meet and simply and only wants to go to a nice restaurant for supper, then I would ask myself if her company was worth it. Some people are really interesting and their advice is sound. But if not, then just nope.

[Sorshen]

Because they like me.

You're lucky people still put up with this shit now. Wait a few years.

[Freighter]

You're lucky people still put up with this shit now. Wait a few years.

Not going to change.

[Rooflesstoofless]

Advantage of growing up poor: Girls knew they were going to get fast food and maybe a Blockbuster rental if they were really worth my time.

So why not set the frame in a way where she doesn't expect you to pay? You still get pussy. Women like men. Believe it or not, women want to meet men and have sexual relations with them. You don't need to convince them with gifts. Who cares if that one beautiful woman isn't gonna bang you unless you buy her shit. Ditch her and move on. There is an infinite supply of women out there. There are more women out there that want to sleep with you than you can logistically ever get to. The day doesn't have enough hours and your life won't have enough days to bang all the hot women that would be willing to bang you. So why waste your time with women that most likely will only take advantage of you?

This. Don't fixate on bitches that don't fixate on you.

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Not going to change.

Oh yes. You are going to get older and less attractive, and the quality of men who are going to be interested in you will rapidly go down. As a woman, time is against you. Doesn't it rock to be a man?

[Freighter]

Oh yes. You are going to get older and less attractive, and the quality of men who are going to be interested in you will rapidly go down. As a woman, time is against you. Doesn't it rock to be a man?

A few years isn't going to do shit about people putting up with it. A few years also isn't going to deter people from wanting to date me.

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Because they like me.

Probably your looks. Can't be your character.

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A few years isn't going to do shit about people putting up with it. A few years also isn't going to deter people from wanting to date me.

How old are you? Expect interest to decline drastically in your 30's.

[Shadowferal]

Probably your looks. Can't be your character.

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How old are you? Expect interest to decline drastically in your 30's.

Well, after you've crawled out from under that fucking rock kid, and grow the hell up, maybe we'll all be more convinced that you can date...someone other than your sister.

[Freighter]

Probably your looks. Can't be your character.

How old are you? Expect interest to decline drastically in your 30's.

Early 20s.

[Arganis]

You have to be a pretty damn poor piece of shit to got on dates just for free dinner. If that was a concern of mine in life, I'd kill myself. Bottom feeder existence, not worth it.

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Early 20s.

In 10 years you hit the wall. Then again, you are Asian. You can still look 20 by the age of 80.

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You have to be a pretty damn poor piece of shit to got on dates just for free dinner. If that was a concern of mine in life, I'd kill myself. Bottom feeder existence, not worth it.

Yes. It's one thing to expect men to pay, but to only go out with them because the food. Man... Whether it's man or woman, I wouldn't do that to another person, no matter what the relationship. That's just plain taking advantage of people. No different than scamming them.

[Ranch]

Free food for them. Free sucky sucky for me. Seems like a win win to me.

[Protean]

Suggest going in halves with her. If you don't have much money then go for coffee or a walk or hike or something. If a chick is really into you she will be extremely flexible and agreeable.

And for the love of god stop going into a situation involving a stranger with concrete expectations. Dinner even if you paid for it doesn't guarantee a damned thing, not even sex.

It should at least guarantee that they are interested in me, and not just a free meal. I think that's a realistic and fair expectation.

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If you don't want this to happen start asking for fairer wages

Ok, will do that as soon as women voluntarily gravitate towards high-income jobs, because they no longer expect jobs to be a temporary thing until they find a piggybank/breadwinner.

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Free food for them. Free sucky sucky for me. Seems like a win win to me.

So you think you need to buy them with food to get sucky sucky? Ideally the "win win" is when you both have sex because you enjoy sex. Anything else is a prostitute/john relationship.

[Post]

Lonely and desperate dudes have existed since forever. At the end of the day a lot of dudes just want to get to the P in V. Nothing will ever change about this regardless of apps, whatchacallems or city.

Good luck!

I love how this is about women using men and you still have to criticize the men.

[Sorshen]

A few years isn't going to do shit about people putting up with it. A few years also isn't going to deter people from wanting to date me.

See, this is exactly what I mean when I said you are most likely stuck up and pretentious.