Controversial 'Sugar Baby' Event Taking Place In Dublin

[Tennis]

https://lovindublin.com/news/a-contr...otel-this-week

http://www.thejournal.ie/seeking-arr...75864-Sep2017/

A SUGAR BABY coaching event is taking place for the first time ever in Ireland next Friday.

The phenomenon of sugar daddy and sugar baby relationships – where a younger woman begins a relationship with an older, wealthy man, in which he pays her large sums of money - has come to more attention in Ireland in recent years.

According to Seeking Arrangement, one of the most popular sites offering a place for sugar babies to meet sugar daddies, more than 900 Irish students have signed up for the service.

While concerns have been raised about the safety of sugar babies, Seeking Arrangement has provided a website full of safety and privacy advice for users.

In a blog post on the website, one sugar baby acknowledges that there can be issues when someone chooses this pursuit, such as meeting strangers in unfamiliar surroundings.

“Never meet up with a potential sugar daddy at a private location. Insist on meeting somewhere public, and if possible, familiar to you,” the post stated.

“Demand respect from the moment you first lay eyes on each other. Don’t overindulge yourself on alcohol, and always watch your drinks. In the sugar bowl, everything seems almost too good to be true, so you need to be even more cautious and guarded to determine the validity of a proposed arrangement.”

At the private meeting at a Dublin hotel on 8 September, a team from Seeking Arrangement will be on site to offer members one-on-one sessions about “how they can improve and optimise their dating lives”.

Speaking to TheJournal.ie, Seeking Arrangement spokesperson Brook Urick explained why the event is taking place:

“This is a chance for sugar babies to get some personalised advice. I know that Ireland is a very small place, discretion is important. I think that people are private about their lives regardless of whether or not they’re sugar babies.

It’s really important to have resources for new sugar babies who are unsure about entering the lifestyle.

“This is an opportunity for me and any other experienced sugar babies that we have there to answer questions, to go over their online profiles, to talk about the messages they receive, to let them know how to stay safe, to let them know how to protect their information, their identity.

“It’s a chance for them to meet one another.”

Seeking Arrangement claims to have 9,350,000 active members – 7,100,000 sugar babies and 2,250,000 sugar daddies and mommies. It says members are registered in 139 countries across the world.

‘This isn’t a lifestyle we invented’

But why do people sign up to become sugar daddies and sugar babies?

Speaking to DailyEdge.ie last year, an anonymous Irish sugar baby said: “It’s more like a regular dating website for me. You still chat to people and have to feel whether there is a connection there. It’s very narrow-minded to think of it as a business transaction.

“I do it so I can lead a better lifestyle. I can go on a date, get done up and they can bring me to a nice dinner and I feel pampered. Or if we meet up during the day, they can pay for a coffee or something.

“If someone offered to pay all my college fees I would say no. That’s way too much,” the anonymous sugar baby said.

TheJournal.ie asked Urick why people sign up for the website.

“This isn’t a lifestyle that we invented, we’re just the first ones to optimise it and be honest about it,” she explained.

The arrangement website is set up much like a dating website – where people upload photos and message each other based on certain preferences. It has one obvious difference: monetary transactions are involved.

Urick said that each individual sugar baby can lay down their own guidelines and restrictions to their dating life.

The average wage for an active sugar baby in Dublin is around €2,500 a month, according to Urick.

But what does a sugar baby/daddy relationship actually entail and what does a sugar baby need to do to get paid? Urick claims that the relationships aren’t always sexual ones.

“Lots of sugar relationships don’t have a sexual component, lots of them are simply platonic,” Urick said.

I know a lot of sugar babies who use this as a means to meet businessmen, to form connections, to meet the right kind of people to get you where you want to go in life. It’s not about sex usually.

Sometimes, relationships might just involve date nights to a restaurant, or simply letting your sugar daddy buy items for you, she said.

The monetary payments vary from sugar baby to sugar baby, according to Urick.

“That average wage in Dublin is €2,500 month. That can include tuition payments, bills, a car payment, room and board, whatever it is that sugar baby needs,” she said.

“It’s not usually a designer handbag or shoes, it’s more often times school tuition or something they really need.”

Pop-up events

Urick said that the most common issue Seeking Arrangement receives feedback about is in relation to the individual sugar baby profiles on the site, and questions surrounding not receiving enough ‘traction’ from sugar daddies.

Because of this, the company offers advice and guidance to the sugar babies who attend the member-exclusive events and the team members work with the babies to amend their profiles, in a bid to make them more appealable to the sugar daddies.

“The most common problem is that they aren’t getting enough traction on their profile, that they’re not able to even meet one potential sugar daddy,” Urick said.

“That’s a potential issue because a lot of sugar babies don’t understand how optimisation of our profiles works. You have to remember who your audience is and you have to use the parts of your profile to your advantage in order to have more sugar daddies available to you.”

Whoa. This is quite a disturbing trend that society is taking. Let's hope these individuals who participate in such an endeavor remain limited.

What do you think? Are you interested in taking part in such an arrangement?

[Mistame]

This is quite a disturbing trend that society is taking.

There is nothing "disturbing" about sex, money or a combination of the two. And it's not called the oldest profession in the world for nothing. Calling it a "trend" is pretty stupid. Prostitution should not be illegal. Consenting adults = none of anyone else's business. Period, end of.

[sarahtasher]

Can't wait to see the usual people come here and praise this act and blame ''SJW that hate sexy wumin and are jealous'' (all this while blaming normal women to be gold diggers)

Therefore, a very simple question : what would you say if the sugar daddy is amongst the ''dangerous'' groups ?

[Dundebuns]

It annoys me more when a sugar baby is all like "Nah we don't have sex, he/she just buys me things I want and takes me on holiday!"

They know they're doing the dirty with them, we know they are too. Otherwise why the hell would they put up with their vapid ass?

[Sorshen]

Your posting history quite disturbing too. Who cares, they're just next-level escorts.

[Aeula]

Do we have to call them 'sugar babies'? Sounds so goddamn creepy, makes them sound underaged. What happened to the phrase gold diggers?

Anyway, whatever you call it, it's essentially a form of long term prostitution. If people are that desperate for money/company then so be it. I'm not going to get ruffled over other people's business.

[Bathory]

I don't understand why people get butthurt over this sugar daddy/baby concept.

[Sky High]

the only thing I'd be worried about is all the STI's being passed around, aside from that? who cares.

[Semune]

There isn't a single person on this planet that believes they aren't there for the sex.

Why else would the guy take them in? Sex and status with hot chicks. "Yeah guys just totally buy stuff for us and expect nothing in return!" LMAO.

With that said, more power to them. If I had a lot of money I'd pay to wake up to 10 supermodels every day. If the women involved don't mind trading sex for money then who cares.

[Mihalik]

I don't understand why people get butthurt over this sugar daddy/baby concept.

Butthurt is a strong word. It's gross.

Purely from a male perspective... I wouldn't want to be with share my bed/time with someone who is primarily with me for money. Thank you, but no thank you.

Also... it is essentially just prostitution. So why is hooking on a street corner illegal but these sort of "arrangements" are largely ignored? Moral/wealth gap double standard.

In the end, I don't care.

But I would question the manhood of a man who partakes in this arrangement, and I would look down on a woman.

[Deleted]

It annoys me more when a sugar baby is all like "Nah we don't have sex, he/she just buys me things I want and takes me on holiday!"
They know they're doing the dirty with them, we know they are too. Otherwise why the hell would they put up with their vapid ass?

I don't mean to insult you, but you're probably too young (or at least younger than 30-40) if you think that sex the first thing that a sugar daddy wants.
Sexual desires are easy to satisfy. You watch some weird fetish porn and jack off. Done and done.
Emotional needs are nearly impossible to satisfy alone. That is why you need another person. Living alone without a partner can make you really lonely over the years.
It is entirely plausible that many of these men pay a lot of money just for a younger woman to talk to them, show interest, say a few good words and so on.
A lot of people crave a hug a lot more than sex.

[Tennis]

I can't believe what these people say to justify it.

Samantha, 24, from Tucson, Arizona, is one of 15 finalists in the Sugar Baby of the Year competition hosted by dating site Seeking Arrangement.

The site matches young, attractive women with older, wealthy men who offer to take care of them financially.

And the young mom said discovering the “sugar baby” website has been a “blessing.”

Samantha told the Daily Mail: “My biggest fear was having to return to the abusive situation because of financial reasons.”

“I knew this would not benefit me or my children in the long run, so I had to make major changes.”

The part-time housekeeper said using Seeking Arrangement was the only way for her to provide for her kids while still having enough time to see them.

But she added that being a sugar baby did not amount to prostitution.

“I will not be physical with someone unless we have been dating for a while and developed trust and genuine feelings,” she explained.

[Bathory]

I wouldn't want to be with share my bed/time with someone who is primarily with me for money.

That's you. These guys are perfectly ok with it.

If you don't care, that's fine. I'm moreso referencing the people who get legitimately upset by this.

[Tennis]

There is nothing "disturbing" about sex, money or a combination of the two. And it's not called the oldest profession in the world for nothing. Calling it a "trend" is pretty stupid. Prostitution should not be illegal. Consenting adults = none of anyone else's business. Period, end of.

It is a trend bruv. The internet wasn't around for decades. This website wasn't around for decades either.

[Seranthor]

Whoa. This is quite a disturbing trend that society is taking. Let's hope these individuals who participate in such an endeavor remain limited.

What do you think? Are you interested in taking part in such an arrangement?

What is disturbing about a young lady wanting to be in a relationship with a financially secure man? What is disturbing about a financially secure man wanting to be in a relationship with an attractive young lady?

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Can't wait to see the usual people come here and praise this act and blame ''SJW that hate sexy wumin and are jealous'' (all this while blaming normal women to be gold diggers)

Therefore, a very simple question : what would you say if the sugar daddy is amongst the ''dangerous'' groups ?

What is there to praise or be offended by... 2 consenting adults consenting to do things with each other... What exactly is the problem?

[unfilteredJW]

It is a trend bruv. The internet wasn't around for decades. This website wasn't around for decades either.

Yet this "trend" has been around for longer than you've been around I suspect.

Controversial? What a sad, vanilla life you lead.

You have so, so much to learn. Which you probably could but you spend your time pretending to be better than others.

[Seranthor]

I can't believe what these people say to justify it.

I would think that being the champion of women that you proclaim to be that you'd be pleased for these young women finding a safe haven outside of abusive relationships... Are you saying you are no longer the champion you professed to be?

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It is a trend bruv. The internet wasn't around for decades. This website wasn't around for decades either.

It's not a 'trend', this is not new... This has been around for centuries...

Yet this "trend" has been around for longer than you've been around I suspect.

Controversial? What a sad, vanilla life you lead.

You have so, so much to learn. Which you probably could but you spend your time pretending to be better than others.

Wait until they discover that Leopold von Sacher-Masoch and Marquis de Sade both lived more than 150 years ago.

[Santti]

I find this to be rather despicable.

On one hand, it's old men giving their money away to young women, to keep the old farts company. That's fine. I guess?

But on the other hand, it's young women making freaking careers out of this, optimizing on how to best attract lonely old farts and how to get a little bit more from them? That's what I find to be rather despicable.

"...You have to use the parts of your profile to your advantage in order to have more sugar daddies available to you.”

Yeah. "Parts".

[Deleted]

Ireland is a clungefest, rock up with an accent and you clean up.
This shit is no more mental than the range of begging from, pan handling, twitch streaming, gofundme, youtubers and bullshit opinion personalities.

[Gersemi]

If someone wants to pay someone else for sex or to have a "companion", who cares?