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  1. #21
    The last thing anyone on the right should be doing is whining about investigations and taxpayer money given how much time and money was wasted on Hillary Clinton over the past several years.

    Anyways, we now know on multiple occasions that federal judges agreed there was not only probable cause for Manafort engaging in criminal activity, but that he was likely to destroy evidence if given the chance. We also know that this started with the CIA and other foreign spy agencies. This means Manafort and others were breaking the law with other people/entities outside of the US, Russia/Ukraine in particular.

    Pair this with Manafort's own children admitting his profits were blood money and I think we have a good idea of where this is going to end up. Trump and his family got in bed with a despicable human being.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blur4stuff View Post
    The last thing anyone on the right should be doing is whining about investigations and taxpayer money given how much time and money was wasted on Hillary Clinton over the past several years.

    Anyways, we now know on multiple occasions that federal judges agreed there was not only probable cause for Manafort engaging in criminal activity, but that he was likely to destroy evidence if given the chance. We also know that this started with the CIA and other foreign spy agencies. This means Manafort and others were breaking the law with other people/entities outside of the US, Russia/Ukraine in particular.

    Pair this with Manafort's own children admitting his profits were blood money and I think we have a good idea of where this is going to end up. Trump and his family got in bed with a despicable human being.
    If only they had bothered putting this much effort into the financial criminals in 2008 Trump wouldn't be a thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransath View Post
    5 on-going investigations, countless hours and taxpayer dollars wasted on.....nothing.
    The party that launched 500 investigations into Benghazi, emails, and random conspiracy theories about hired assassins doesn't get to complain about wasted taxpayer dollars, lolz. ESPECIALLY since the investigation into Trump (and his lackeys) has turned up far more than all of the Clinton investigations combined.
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  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    .... don't worry they will claim that was never something people said.

    Also, we've always been at war with East-Asia.
    You do know that stuff said by public people don't just magically disappear from the internet right?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransath View Post
    Of course you were going to get a dismissal from the usual suspects. No worries. Just further proof that they have nothing - and never will.

    5 on-going investigations, countless hours and taxpayer dollars wasted on.....nothing.

    Obama misused the office countless times - from the IRS and the Tea Party to the unmasking. As I always say, the folks that Mueller ends up indicting will be Obama admin officials - Brennan, Rice, and Rhodes (hopefully a few more like Powers.) Maybe Manafort for some income tax evasion (because they are desperate for anything), but not any "collusion".

    As much as Adam Schiff adores the cameras, if he had anything he would have tripped all over himself to expose Trump by now. Same thing for Warner. Hell, you don't even hear a peep out of that loser anymore. Occasionally Fienstein, Grassley or Gowdy make a statement, but that is about it.

    They got nothing. Nada. Zilch. Zero. They know it but they cannot handle the crushing blow to their ego so they still pretend. It's okay, it will all come crashing down on them at some point. Will be fun to watch For a few people on this board....well, I don't think they will ever get over it. LOL.
    Sounds like you're projecting

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    Quote Originally Posted by ati87 View Post
    You do know that stuff said by public people don't just magically disappear from the internet right?



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    Sounds like you're projecting
    You forgot that Trump's tweets have a half-life time of about...half a day. After that, they may be disregarded if the narrative requires it and have never happened. Alternatively, CNN and co are sooooo fake that whenever they utilize such a tweet, their fakeness immediately rubs onto it and makes it fake as well.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiri View Post
    You forgot that Trump's tweets have a half-life time of about...half a day. After that, they may be disregarded if the narrative requires it and have never happened. Alternatively, CNN and co are sooooo fake that whenever they utilize such a tweet, their fakeness immediately rubs onto it and makes it fake as well.
    Aren't the god-kings tweets absolute?

  7. #27
    That was never the claim, it was about the Trump tower and Trump himself.

    At least you tried, lmao.

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    Yep, I remember when there was no evidence, remember it like it was yesterday, or today even.

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    Here's the thing, the Trump administration came out three weeks ago, and admitted Trump was lying about saying he was wiretapped by Obama. The OP is clearly lacking in reading comprehension... and can't seem to remember shit that doesn't fit his narrative. There's a lot of that going around these days.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/02/politi...tap/index.html

  10. #30
    So Paul Manafort, a guy who got a no knock raid to keep him from destroying evidence, was wiretapped as part of an investigation of unrelated crimes that occurred before the campaign?

    Trump tower was what was claimed to be wiretapped, does your evidence say other wise? No? Then why are you making a false statement?

    Trump tower wasn't wiretapped, Trump wasn't wiretapped, by all information we have his campaign wasn't wiretapped. The issue here is Trump choosing to have criminals as part of his campaign instead of properly vetting people.

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    Why would you investivate the previous administration? They were legal wiretaps ffs, they obtained warrents. It was done by the book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeones View Post
    So Paul Manafort, a guy who got a no knock raid to keep him from destroying evidence, was wiretapped as part of an investigation of unrelated crimes that occurred before the campaign?
    Two-year surveillance for some investigation that found nothing and so warrant was suspended - most likely just wide net trying to get Yanukovich assets (since end of 2013-start of 2014 is exactly when they seriously started looking after Ukrainian coup).

    And then 2016-2017 surveillance that also found nothing as far as we know.

    There is also no indication that no knock raid produced anything either.



    Just the usual abuse of power, nothing interesting really.

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    Remember how Trump said Obama wire tap Trump Tower?

    Remember how the OP is moving the goalposts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    nothing interesting really.
    lol...nothing interesting? In order to conduct a no-knock raid on Manafort, in which they picked the lock in the middle of the night, the FBI needed to convince a judge that Manafort had evidence of a crime, and that he was willing and able to destroy that evidence if they didn't force entry. Sources are now reporting that Manafort was warned by Muellers team to expect indictment.

    But really guys. Nothing interesting going on here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Remember how Trump said Obama wire tap Trump Tower?

    Remember how the OP is moving the goalposts?
    You forgot the quotations.

    "Wire Tapped". That could mean anything. Anything!
    Eat yo vegetables

  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Ransath View Post
    Of course you were going to get a dismissal
    Should have stopped right there, Manafort getting wiretapped twice through legal means, has nothing to do with Obama ordering a wire tap of Trump Tower. Ofcourse you're too ignorant to realise even the most obvious shit.

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    For those of you who missed it, the OP is channelling Breitbart, who is taking a "victory lap" with five or so articles on this.

    All of which ignore the fact that Trump Tower was not wire tapped. They try to shift the goalposts by saying |"But maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe Manafort called Trump who was in Trump Tower at the time! We were right! We were right!"

    Then Bannon sucked his own cock.

  17. #37
    Holy Bleep OP! Do you understand this was no a wiretap on Trump. Obama did not order the Manafort wiretap. This wiretap by FISA was for working with a foreign agent, which Manafort has likely done.

    This thread should be deleted.
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  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Shon237 View Post
    This thread should be deleted.
    No it shouldn't. Venant made his bed. He deserves to lie in it.

    But holy shit, this thread has turned into one giant pinata.

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    The best part, saying that Trump's campaign manager has had a FISA warrant executed before and after the campaign, is a gloating point. Think about that for just a minute... the people who claimed there was no contact with Russia are now celebrating that a campaign manager had a judge agree to a warrant.

    Are you really willing to agree that Trump's campaign was involved with Russia, just to move goalposts and claim Trump was right? Is this what we are to expect for Trump's term? The Steele dozen was wrong, Trump peed on the hookers, they didn't pee on him. Trump was right!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shon237 View Post
    This thread should be deleted.
    It should stand as a monument to the stupidity that surrounds and engulfs us every day.

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