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    Is it a good time to buy an SSD?

    So it's been a while since I've last upgraded my computer and I haven't been following all the tech news and releases etc.

    I just recently started upgrading my specs part by part. Next on my list is an SSD but I was wondering is it a good time now to buy an SSD or are we anticipating a new wave of releases or possibly newer technology soon?

    What would you recommend for a 256GB SSD? I was thinking of getting the Samsung 850 Evo but it seems a bit dated by now (2014.) Does this really matter? Also, are PCIe SSDs worth the price difference?

    Main purpose of the build is gaming (no streaming, no Adobe or anything like that) and I'm mostly playing PUBG right now.

    Thank you.
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    Not really much going on new that's major coming up. There is a NAND shortage though so SSDs are about 30-40% more expensive than last year. Personally I say take a look at the Crucial BX300.

    Unless you need the read/write of PCI-e NVMe cards, I wouldn't bother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Googles View Post
    So it's been a while since I've last upgraded my computer and I haven't been following all the tech news and releases etc.

    I just recently started upgrading my specs part by part. Next on my list is an SSD but I was wondering is it a good time now to buy an SSD or are we anticipating a new wave of releases or possibly newer technology soon?

    What would you recommend for a 256GB SSD? I was thinking of getting the Samsung 850 Evo but it seems a bit dated by now (2014.) Does this really matter? Also, are PCIe SSDs worth the price difference?

    Main purpose of the build is gaming (no streaming, no Adobe or anything like that) and I'm mostly playing PUBG right now.

    Thank you.
    The price for PCIe SSD's is worth if you are playing games with a lot of load times, like skyrim where you enter/exit buildings very often. It's also VERY worth it for general Windows performance.
    There is Intel Optane coming out, sometime soon (tm). But price might be an issue to most people.

    As for 850 being dated, I got the 750 for my work PC which is even older than 850, simply due to lower price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrops View Post
    There is Intel Optane coming out, sometime soon (tm). But price might be an issue to most people.

    As for 850 being dated, I got the 750 for my work PC which is even older than 850, simply due to lower price.
    I would not count on optane for consumers comming out anytime soon and the 750 evo's are more recent then the 850 but as far as I know those have been discontinued rather fast after launch not sure why, I though it was ment to be a more budget oriented line.

    Samsungs 850 series are however still considered among the best you can buy atm.

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    NAND shortage is definitely a thing, but it's not going to get any better anytime soon, it's pretty safe to say that the situation will remain at least stable for 1.5 years going forward. There are QLC (quad layer chips) memory chips coming to the market pretty soon, but so far it's unclear how good the SSDs using them are going to be. It's pretty safe to say that they are gonna be cheaper and read speeds are gonna be competitive, but it's too early to say anything about reliability or other aspects of performance. I wouldnt recommend jumping on to the new tech as soon as it comes out, let them iron out possible problems first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denpepe View Post
    I would not count on optane for consumers comming out anytime soon and the 750 evo's are more recent then the 850 but as far as I know those have been discontinued rather fast after launch not sure why, I though it was ment to be a more budget oriented line.

    Samsungs 850 series are however still considered among the best you can buy atm.
    Oh, I thought it was 700 followed by 800 then 900, weird naming policy.
    But yea, I can't find 750 anymore (I assumed it was older than 850, since it was cheaper back when I bought it).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Googles View Post
    So it's been a while since I've last upgraded my computer and I haven't been following all the tech news and releases etc.

    I just recently started upgrading my specs part by part. Next on my list is an SSD but I was wondering is it a good time now to buy an SSD or are we anticipating a new wave of releases or possibly newer technology soon?

    What would you recommend for a 256GB SSD? I was thinking of getting the Samsung 850 Evo but it seems a bit dated by now (2014.) Does this really matter? Also, are PCIe SSDs worth the price difference?

    Main purpose of the build is gaming (no streaming, no Adobe or anything like that) and I'm mostly playing PUBG right now.

    Thank you.
    I built my computer 5 -6 years ago and got a SSD then, 256 GB samsung one. It was pretty new out and cost a fair bit (pretty sure its the one you linked, or at-least an early version). I checked on it the other day and it's still running at 95%.

    I'm also building a new system myself and sticking with an SSD, I don't think anything newer is on the horizon to replace it, but they are getting more durable and higher memory capacity. I got warned when I first built mine not to go over 256 as they get temperamental and just to load my OS and core software on it.

    But this time I'm also investing into a M.2 SSD 128gb and Intel 16GB optane memory. I'm not 100% on what they do, but from reading up lightily it seems to be mainly related to gaming. They are also relatively cheap

    The PCI-E SSD drive with 400 gb is a little bit much for my budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrops View Post
    The price for PCIe SSD's is worth if you are playing games with a lot of load times, like skyrim where you enter/exit buildings very often. It's also VERY worth it for general Windows performance.
    There is Intel Optane coming out, sometime soon (tm). But price might be an issue to most people.

    As for 850 being dated, I got the 750 for my work PC which is even older than 850, simply due to lower price.
    Quote Originally Posted by Denpepe View Post
    I would not count on optane for consumers comming out anytime soon and the 750 evo's are more recent then the 850 but as far as I know those have been discontinued rather fast after launch not sure why, I though it was ment to be a more budget oriented line.

    Samsungs 850 series are however still considered among the best you can buy atm.
    Now I'm slightly confused, I'm using PCspecialist and I can get the optane with them 16GB - 50 GBP : 32gb - 72GBP

    And it's available now?

    Or is that just really shitty memory for what they are?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rotted View Post
    I built my computer 5 -6 years ago and got a SSD then, 256 GB samsung one. It was pretty new out and cost a fair bit (pretty sure its the one you linked, or at-least an early version). I checked on it the other day and it's still running at 95%.

    I'm also building a new system myself and sticking with an SSD, I don't think anything newer is on the horizon to replace it, but they are getting more durable and higher memory capacity. I got warned when I first built mine not to go over 256 as they get temperamental and just to load my OS and core software on it.

    But this time I'm also investing into a M.2 SSD 128gb and Intel 16GB optane memory. I'm not 100% on what they do, but from reading up lightily it seems to be mainly related to gaming. They are also relatively cheap

    The PCI-E SSD drive with 400 gb is a little bit much for my budget.

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    Now I'm slightly confused, I'm using PCspecialist and I can get the optane with them 16GB - 50 GBP : 32gb - 72GBP

    And it's available now?

    Or is that just really shitty memory for what they are?
    I guess I should have specified more, only Intel Optane memory is for sale, while the topic is for SSD's, and Intel Optane SSD's aren't available yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrops View Post
    I guess I should have specified more, only Intel Optane memory is for sale, while the topic is for SSD's, and Intel Optane SSD's aren't available yet.
    Ah I see, cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rotted View Post

    Now I'm slightly confused, I'm using PCspecialist and I can get the optane with them 16GB - 50 GBP : 32gb - 72GBP

    And it's available now?

    Or is that just really shitty memory for what they are?
    The optane stuff you can buy now, you need a kaby lake or newer CPU and it's basically a sort of cache for people with slow hard drives on modern computers so it will store the data you use most often so it loads quicker, a bit like those hybrid SSD/HDD type things.

    It would be nice to speed up an old PC but does not work on those and kind of useless on a modern one with a decent SSD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denpepe View Post
    The optane stuff you can buy now, you need a kaby lake or newer CPU and it's basically a sort of cache for people with slow hard drives on modern computers so it will store the data you use most often so it loads quicker, a bit like those hybrid SSD/HDD type things.

    It would be nice to speed up an old PC but does not work on those and kind of useless on a modern one with a decent SSD.
    Oh I'm going for a complete new build not a upgrade, just the basics so to speak: a ASUS gaming 7 mobo is it? I7, a 1080, 16gb ram and a new SSD. The option is there for the Optane memory on the custominsation options so assuming its all compatible

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    Microcenter usually has Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD's on sale for $140, but it's always in-store only.

    Normal price is around $175.

    Looks like Amazon and Newegg are matching the price right now too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rotted View Post
    Oh I'm going for a complete new build not a upgrade, just the basics so to speak: a ASUS gaming 7 mobo is it? I7, a 1080, 16gb ram and a new SSD. The option is there for the Optane memory on the custominsation options so assuming its all compatible
    NVMe drives aren't really worth the cost unless you are doing very disk/IO intensive work and no games don't count.

    https://www.techspot.com/news/61015-...oad-times.html

    The optane is basically useless for the 16gb/32gb that are readily available. There are PCIe Optane cards available now, but those are expensive (like most enterprise SSDs) and have strength/weaknesses compared to conventional SSDs. They're not clearly superior overall.

    The really interesting optane drives aren't really available yet, but they're not conventional drive. They're part of a memory DIMM module and are designed to give VASTLY more ram with persistence (won't loose content when power is turned off). I think that may be what Cyrops was referring to, they're not due out until some time in 2018 and are almost certainly going to be enterprise level items (and prices). Probably looking at at least 2-3 yrs after that, before they get down to something at the consumer affordability level.
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    I have 3 Samsung EVOs in my equpment (2 notebooks, one PC) They appear to be working perfectly now.
    I do honestly reocmmend buying them (or Maxtor - those are also good ;p)

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    if you can wait for the strange amerikan holiday that has somewhat transferred cheap shit for a couple days to the rest of the world of online sales - i got a 500gb ssd for a very snazzy price last november!

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