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    Gul´dan phase 3 against Khadgar

    Would Khadgar alone have any chance to beat Gul´dan nighthold phase 3 ? Or is Gul´dan simply tier above him.

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    Khadgar loses to Gul'dan 1v1 especially since the latter have a powerup.
    11/4/23 Updated power level -> Sargeras > Xal'atath > Void Empowered Azshara > Alleria > Galakrond > Iridikron > N'zoth > Jailor > Argus > Death Empowered Sylvanas > Lich King Arthas > Kil'jaeden > Archimonde > Illidan > Deathwing

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    Gul'Dan beats Khadgar when infused with more power.

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    Khadgar... Like when did he show true potential? Sons of Lothar jester

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    Quote Originally Posted by LarryWithTheWeatherReport View Post
    Khadgar loses to Gul'dan 1v1 especially since the latter have a powerup.
    Especially considering he couldn't beat him before hulkdan WITH the help of Maiev.

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    if you listened to the audiobook before legion released, you would know that khadgar would beat gul'dan because all gul'dan relies on is raw power, whereas khadgar not olny has power in spades, he also has a tactical mind to make it work in his favour, if it weren't for the tomb collapsing arounf them and gul'dan taking advantage of that he would have been killed by khadgar inside one of the tombs many halls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogoth View Post
    if you listened to the audiobook before legion released, you would know that khadgar would beat gul'dan because all gul'dan relies on is raw power, whereas khadgar not olny has power in spades, he also has a tactical mind to make it work in his favour, if it weren't for the tomb collapsing arounf them and gul'dan taking advantage of that he would have been killed by khadgar inside one of the tombs many halls.
    he's beating normal gul'dan in out and out power, then kil'jaeden allows the power within the tomb to surge into gul'dan and gul'dan immediately becomes overwhelmingly more powerful than him.

    so khadgar loses, without a doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LarryWithTheWeatherReport View Post
    Khadgar loses to Gul'dan 1v1 especially since the latter have a powerup.
    How much stronger Gul´dan was with all buffs compared with time when he fought Khadgar ? And would Khadgar stand a chance with buffed Gul´dan ?

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    I believe we already have official lore answer in the pre-legion story, Khadgar can't beat Gul'dan 1v1, however Gul'dan has no reliable allies that's why he was running from Khadgar (back then)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djordje View Post
    How much stronger Gul´dan was with all buffs compared with time when he fought Khadgar ? And would Khadgar stand a chance with buffed Gul´dan ?
    Khadgar vs normal Gul'dan could probably go both ways but Gul'dan in Hulk Hogan mode would be too powerful for him to 1v1. I'll say Gul'dan is probably around 2 or 3 times stronger than his normal self in his final form.
    11/4/23 Updated power level -> Sargeras > Xal'atath > Void Empowered Azshara > Alleria > Galakrond > Iridikron > N'zoth > Jailor > Argus > Death Empowered Sylvanas > Lich King Arthas > Kil'jaeden > Archimonde > Illidan > Deathwing

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    No. Khadgar had to fight Gul'dan with 30 god mode mary sues in order to win. He wouldn't win on his own.

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    The real question is: Can we beat Khadgar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Protean View Post
    The real question is: Can we beat Khadgar?
    Impressive! Those impudent impostors imperiled important improvements!

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    Well to be fair during the Tomb of Sargeras Audio Drama Gul'dan said before getting any power up that khadgar could hold him off for too long and that he had decades studied Gul'dan so in pure power Gul'dan normally was stronger than Khadgar but not that much because Khadgar's understanding of puts them on equal grounds. If Khadgar was at some power in audio drama his understanding of Gul'dan should have made him victor easily.
    In sort Hulked Gul'dan beats Khadgar quit easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Protean View Post
    The real question is: Can we beat Khadgar?
    it's a bit of a toss up.

    the player mage has the stronger artifact. they MIGHT have more raw power. but idk if they got the tricks and arcane knowledge khadgar has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Protean View Post
    The real question is: Can we beat Khadgar?
    Khadgar knows all the funniest puns which forces you into uncontrollable laughter and paralyze you. I doubt we can compete with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagoth Ur View Post
    Khadgar knows all the funniest puns which forces you into uncontrollable laughter and paralyze you. I doubt we can compete with that.

    Wonder how powerful would Dagoth Ur be compare to the other powerful mages in WoW. With and without the Heart of Lorkhan. What about Akulakhan the Second God vs Archimonde.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Protean View Post
    The real question is: Can we beat Khadgar?
    We might be around the same power level as Khadgar, Illidan, and Velen. Maybe a tiny step below them.
    11/4/23 Updated power level -> Sargeras > Xal'atath > Void Empowered Azshara > Alleria > Galakrond > Iridikron > N'zoth > Jailor > Argus > Death Empowered Sylvanas > Lich King Arthas > Kil'jaeden > Archimonde > Illidan > Deathwing

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    Quote Originally Posted by LarryWithTheWeatherReport View Post
    Wonder how powerful would Dagoth Ur be compare to the other powerful mages in WoW. With and without the Heart of Lorkhan. What about Akulakhan the Second God vs Archimonde.
    It's kinda hard to compare but interesting to think about.
    With Heart of Lorkhan he would probably be strongest entity on Azeroth. If Akulakhan is like Numidium he would be OP as shit considering he can literaly negate reality and stuff like that.

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    Khadgar and phase 1 Gul'dan seem to be evenly matched in WoD, so it stands to reason that Khadgar is crushed in this scenario

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