Justice Dept. sides with baker who refused to make wedding cake for gay couple

[Doctor Amadeus]

Maybe you should enact laws to protect them rather than thinking a parade fixes the problems.

No fuck the law force and change attitudes I love gay people and I want them to feel welcomed everywhere anybody else generally has a right. People that don't like it can go fuck themselves.

[s_bushido]

Company refuse service to neo nazi/homophobe and/or fire someone for being one :

TIL political ideologies are the same as sexual orientations.

[Tenjen]

business related decisions by owners and employees should stick to business related matters. Biased behavior based on a persons traits unrelated to business, have to be curbed through legal enforcement. They are a poisonous cancer in society if allowed.

Behaviour with motivations outside of and contrary to the functioning of a healthy business and community at large must be discouraged.

[Doctor Amadeus]

You don't discriminate nor do you mock by having a parade for straight people.

Because there's no need for one reasonably or logically.

[Freighter]

No fuck the law force and change attitudes I love gay people and I want them to feel welcomed everywhere anybody else generally has a right. People that don't like it can go fuck themselves.

So you don't want to protect homosexuals.

[Zython]

Maybe you should enact laws to protect them rather than thinking a parade fixes the problems.

First, I said luxury goods.

No, you did not.

Things that aren't required to live. There is no reason that a country founded on and touts freedom should restrict completely privately owned businesses from operating how they see fit if they aren't actually hurting anyone.
Refusing a cake to a kids birthday or to a gay couples wedding is the same thing. They lose business and only hurt themselves.

The law does not differentiate between those types of businesses in regards to discrimination.

Pouring acid in rivers and killing your customers isn't legal period. Why are you trying to argue with such a stupid point? Can you not see how stupid that point is?

Neither is gender discrimination. Funny that.

Insurance is already a fucked up business that lives on killing people, and sure I'll give you that one but that's a whole other issue that needs addressed on it's own. It isn't, and should not be, a private business nor is it a luxury good.

Fair enough, but there are other institutions. Hospitals, adoption agencies, grocery stores, etc.

[Freighter]

Because there's no need for one reasonably or logically.

There's no need for pride parades either.

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Not sure how that is relevant. Do you think pride parades stop murder more effectively than law enforcement locking up people who are a threat to homosexual people?

[jibberbox85]

You aren't born a white supremacist neo nazi. Nice try.

By your logic not everyone who stands up for their rights that has the opposite view point to you is a Nazi/Homophobe and or White supremacist, KKK and or Hilter.

[Doctor Amadeus]

So you don't want to protect homosexuals.

No I don't want them to need protecting. I like one day they don't have to think about it.

[Freighter]

No I don't want them to need protecting. I like one day they don't have to think about it.

Go live in your own dream world then.

[Zython]

Irony is that people who were clapping for this are now deeply offended by the same thing. Double meter.

The fact that you were offended by that, and not the issue they were highlighting is precisely the problem.

How many people was killed last year for specifically being gay? Give me some numbers.

Here you are.

[Doctor Amadeus]

By your logic not everyone who stands up for their rights that has the opposite view point to you is a Nazi/Homophobe and or White supremacist, KKK and or Hilter.

No I didn't conflate white stop throwing white people under the bus it's other races to and not all the same.

[Zython]

Not sure how that is relevant. Do you think pride parades stop murder more effectively than law enforcement locking up people who are a threat to homosexual people?

Same reason that this:



is more likely to stop a murder than this.

Minorities need to rely on their communities to protect them, because the police sure as hell won't.

[Eazy]

They serve the public they don't get to pick and choose based on orientation.

But it's still private, so that means they can do whatever they want to, even selling cakes only for the white males. The market will sort their work, not SJWs.

[Freighter]

Maybe when we enact those laws they'll stop having parades that piss certain people off. Until then we have a Justice department siding with discrimination against them, that's reason enough to demonstrate and hold parades.

Parades aren't going to change peoples minds. I support LGBT rights but I'm annoyed by parades. Do you think someone who hates LGBT people will change their mind because of a parade?

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Minorities need to rely on their communities to protect them, because the police sure as hell won't.

Sounds like you should vote for other politicians.

[Doctor Amadeus]

But it's still private, so that means they can do whatever they want to, even selling cakes only for the white males. The market will sort their work, not SJWs.

No they fucking don't and we can fight forever if need but I'll do so until I drop to defend the rights of gay people over these homophobic assholes.

[Zython]

Sounds like you should vote for other politicians.

Yes, we do need more socialists in office.

[Keltas]

No, you did not.
The law does not differentiate between those types of businesses in regards to discrimination.
Fair enough, but there are other institutions. Hospitals, adoption agencies, grocery stores, etc.

The first thing I said was luxury goods. I'm not arguing public services, I'm not saying vital services, I'm saying luxury services. If the law doesn't differentiate then it should, and plenty of other laws do.

Pretty sure hospitals would fall under that. Honestly I don't really know how adoption agencies work but I'm sure they get some kind of public funding to fall under that, and as I said directly in 2? posts ago grocery stores should fall under public service (although I sincerely doubt any grocery store is gonna suddenly turn away customers. There really isn't that many bigoted people out there. There really isn't.)

Edit: Just to add, I fully am against them and their views, but I think restricting people this way is not only a double edged sword, but is completely against all of these freedoms that so many people want and ask for. I hate defending them, I really do.

[Doctor Amadeus]

Parades aren't going to change peoples minds. I support LGBT rights but I'm annoyed by parades.

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Sounds like you should vote for other politicians.

Parades don't hurt. It's not about just changing people's minds it's about saying come out and let your love show. Not just sexually.

[Freighter]

Parades raise awareness and help normalize something bigots would prefer to marginalize.

Parades annoy a lot of people, it doesn't help normalizing anything if you piss people off.