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  1. #61
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    Poland is a country full of leeches hypocrites, they are proud to be anti-immigrant while their own country produces more immigrants than any other european country.
    Poland get's billions of Euros from the EU to develop their shitty country while refusing to do ANYTHING in return.
    Poles are good at opening their hands and take benefits from their neighbours, but they categorically refuse to do anything in return.
    Poland should be kicked out of the EU.

  2. #62
    Well the EU fines are mandatory.
    The polish fines are pointless.

    But what can you expect for a country that is rapidly moving towards becoming the EUs own little banana republic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muadiib View Post
    Poland, get out of the EU while you still can. You'll have friends in the UK and US (and by extension all of our friends) after you leave.
    Yeah the UK really loves Poland, just go look at the great coverage they have in all the Murdoch papers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomzy View Post
    I still don't understand the EU.
    Most of our EU inhabitants don't understand it either.
    It's way out of our control anyway, raging at such a political system is about as effective as raging against a storm.

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    There is already a thread about Polish reparation demands. These fines were neither handed out by Germany nor was the reparation demand a response to this. This is why people are bad at media literacy these days.

    It's like saying: More people confess being agnostic these days than 20 years ago, hurricane "Irma" strikes coast of Florida.

    It's the underlying message that is generated. I have no issues with reparation demand talks, or EU trying to fine Poland for something (EU fines are always a mixed bag and their effects rely a lot on compliance of those being fined.) But both have nothing to do with eachother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warning View Post
    Just a little show for Polish nationals. Wow look at the Polish government being bad ass, we should totally keep voting for them! So easy to fool simple people I guess.
    Amusing, I am pretty sure that the Polish people will keep election Orban for exactly the same reason you EU lovers hate him, because he has the balls to stand up to the SJW politics of Merkel and the rest of her stupid friends in the EU. Fuck immigration quotas, and fuck Merkel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Should just disband the EU and reform it with the orginal 6.
    They should abandon the EU project and go back to the EEC.

    No bullshit international courts or parliaments with no respect for member states.
    Me not that kind of Orc!

  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy View Post
    Lol'd. Because of two thing:
    -you reading comprehension is abysmal and you don't know how to read properly, lol,
    -you started to attack me personally, because I have right and I'm 99,9% sure I'm more succesful in life than you,
    1. France, Charlie Hebdoo Shooters (French nationalities)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charli...ing#Assailants
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amedy_Coulibaly

    2. France, November 2015 attacks (Belgian and French Nationalities)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdelhamid_Abaaoud
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salah_Abdeslam (and his brother)


    3. Terrorist attack in Belgium (Belgian and Swedish Nationalities)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_El_Bakraoui
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Najim_Laachraoui
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_Abrini
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_El_Bakraoui
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_Krayem

    4. Nice truck attack (Moved to Nice in 2005).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_Lahouaiej-Bouhlel

    5. Berlin truck attack (came to Europe through Italy in 2015).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_B...tack#Anis_Amri

    6. Manchester Arena (born in Manchester, lived in Fallowfield, UK).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_M...mbing#Attacker

    7. London Bridge attacks.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_2..._Bridge_attack
    1st grew up in the UK and lived there.
    2nd grew up abroad, but lived in Ireland predating the Syrian crisis.
    3rd lived and worked in or around London.

    8. Catalonia attacks.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Catalonia_attacks
    1st lived in Ripoll, Spain, from the age of 4
    2nd lived and worked in Ripoll, Spain
    3rd been living legally in Spain since 2005
    4th been living in Spain
    5th unknown
    6th Been in Spain since 2002

    Let's do the math 23 total attackers:

    21 attackers had European nationalities
    1 attacker is unknown
    1 attacker came into Italy in 2015.

    So that's 91.3% of all European attacks since 2011 which were committed by attackers that lived, worked within European borders. The only thing that needs to be mentioned is that a few of them traveled between EU and Syria months before their attacks, but they were not part of the refugee streams (that came from Syria the past few years).

    Could the numbers change in the future, of course they can, but as of right now, seems that Europeans travelling to Syria or having travelled to Syria during the conflict, being a much bigger threat than the refugees, of course, this can change, and this does not include failed of foiled terrorism plots.

    Not to mention it depends on how the country labels it, many times the lone wolfs are seen as crazy individuals that were desperate and not necessarily linked to terrorism, as mentioned those can change depending on if the investigation is still ongoing.

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    Seems you have more issues than my so called reading issues.
    Last edited by mmoc925aeb179c; 2017-09-10 at 12:50 PM.

  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by EUPLEB View Post
    We'll see what Poland does when we take 13 billion EUR away from their annual budget.
    Seize assets of non-Polish EU companies within their borders?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsybob View Post
    They should abandon the EU project and go back to the EEC.

    No bullshit international courts or parliaments with no respect for member states.
    The international courts and parliaments are the best things of the EU, and they do respect member states as they mainly look at the law of the member state to make verdicts.

  11. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomyris View Post
    Is this about polish immigrants? I beg to differ, from those I know, only a handful were jackasses, the rest are OK.
    Its about Muslim immigrants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osmeric View Post
    Seize assets of non-Polish EU companies within their borders?
    Which would be still far less than 13 billion, everyone kinda knows and statistics show that the majority of assets are located in Germany, France, Benelux and the UK.

  13. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by EUPLEB View Post
    1. France, Charlie Hebdoo Shooters (French nationalities)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charli...ing#Assailants
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amedy_Coulibaly

    2. France, November 2015 attacks (Belgian and French Nationalities)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdelhamid_Abaaoud
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salah_Abdeslam (and his brother)


    3. Terrorist attack in Belgium (Belgian and Swedish Nationalities)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_El_Bakraoui
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Najim_Laachraoui
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_Abrini
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_El_Bakraoui
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_Krayem

    4. Nice truck attack (Moved to Nice in 2005).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_Lahouaiej-Bouhlel

    5. Berlin truck attack (came to Europe through Italy in 2015).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_B...tack#Anis_Amri

    6. Manchester Arena (born in Manchester, lived in Fallowfield, UK).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_M...mbing#Attacker

    7. London Bridge attacks.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_2..._Bridge_attack
    1st grew up in the UK and lived there.
    2nd grew up abroad, but lived in Ireland predating the Syrian crisis.
    3rd lived and worked in or around London.

    8. Catalonia attacks.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Catalonia_attacks
    1st lived in Ripoll, Spain, from the age of 4
    2nd lived and worked in Ripoll, Spain
    3rd been living legally in Spain since 2005
    4th been living in Spain
    5th unknown
    6th Been in Spain since 2002

    Let's do the math 23 total attackers:

    21 attackers had European nationalities
    1 attacker is unknown
    1 attacker came into Italy in 2015.

    So that's 91.3% of all European attacks since 2011 which were committed by attackers that lived, worked within European borders. The only thing that needs to be mentioned is that a few of them traveled between EU and Syria months before their attacks, but they were not part of the refugee streams (that came from Syria the past few years).

    Could the numbers change in the future, of course they can, but as of right now, seems that Europeans travelling to Syria or having travelled to Syria during the conflict, being a much bigger threat than the refugees, of course, this can change, and this does not include failed of foiled terrorism plots.

    -

    Seems you have more issues than my so called reading issues.
    So? They never should have been here to begin with. Take immigrants, their grandchildren will blow your mind!

  14. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by EUPLEB View Post
    Keep believing yourself, you'll get far in life, oh wait you won't.

    1. France, Charlie Hebdoo Shooters (French nationalities)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charli...ing#Assailants
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amedy_Coulibaly

    2. France, November 2015 attacks (Belgian and French Nationalities)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdelhamid_Abaaoud
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salah_Abdeslam (and his brother)


    3. Terrorist attack in Belgium (Belgian and Swedish Nationalities)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_El_Bakraoui
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Najim_Laachraoui
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_Abrini
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_El_Bakraoui
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_Krayem

    4. Nice truck attack (Moved to Nice in 2005).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_Lahouaiej-Bouhlel

    5. Berlin truck attack (came to Europe through Italy in 2015).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_B...tack#Anis_Amri

    6. Manchester Arena (born in Manchester, lived in Fallowfield, UK).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_M...mbing#Attacker

    7. London Bridge attacks.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_2..._Bridge_attack
    1st grew up in the UK and lived there.
    2nd grew up abroad, but lived in Ireland predating the Syrian crisis.
    3rd lived and worked in or around London.

    8. Catalonia attacks.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Catalonia_attacks
    1st lived in Ripoll, Spain, from the age of 4
    2nd lived and worked in Ripoll, Spain
    3rd been living legally in Spain since 2005
    4th been living in Spain
    5th unknown
    6th Been in Spain since 2002

    Let's do the math 23 total attackers:

    21 attackers had European nationalities
    1 attacker is unknown
    1 attacker came into Italy in 2015.

    So that's 91.3% of all European attacks since 2011 which were committed by attackers that lived, worked within European borders. The only thing that needs to be mentioned is that a few of them traveled between EU and Syria months before their attacks, but they were not part of the refugee streams.

    Could the numbers change in the future, of course they can, but as of right now, seems that Europeans travelling to Syria or having travelled to Syria during the conflict, being a much bigger threat than the refugees, of course, this can change, and this does not include failed of foiled terrorism plots.
    What are you trying to prove and what does it have in common with my comment? Just read it once more, slowly.

    That forum would be much better place if people actually read the comments intead of starting useless shitstorms and trying to troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsybob View Post
    They should abandon the EU project and go back to the EEC.

    No bullshit international courts or parliaments with no respect for member states.
    Not to rain on your parade but, the EEC already had interneational courts because how else do you think that would've worked?
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    So, look um, I'm not a grief counselor, but if it's any consolation, I have had to kill and bury loved ones before. A bunch of times actually.
    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

  16. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valium104 View Post
    So? They never should have been here to begin with. Take immigrants, their grandchildren will blow your mind!
    Why shouldn't they have been here, if they received nationality it means they had no prior criminal records and have role model behavior, and lived in the country for at least 5 years, or they were born into the nationality. You can't deny everyone because you are scared one might be a terrorist, because then everyone.... even your own citizens could be seen as a possible threat.

    And going by terrorism experts, they even said the problem is EU citizens who aren't doing well, going to Syria and coming back to take revenge on society of which they think it has failed them. Hence why they started monitoring those citizens much more closely now.
    Last edited by mmoc925aeb179c; 2017-09-10 at 12:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy View Post
    What are you trying to prove and what does it have in common with my comment? Just read it once more, slowly.

    That forum would be much better place if people actually read the comments intead of starting useless shitstorms and trying to troll.
    You got called out on your nonsense, trying to claim to be more intelligent or having good reading and comprehension skills simply makes an even bigger fool of you now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    You got called out on your nonsense, trying to claim to be more intelligent or having good reading and comprehension skills simply makes an even bigger fool of you now.
    Why so? My comment is not nonsense, it's truth(give me coutner-argument for that, if you can't then remain silent because I don't want to waste my time). I didn't claim that I'm more intelligent(give me source). It's not making me a fool at all. Because all I see are ignorant people who have narrowed point of view and don't know how to read properly. It's getting ridiculous now how pathetic this discussion has become.
    Last edited by Eazy; 2017-09-10 at 01:03 PM.

  19. #79
    I still don't understand the EU. Our politicians are already shitty enough and they are the ones we voted for... I can't imagine another country's shitty politicians dictating how our country should be run on top of it.
    I feel like the biggest PR problem the EU has is that 90% of its citiziens seems to have no idea what it does, what its for and how it works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy View Post
    Why so? My comment is not nonsense, it's truth. I didn't claim that I'm more intelligent. It's not making me a fool at all. Because all I see are ignorant people who have narrowed point of view and don't know how to read properly. It's getting ridiculous now how pathetic this discussion has become.
    Yes you have gotten fairly pathetic, i agree

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