[Spoilers] Who's gonna control the world souls once...

[Deleted]

Dimensius is an AVATAR of the Void Lord's power. Pls read the Priest Artifact weapon bio's before you make up random Bullshit.

Thank you.

Tried telling it that a few times. Anaxie can be hard to reach sometimes

[Dagoth Ur]

So how will a world soul be born into the world to save everyone?

Will it suddenly be born, and the world crack apart manifesting into a giant being.. In which case destroying the egg it is born from, thus destroying all of the species in azeroth..
or does the planet just become self aware and protect itself some other way?

If they plan to show it in-game I think it's gonna be more like transcendence, Azeroth's spirit leaving the shell and forming Titan body or something like that.
Doubt they're gonna destroy actual world we play in or we're gonna be on her while she's walking and doing stuff, that would just be silly imo.

[therealbowser]

Dimensius is a void lord. Void lords can enter our realm through weak realities. Its the same way other void creatures enter.



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See above

Also he is one of the main void lords because of above

Well with your well thought out and compelling argument, I will offer a compelling counter argument of my own: Nope.

[chubbybunny]

If they plan to show it in-game I think it's gonna be more like transcendence, Azeroth's spirit leaving the shell and forming Titan body or something like that.
Doubt they're gonna destroy actual world we play in or we're gonna be on her while she's walking and doing stuff, that would just be silly imo.

Maybe there's 1 Last quest to release the world soul,

*goes to cinematic* We see the world slowly cracking, and we all realise we've doomed our very existance.

Saragas can be heard laughing saying "Should have let me destroy the world soul to save your planet and your lives"

Finally a giant explosion as azeroth is shattered into pieces and we all die...

Message scrolls up saying "You've finally reached the end of the world of warcraft.... Watch This space for our new MMO!!"

[Valrok]

If they plan to show it in-game I think it's gonna be more like transcendence, Azeroth's spirit leaving the shell and forming Titan body or something like that.
Doubt they're gonna destroy actual world we play in or we're gonna be on her while she's walking and doing stuff, that would just be silly imo.

From WoWPedia/Chronicle:

Described as living worlds, their bodies are covered in mountain peaks and rivers, their forms wrapped in cloaks of stardust and their eyes shining like brilliant stars.[5] Bastions of purity and good, the titans are unable to conceive of evil or wickedness in any form.[6]

Getting the vibe that Titan's bodies literally are the worlds they were the "soul" of, but also Azeroth destroying "Azeroth" would be a great segway into a WoW sequel/timeskip/40k style story change

[Combatbutler]

Azeroth is the only one left. She is the 'Final Titan'.

That is uncertain she is the last titan the other titans were aware of, but they only explored a tiny fragment of the universe itself after all, so there could always be more out there.

[Evangeliste]

Well, personally Sargeras WILL be cleansed by the other Titans or, he will come to see that instead of destroying planets... Make many other planets be like Azeroth, unifying the entire universe against the Void Lords.

Drek'Thal on Broken Shore quite clearly suggests that the Burning Legion are not our enemy - most likely pointing to Sargeras and maybe the other Titans being tortured to become like Argus, mentally broken. And well, if you look at it... Sargeras wants to stop the Void just in a very defaced way. Remove the source altogether which is why he is destroying. But he will see at first hand that Azeroth's denizens are in fact much more powerful then he has bothered to witness before. Illidan will be there nonstop once he becomes the jailer. And it makes me chuckle since Illidan is arrogant enough to probably duke it out against Sargeras verbally haha. One asshole whining to another asshole for as long as eternity.

Sargeras and his dark pantheon are introduced and elimtinated in a patch. Sooooo

They don't become the Dark Pantheon quite really in the sense of following Sargeras' desires in help destroying the universe. The Titans souls in their new bodies are also dragged into the Seat of Pantheon (and you can see them in the Argus fight too sitting there) with Sargeras joining them there later somehow. I think Argus get's potentially eliminated. And basically they play happy families in that Seat with Illidan being their babysitter.

Azeroth is the only one left. She is the 'Final Titan'.

She is the Last Titan, however, Argus does show that there might be others or plenty of Titans/World Souls in the universe that could potentially have been created elsewhere before Azeroth became the very last to gestate. The Titans travellled, but it's vast and they could have missed a few corners. Her being the "Last Titan" isn't wrong, if chronologically Titans A to Y was made and Azeroth happens to be Z.

[anaxie]

Dimensius is an AVATAR of the Void Lord's power. Pls read the Priest Artifact weapon bio's before you make up random Bullshit.

Thank you.

There is no avatar. Its the void lord dimensius himself and you lack some fuckin reading comprehension

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That is uncertain she is the last titan the other titans were aware of, but they only explored a tiny fragment of the universe itself after all, so there could always be more out there.

Yeah except it will never be foubd so its irrelevant

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Well, personally Sargeras WILL be cleansed by the other Titans or, he will come to see that instead of destroying planets... Make many other planets be like Azeroth, unifying the entire universe against the Void Lords.

Drek'Thal on Broken Shore quite clearly suggests that the Burning Legion are not our enemy - most likely pointing to Sargeras and maybe the other Titans being tortured to become like Argus, mentally broken. And well, if you look at it... Sargeras wants to stop the Void just in a very defaced way. Remove the source altogether which is why he is destroying. But he will see at first hand that Azeroth's denizens are in fact much more powerful then he has bothered to witness before. Illidan will be there nonstop once he becomes the jailer. And it makes me chuckle since Illidan is arrogant enough to probably duke it out against Sargeras verbally haha. One asshole whining to another asshole for as long as eternity.

They don't become the Dark Pantheon quite really in the sense of following Sargeras' desires in help destroying the universe. The Titans souls in their new bodies are also dragged into the Seat of Pantheon (and you can see them in the Argus fight too sitting there) with Sargeras joining them there later somehow. I think Argus get's potentially eliminated. And basically they play happy families in that Seat with Illidan being their babysitter.

She is the Last Titan, however, Argus does show that there might be others or plenty of Titans/World Souls in the universe that could potentially have been created elsewhere before Azeroth became the very last to gestate. The Titans travellled, but it's vast and they could have missed a few corners. Her being the "Last Titan" isn't wrong, if chronologically Titans A to Y was made and Azeroth happens to be Z.

If the Titans and the legion never found a world soul youre pathetic mortal will never find one during WoW meaning it will never be written meaning. It doesnt matter

In all of creation only 9 titans have been found

[Violent]

You wrote a spoiler in the thread name. Writing Spoiler ahead of it doesn't make that okay.

Yes it does. It's called a disclaimer.. Read at your own risk.

"Hey, there are sharks in there, but you CAN swim if you want."

Means you can't bitch if you get bit.

[Evangeliste]

If the Titans and the legion never found a world soul youre pathetic mortal will never find one during WoW meaning it will never be written meaning. It doesnt matter

In all of creation only 9 titans have been found

Not even sure what you're saying in the first line. But yeah.
Chronicles doesn't mention Argus despite being a fellow World Soul and Vol. 1 being a lot about the Pantheon. He came up later in the game. Which is why I said, Azeroth may be the last Titan but lore will not supersede that, if Blizzard think it will add to gameplay, there will be more and Argus is exactly that: gameplay/cool factor > lore. Even with the explanation that Azeroth is Titan Z, it will fit exactly that she is the "last Titan" because Argus' history predates any of Azeroth's history. All they need to do is say that this 'newly discovered' World Soul predates us and that's it, fits.

[Dagoth Ur]

Well, personally Sargeras WILL be cleansed by the other Titans or, he will come to see that instead of destroying planets... Make many other planets be like Azeroth, unifying the entire universe against the Void Lords.

Drek'Thal on Broken Shore quite clearly suggests that the Burning Legion are not our enemy - most likely pointing to Sargeras and maybe the other Titans being tortured to become like Argus, mentally broken. And well, if you look at it... Sargeras wants to stop the Void just in a very defaced way. Remove the source altogether which is why he is destroying. But he will see at first hand that Azeroth's denizens are in fact much more powerful then he has bothered to witness before. Illidan will be there nonstop once he becomes the jailer. And it makes me chuckle since Illidan is arrogant enough to probably duke it out against Sargeras verbally haha. One asshole whining to another asshole for as long as eternity.

Lmao now I can't stop imagining how if/once we return to Seat of Pantheon we'll hear Sargeras and Illidan arguing since end of Legion how Illidan ruined Sargy's plan.

The worst thing is they have pretty similar way of thinking and it could come to some kind of agreement between them if Sargy tells Illidan about Void lords.
That's two end justifies the means guys locked in the same room... wonder what could go wrong.

[TriHard]

Sargeras was doing the exact same thing as the void lords though, as illustrated by what he did to Argus and what he has been trying to do with the Pantheon, the only difference is now its only 1 faction doing it.

As for imprisoning Sargeras being a bad idea, my Theory is that the Titans will use the time to try and cleanse him and eventually we will use the Titans to fight the Void lords, just a theory though.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's whats gonna happen too.

[ZenX]

There is no avatar. Its the void lord dimensius himself and you lack some fuckin reading comprehension

Xal'atath whispers: I long for the day our masters can truly pass into this realm. You have only seen fragments, shadows; the faintest of echoes. Ask the Ethereals what one of these manifestations are capable of. (at Star Augur Etraeus)

Please stop going overboard and admit when you are wrong. Dimensius is not a Void Lord, the TBC tag has been pretty much retconned but hasn't been modified in-game to accurately address what it really is.

[anaxie]

Xal'atath whispers: I long for the day our masters can truly pass into this realm. You have only seen fragments, shadows; the faintest of echoes. Ask the Ethereals what one of these manifestations are capable of. (at Star Augur Etraeus)

Please stop going overboard and admit when you are wrong. Dimensius is not a Void Lord, the TBC tag has been pretty much retconned but hasn't been modified in-game to accurately address what it really is.

The void lords are monstrous entities composed of pure shadow energy who dwell within the Void, outside the borders of reality. Merciless and cruel beyond imagination, they seek only to devour all matter and energy and the universe itself. However, only the most powerful of the void lords can actually manifest in the physical universe, and only for limited amounts of time for their energies quickly seep into nothingness. They thus must consume untold amounts of matter and energy to maintain their presence.

How the Voidlord found K'aresh is still hotly debated among the surviving ethereals, but the effects of his coming were unmistakable: he opened countless gateways into the Void and the Twisting Nether around the planet, bathing K'aresh in arcane and dark energies

Xal'atath whispers: I long for the day our masters can truly pass into this realm. You have only seen fragments, shadows; the faintest of echoes. Ask the Ethereals what one of these manifestations are capable of.

I'll spell it out since you apparently have no reading conprehension.

Dimensius was a Void Lords outside his realm meaning a fragment of his power. yet just him coming through and weakened when he passed through still consumed their world.

Red Shirt guy also supports that Dimensius is a Void Lord.

Disprove that Dimensius isn't a Void Lord if you can.


Here read this too if you are still playing dumb

Void lords may need world-souls for other reasons than creating a dark titan. World-souls represent unimaginable sources of energy, which would likely counter the seeping out of a void lord's own energies into nothingness when they manifest in the Great Dark. As such world-souls would serve as anchors to the physical universe for them. Dimensius the All-Devouring was revealed through [Xal'atath, Blade of the Black Empire] to be a manifestation of the void lords.[3] However, he did not have a world-soul at his disposal and thus remained comparatively weak, relying on weakening the barriers between the physical world and the void and consuming matter and energy to grow in power. In this state, Xal'atath called it "the faintest of echoes", "a fragment" of a void lord's true power. Dimensius needed to constantly absorb matter and energy to remain anchored to the Great Dark Beyond, and it took him years to devour the ethereal's homeworld of K'aresh. He was also repelled by the sacrifice of a single naaru, T'uure, while attempting to devour another world. This gives some insight as to the difficulties the void lords face when attempting to manifest in the universe.

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Well, personally Sargeras WILL be cleansed by the other Titans or, he will come to see that instead of destroying planets... Make many other planets be like Azeroth, unifying the entire universe against the Void Lords.

Drek'Thal on Broken Shore quite clearly suggests that the Burning Legion are not our enemy - most likely pointing to Sargeras and maybe the other Titans being tortured to become like Argus, mentally broken. And well, if you look at it... Sargeras wants to stop the Void just in a very defaced way. Remove the source altogether which is why he is destroying. But he will see at first hand that Azeroth's denizens are in fact much more powerful then he has bothered to witness before. Illidan will be there nonstop once he becomes the jailer. And it makes me chuckle since Illidan is arrogant enough to probably duke it out against Sargeras verbally haha. One asshole whining to another asshole for as long as eternity.

They don't become the Dark Pantheon quite really in the sense of following Sargeras' desires in help destroying the universe. The Titans souls in their new bodies are also dragged into the Seat of Pantheon (and you can see them in the Argus fight too sitting there) with Sargeras joining them there later somehow. I think Argus get's potentially eliminated. And basically they play happy families in that Seat with Illidan being their babysitter.

She is the Last Titan, however, Argus does show that there might be others or plenty of Titans/World Souls in the universe that could potentially have been created elsewhere before Azeroth became the very last to gestate. The Titans travellled, but it's vast and they could have missed a few corners. Her being the "Last Titan" isn't wrong, if chronologically Titans A to Y was made and Azeroth happens to be Z.

she wouldn't be called be the Final Titan by Blizzard if they intended for there to be another titan. stop

Infracted.

[ZenX]

I'll spell it out since you apparently have no reading conprehension.

Dimensius was a Void Lords outside his realm meaning a fragment of his power. yet just him coming through and weakened when he passed through still consumed their world.

Red Shirt guy also supports that Dimensius is a Void Lord.

Disprove that Dimensius isn't a Void Lord if you can.


Here read this too if you are still playing dumb

First of all, your hostility is uncalled for and the part with regards to Dimensius devouring K'aresh predates the chronicle as it dates back to 2010. See https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/981828983

Per how they are described in the Chronicle Vol. I, Dimensius being an actual Void Lord is speculative as the chronicle state that Void Lords having sent-in Old Gods across the cosmos rather than fully-manifesting in it themselves.

In their natural state, the void lords exist outside reality. Only the most powerful of these entities can manifest in the physical universe, and only for limited amounts of time. To maintain their presence in reality, the void lords must consume untold amounts of matter and energy.
-- "Denizens of the Cosmos: Void Lords", World of Warcraft: Chronicle Volume 1, pg. 13

From the moment the cosmos came to be, dark spirits within the Void sought to twist reality into a realm of eternal torment. These entities were known as the void lords, and they had long watched the Pantheon and their journey from world to world. Envious of their power, the void lords sought to corrupt one of the world-shaping titans into an instrument of their will.
To achieve this goal, the void lords struggled to manifest in the physical universe. As they did so, their energies seeped into reality, warping some of the unsuspecting denizens of creation. Yet the noble and virtuous titans proved impervious to this insidious corruption.
-- "The Void Lords and the Birth of the Old Gods", World of Warcraft: Chronicle Volume 1, pg. 21

Xal'atath indicates that Dimensius is a manifestation, not a full-blown Void Lord, unless someone made a typo in the respective string passed onto the game client.

[Evangeliste]

I'll spell it out since you apparently have no reading conprehension.

Dimensius was a Void Lords outside his realm meaning a fragment of his power. yet just him coming through and weakened when he passed through still consumed their world.

Red Shirt guy also supports that Dimensius is a Void Lord.

Disprove that Dimensius isn't a Void Lord if you can.


Here read this too if you are still playing dumb


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she wouldn't be called be the Final Titan by Blizzard if they intended for there to be another titan. stop

You don't seem to understand chronological order. Z is the last letter of the alphabet. Doesn't mean A to Y doesn't exist, and that's what Blizzard bank on and done repeatedly with keeping lore open. Like Argus appearing with Azeroth still being the "Last Titan" and no mention of Argus as a monolithic being despite Chronicles Vol. 1 mentioned 'all' the Titans.

Argus and Eredar predates Azeroth by 13,000 years. So by chronological order... Argus being a World Soul before Azeroth still makes Azeroth the last Titan...

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Lmao now I can't stop imagining how if/once we return to Seat of Pantheon we'll hear Sargeras and Illidan arguing since end of Legion how Illidan ruined Sargy's plan.

The worst thing is they have pretty similar way of thinking and it could come to some kind of agreement between them if Sargy tells Illidan about Void lords.
That's two end justifies the means guys locked in the same room... wonder what could go wrong.

I chuckle at the idea too, I feel sorry for the Pantheon who have to sit through it though.

Personally, they are similar with arrogance but both Sargeras and Illidan are so self-absorbed they may never see eye to eye. The only difference is that Illidan is about living, he wants Tyrande to live. Sargeras just wants to remove the source of corruption for Void. The Titans could explain that Illidan is a prime example of letting things live can in fact be stronger, when united and empowered with a purpose.

[TheFirstOnes]

Here's what i'm thinking right now:

The Void Lords are A LOT Stronger than the Pantheon. They're only envious of the Titan's power, mainly cause of the fact that they can't manifest into reality (And even if they could, it's only for limited amounts of time), while the Titan's can (And for unlimited amounts of time). So, to the Void Lords, corrupting a Titan is needed, cause a Void Titan can not only be capable of corrupting the entire Universe alone (Maybe even the Multiverse), but it can also summon the Void Lords into the physical realm. That's why Sargeras knew fear. He never cared about the Void Lords, thinking that they wouldn't enter reality at all, hence making them a side threat. However, with this info on a Dark Titan, and its power, he got pissed scared of not just the Titan, but of the Void Lord's capabilites once they actually enter the Physical fucking realm.

Dimensius is a small, insignificant manifestation of the Void Lord's power. Meanwhile, 1 AVATAR of the Void Lord's (AKA, an Old God) could become bigger than continents and shit like that. If Sargeras' Avatar alone was the size of a big ass building, but could become a near unbeatable threat to the people of Azeroth, and if Sargeras himself is bigger than a Planet, then the Void Lord's must be absolutely TERRIFYING!

People describe the Void Lord's as monsterous creatures (Like from HP Lovecraft, or Warhammer 40k). But to me, I think it's a range. In my eyes, I think the STRONGEST of the Void Lord's should be this Dark Humanoid God. He should have a God Like voice, Dark Armor, A powerful Blade, Unmatched Power, Human esc shape, he should be buffed in scale, and he should ALWAYS Be in the Shadows, until the FINAL WoW raid. Don't make him as terrifying as the Old Gods, nor make him as Pussyish as Sargeras post-chronicle. However, he should be intimidating to the point as to where we'd be SATISFIED with his character.

The Rest can go from Chaotic, to weak if you want. However, I want the Strongest, the most Intelligent, and the Leader of the Void Lord's to be different from the rest. I want him dealt justice.

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So...what do you think?

[Raetary]

Also Dimensius the All-Devouring IS a Void Lord.

he is not.

dimensius is an echo of them.