WoW is a M.E.S.S.

[Kokolums]

Wow is not an MMO. It hasn't been for some time. An MMO actually focus on a community in game. What is a better acronym? I was think Massive Environment for Single-player Situations or MESS for short. What do you think? It seems to capture the essence of what they are doing. A massive world they increasingly fill with solo content.

[Justpassing]

Sounds stolen.

[anaxie]

Massive. Check
Multiplayer. Check
Onlinw. Check
Rpg check

The fact wows majoe focus is mythic + and especiallly RAIDS makes your argument become absolutely worthless

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[Lartok]

Wow is not an MMO. It hasn't been for some time. An MMO actually focus on a community in game. What is a better acronym? I was think Massive Environment for Single-player Situations or MESS for short. What do you think? It seems to capture the essence of what they are doing. A massive world they increasingly fill with solo content.

I'm pretty sure I can't do Mythic ToS solo.

[cparle87]

/yawn. Yeah, this is a totally new idea that's never happened before. It has a large number of people who all share the same game world through their internet, it's an mmo. You play as a character in that world according to a race and class you decided on, it's an rpg.

[Kul Tiras]

Legion has copy pasted a lot of world content mechanics from Guild Wars 2 (and re-labelled everything, of course) in an attempt to get players in the outside world and I think it's worked well enough to keep the world more alive and community oriented, however, as per blizzard fashion it hasn't gone far enough, since the new daily quests are just that, got to a location and kill some shit get some loot, wait for the reset next day.

What Guild Wars 2 does is that these events never end, and they're multi phase. You save some village then go on the offensive then help an escort and it makes you travel the map, it's much more engaging and encourages large groups of people sticking together. On top of that the content is in every zone of every level because everyone can get something from these events which benefits them, so every zone is never truly empty, there's always groups of people doing stuff and no one is limited to say Broken Isles or Argus for meaningful content reward-wise.

[cparle87]

I'm pretty sure I can't do Mythic ToS solo.

Ssssh. Don't let little things like facts confuse him.

[Justpassing]

I'm pretty sure I can't do Mythic ToS solo.

You just have to believe in yourself!

[cparle87]

Legion has copy pasted a lot of world content mechanics from Guild Wars 2 (and re-labelled everything, of course) in an attempt to get players in the outside world and I think it's worked well enough to keep the world more alive and community oriented, however, as per blizzard fashion it hasn't gone far enough, since the new daily quests are just that, got to a location and kill some shit get some loot, wait for the reset next day.

What Guild Wars 2 does is that these events never end, and they're multi phase. You save some village then go on the offensive then help an escort and it makes you travel the map, it's much more engaging and encourages large groups of people sticking together. On top of that the content is in every zone of every level because everyone can get something from these events which benefits them, so every zone is never truly empty, there's always groups of people doing stuff and no one is limited to say Broken Isles or Argus for meaningful content reward-wise.

So does that mean that people are still doing stuff in the same starting zone they've been playing in since the first day they started the game, just in phases and junk? I can't speak for anyone else, but no matter how many new things they gave me to do eventually I'd be sick to death of Mulgore.

[Tiwack]

Themepark sandbox. mmo is still there if you want to socialize.

[Heeresman]

Low effort thread

[Super Kami Dende]

Wow is not an MMO. It hasn't been for some time. An MMO actually focus on a community in game. What is a better acronym? I was think Massive Environment for Single-player Situations or MESS for short. What do you think? It seems to capture the essence of what they are doing. A massive world they increasingly fill with solo content.

There are communities in WOW you can join in, if you aren't a self-righteous, introverted, Autist.

Which I tend to find people that complain about having no interactions in WoW generally are.

infracted

[Kul Tiras]

So does that mean that people are still doing stuff in the same starting zone they've been playing in since the first day they started the game, just in phases and junk?

You can do whatever the hell you want. You can play in the top level zone or the lowest level zone, every zone is full of world bosses and multi phase activities which can be soloed or which in some cases take groups. So if you feel like doing events in Elwynn Forest all day you can. If you wanna go to Hyjal, you can. You'll be rewarded for your time all the same, and you'll have people to play with.

[Justpassing]

Low effort thread

Would've been a much better thread if OP had tried to put some substance in rather than self-insertion of some bit he stole from reddit or trade chat.

[Eleccybubb]

Wow is not an MMO. It hasn't been for some time. An MMO actually focus on a community in game. What is a better acronym? I was think Massive Environment for Single-player Situations or MESS for short. What do you think? It seems to capture the essence of what they are doing. A massive world they increasingly fill with solo content.

Genre doesn't change because you don't like certain pieces of content.

Not how it works.

[-aiko-]

Um, no. Last I checked the content I was doing required 20 players.

[Eleccybubb]

You can do whatever the hell you want. You can play in the top level zone or the lowest level zone, every zone is full of world bosses and multi phase activities which can be soloed or which in some cases take groups. So if you feel like doing events in Elwynn Forest all day you can. If you wanna go to Hyjal, you can. You'll be rewarded for your time all the same, and you'll have people to play with.

What events does Elwynn have other than holiday dailies when they are up?

[Kokolums]

Massive. Check
Multiplayer. Check
Onlinw. Check
Rpg check

The fact wows majoe focus is mythic + and especiallly RAIDS makes your argument become absolutely worthless

/thread

Almost every new innovation removes the multiplayer element. The multiplayer part isnt really what this game wants to be. Its not an mmo.

[Eleccybubb]

Almost every new innovation removes the multiplayer element. The multiplayer part isnt really what this game wants to be. Its not an mmo.

Again you don't get to decide that because you dislike the current iteration of the game. You get to have the opinion that it isn't. Simple as that.

Try again.

[Loosecannon]

I agree it's further from a traditional RPG than it used to be, however it's definitely still a MMORPG.