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  1. #201
    Quote Originally Posted by Kathranis View Post
    I'm pretty surprised by the number of people saying Alleria is going to turn evil, given that the entire point of that questline, along with the Xe'ra stuff, was ostensibly to show us that what we need is a balance between Light and Shadow, and that they're not inherently good and evil.

    Yeah, they can always spin this into "Alleria is evil," but for now the whole point seems to be "the void actually isn't pure evil!"
    I think you're most certainly on the right track with this train of thought. This patch has done quite a lot to show that while usually tending toward the good, the Light can go too far and be wrong. There are of course examples of this in other places in the game and Lore, but this hammers it home even more. Now we're seeing that the Shadow/Void, while tending toward the negative, can be used for good if handled in a very delicate and careful way. Alleria is doing something that we haven't really seen before in consuming the hearts of Void revenants and dark naaru, and that's something that's setting her apart as a major named Lore character. But the point this week's content has striven to make is that the Shadow/Void can actually be used without devolving into total Void Lord/Old God manipulation and insanity. And we have examples of that in the game and have for years. Obviously shadow priests are the first things that come to mind. They get dangerously close to the Void Lords/Old Gods, but they somehow still keep a shred of themselves intact. Warlocks, specifically affliction locks, have been dabbling in the Shadow in a more caster-y sense while keeping their distance from the mind melting of the malevolent entities that live within the Void. And while not everyone loves agreeing with this one, rogues, particularly sub rogues, have been dabbling in the Shadow in a more physically-enhancing way in the same fashion.

    This patch has really done a lot to clarify some things about the Light and the Shadow that at the same time help to justify a lot of the choices player characters have had for some time. What Alleria is going through in learning how to use the Void without losing herself to it isn't something that's a foreign concept to the universe. It's just her own journey to arrive at a very similar destination, albeit in a slightly more extreme, Void-eating sort of way.

  2. #202
    Quote Originally Posted by Neurodilation View Post
    I think you're most certainly on the right track with this train of thought. This patch has done quite a lot to show that while usually tending toward the good, the Light can go too far and be wrong. There are of course examples of this in other places in the game and Lore, but this hammers it home even more. Now we're seeing that the Shadow/Void, while tending toward the negative, can be used for good if handled in a very delicate and careful way. Alleria is doing something that we haven't really seen before in consuming the hearts of Void revenants and dark naaru, and that's something that's setting her apart as a major named Lore character. But the point this week's content has striven to make is that the Shadow/Void can actually be used without devolving into total Void Lord/Old God manipulation and insanity. And we have examples of that in the game and have for years. Obviously shadow priests are the first things that come to mind. They get dangerously close to the Void Lords/Old Gods, but they somehow still keep a shred of themselves intact. Warlocks, specifically affliction locks, have been dabbling in the Shadow in a more caster-y sense while keeping their distance from the mind melting of the malevolent entities that live within the Void. And while not everyone loves agreeing with this one, rogues, particularly sub rogues, have been dabbling in the Shadow in a more physically-enhancing way in the same fashion.

    This patch has really done a lot to clarify some things about the Light and the Shadow that at the same time help to justify a lot of the choices player characters have had for some time. What Alleria is going through in learning how to use the Void without losing herself to it isn't something that's a foreign concept to the universe. It's just her own journey to arrive at a very similar destination, albeit in a slightly more extreme, Void-eating sort of way.
    Agreed.

    Blizzard for once manages to leave the universe more interesting after an expansion by adding more shades of grey(dark).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chantique View Post
    3 Xal'atath quotes makes me think Alleria will not resist the call of the void:

    Xal'atath "Long have we sought entry to this realm! To think we have a mortal to thank for giving us our foothold. Your service will be remembered!"

    Xal'atath "This one shows promise. The whispers lure HER toward HER fate!"

    Xal'atath "The caterpillar has become the butterfly. She is all but ours now!"
    I just sad it above lol, after you finish the dungeon, she says: ''The caterpillar has become the butterfly. She is all but ours now!"

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    Windrunners are the Skywalkers of Warcraft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Friendlyimmolation View Post
    Like the many faced demon mount thing on Argus.
    But more scary.

  6. #206
    Quote Originally Posted by gypsybob View Post
    Alleria will be a villain in a future void expansion and Sylvanas will never be a raid boss.

    High elf fanboys on suicide watch
    Quote Originally Posted by Paula Deen View Post
    You wanna know what this feels like? This feels like an 'Oh shit the fans don't want us to off the Warchief so lets off her sister!' moment.
    Nah I'll make the call incoming playable Ethereals with Alleria\Locus Walker as the leaders. Massive stress on Turalyon, Alleria and Arathor's relationship (gotta have the Blizz soap opera) leading to a reconciliation with her leading the Army of Shadow and him leading the Army of Light jointly against the Void Lord servants of the old Gods with the assistance of the PC.
    When I was younger I used to hope bad things wouldn't happen.
    Now I just hope they're at least funny when they do.

  7. #207
    Quote Originally Posted by FertsBlert View Post
    Nah I'll make the call incoming playable Ethereals with Alleria\Locus Walker as the leaders. Massive stress on Turalyon, Alleria and Arathor's relationship (gotta have the Blizz soap opera) leading to a reconciliation with her leading the Army of Shadow and him leading the Army of Light jointly against the Void Lord servants of the old Gods with the assistance of the PC.
    Seeing as how Locus-walker has her eat the heart of a Demigod and a Naaru, I get the feeling he's trying to do the whole Shadow Ascendant thing with her and maybe anyone else he can find. He's in the business of making gods of his own.

  8. #208
    I for one, welcome our new void overlords!

  9. #209
    Quote Originally Posted by Shampro View Post


    Pretty much something Sylvanas would say.
    This is after the cinematic? To be honest i dont like the idea of npc leaving in a cliffhanger ejem cordana ejem, that doesn't work well

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post

    What will Veressa think of her sister now? Sylvanas may not favor her either.
    Lol, if anything Sylvanas will get along with her even more. Alleria is doing everything she can to fight the legion, even embracing the void and learning how to use it. Sylvanas is the same type of "I will do anything to win" character

  11. #211
    Quote Originally Posted by Zendhal View Post
    God I paused the video at exactly the right time
    the face they make right before the money shot

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    Whats the big deal. Me priest does a badarse blast entering voiform. Oh and he grows some tentacles while remaining in voidform longer. Alleria is a mere padawan.

  13. #213
    Quote Originally Posted by Stroggylos View Post
    Whats the big deal. Me priest does a badarse blast entering voiform. Oh and he grows some tentacles while remaining in voidform longer. Alleria is a mere padawan.
    they need to add just one final little class quest thing that cements that my priest is better at it. have her asking about your void form and such.

  14. #214
    i mean she looks like Boruto....

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    looks like alleria has been ruined forever thanks blizzard.
    r.i.p. alleria. 1997-2017. blizzard ruined alleria forever. blizz assassinated alleria's character and appearance.
    i will never forgive you for this blizzard.

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    We're living in 2017. There's no more Black & White in Pop Culture as it was in the past.

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    She's one of those characters that has the potential to become top tier in power level.
    11/4/23 Updated power level -> Sargeras > Xal'atath > Void Empowered Azshara > Alleria > Galakrond > Iridikron > N'zoth > Jailor > Argus > Death Empowered Sylvanas > Lich King Arthas > Kil'jaeden > Archimonde > Illidan > Deathwing

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Darkener View Post
    We're living in 2017. There's no more Black & White in Pop Culture as it was in the past.
    That's a really rich statement. Especially in regards of wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lightspark View Post
    Alleria and Sylvanas, the Shadow Sisters.

    And Vereesa still can't do shit...
    This sums up the essence of the Windrunner trio just fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by LarryWithTheWeatherReport View Post
    She must wear a pretty thick plot armor to be able to just suck a Dark Naaru's power completely. Not even Cho'ghall could do that. And even AU Velen has to kill himself in order to stop a Dark Naaru.
    Let's be honest, we know it's that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tauror View Post
    It's not the first time High Elves sucked a Naaru, she only sucked it harder.
    Seems that comment about Pornhub wasn't that misplaced, at the end of the day.
    Quote Originally Posted by Keyblader View Post
    It's a general rule though that if you play horde you are a bad person irl. It's just a scientific fact.
    Quote Originally Posted by Heladys View Post
    The game didn't give me any good reason to hate the horde. Forums did that.

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    She looks like the normals on her model got flipped.

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