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  1. #21
    "war... at the cost of a few hundred million people..."

    That's funny. Hope he doesn't get his hopes too high, because with how few white supremacists there are, they'd be wiped out very quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heladys View Post
    They were a similarly small percentage of Germany too, before they were allowed to spread unopposed.
    not really how that worked, german was going through a huge depression after WWI and millions of germans had nothing, no jobs existed and they were constantly the butt of jokes, they felt like it was them vs the world

    for germans, life got better because of hitler, it's just a fact, he promised a stronger germany and came through, he was always ruthless and blamed the jews but his #1 strength was that he made the world a better place for germans who didn't know where their next meal was coming from

    USA is simply not in that situation, the media wants to sell a narrative that makes it whites vs non-whites but the USA is 60-70% white, it's a MASSIVE majority and a clear majority even when you lump all non-white races together (and let's face it, mexicans, asians, etc aren't gonna be in black america's corner in a race war)

    the situation in the USA is nothing remotely like the situation in german that allowed nazism to take over, it took over because hitler talked the talk and walked the walk, people decided that living like a 3rd world country sucked and he delivered

    throughout history, nothing good at all comes from tearing a people down to nothing then leaving them to their own devices, it's what led to the creation of the KKK, nazis, ISIS, etc

    at some point, the people on the other side have to take responsibility for contributing to a situation that makes that stuff the only way out for people

    if whites weren't the huge majority of the USA, the current media atmosphere would probably lead to the creation of something along these lines but the average white person feels no pressure, they don't care if some skinny little fuck online calls them a racist because they don't like interracial dating, it just doesn't matter, it's all much to do about nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Symphonic View Post
    "war... at the cost of a few hundred million people..."

    That's funny. Hope he doesn't get his hopes too high, because with how few white supremacists there are, they'd be wiped out very quickly.
    but haven't you heard, white supremacists are LITERALLY EVERYWHERE

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    There is a united group (these are the Richard Spencers and so on) but there are also non-affliated individuals. The inability of some people on these forums to see the world in nothing but black and white astounds me.
    the most powerful group is the aryan nation and it's mostly a prison gang with ties to biker gangs that deal mostly in meth, you never hear shit about them

    there is no unified group on the right, never will be, all white people get lumped together but we're damn sure not all the same at all

  3. #23
    Why does the "leader" of this alt right group have a Persian name? Reza Jorjani????

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    Stop playing into mass media's hands and their profits from manufactured threats - average redneck white american just can't be a threat, no matter his or her beliefs. Just give them an oppurtinity for a real job with proper nation-level program and after spending just a year in mixed work environment he will drop all racist/sexist/bigoted/nazi/whatever attributes and you will see it was all bloated by media for attention at the cost of peaceful nation.

    But that would mean Democrats would have to start caring about middle America, which they don't, they enjoy leaving them alone so they have boogeyman to scare their 'safer' EC voters...

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    Quote Originally Posted by snitcher geralt View Post
    the situation in the USA is nothing remotely like the situation in german that allowed nazism to take over, it took over because hitler talked the talk and walked the walk, people decided that living like a 3rd world country sucked and he delivered
    You make it sound like he was voted in by a displeased majority. He wasn't. People didn't vote for Hitler to make things better because most of the people didn't vote him at all. The nazis usurped power. Whatever negatives or positives came out of that is another topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Symphonic View Post
    "war... at the cost of a few hundred million people..."

    That's funny. Hope he doesn't get his hopes too high, because with how few white supremacists there are, they'd be wiped out very quickly.
    I almost hope they try, simply so they can get pushed back and get a dose of reality. What shameful rat-bastards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heladys View Post
    They were a similarly small percentage of Germany too, before they were allowed to spread unopposed.
    No they weren't. They were literally the majority of the WW1 military. ~11 million former battle hardened soldiers. Current estimates put the Klan at like 7k members, and they lack centralized leadership because of Daryl Davis. The alt-right has what, maybe 5k members? And the vast majority of these people have no military experience. The white supremacists of America are a pathetic paper tiger, and they're only gaining the little bit of strength that they are because of the Streisand effect, because the media cannot stop circle jerking about Nazis and how virtuous they are for not tolerating intolerance.

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    I didn't know there were courses in fearmongering over in Sweden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    NO they were a major political party.
    Eventually, but not at first. they didn't just drop from the sky one day with millions of followers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Molis View Post
    Is this what is meant by "fearmongering"

    These lunatics are like 0.000001% of the nation
    And Islamist Extremists are an even smaller percent of the population, and yet you have Billy Joe Bob in Bumfuck, Kansas screaming about expulsing all the Muslims.

    Weird how the world works huh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    You make it sound like he was voted in by a displeased majority. He wasn't. People didn't vote for Hitler to make things better because most of the people didn't vote him at all. The nazis usurped power. Whatever negatives or positives came out of that is another topic.
    Ahm sorry no he was voted into power by the majority of people in germany. No clue where you get your shitty history facts from bust please do us all a favor and change it.

    The nazis where the strongest party they then just had Hitler be Reichskanzler because the other partys where ok with that (they thought that they could got him under comtrol with that).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Why does the "leader" of this alt right group have a Persian name? Reza Jorjani????
    The term Aryan originates from the Proto-Indo-Iranian language root *arya which was the ethnonym the Indo-Iranians used for themselves.
    Persia=Iran.

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Nasuuna View Post
    its a national socialist group that believes in white superiority

    people like mall think its everyone who believe western european/american culture is the best culture
    What the usual suspects are completely unable to understand is that the Nazis considered most Western cultures, including the German ones, inadequate and corrupted.

    Sure, they started to play the ''Godless communists horde'' after poking the Red Army, but Nazis had a very dim view of christianism,.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeula View Post
    I didn't know there were courses in fearmongering over in Sweden.
    Again, Islamists terrorists had a lot of work to do to beat the Nazis in casual murder of white Europeans christians (the only categories that matter for the usual suspects).

    For instance, the super aryan studs of Das Reich killed more French civilians on the road to Normandy than islamists in over 50 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    And Islamist Extremists are an even smaller percent of the population, and yet you have Billy Joe Bob in Bumfuck, Kansas screaming about expulsing all the Muslims.

    Weird how the world works huh.


    For the record, I don't approve of kicking out all Muslims.

    Furthermore, there are 196 million white people in the US. That's makes the ~20k white supremacists about 0.0001% of the white population. There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. If 0.0001% of them hold extremist views that's still 160k people we need to watch out for. Furthermore, Muslims terrorists are far more dangerous than Neo-Nazis. In 2017, Neo-Nazis have killed 1 person. Over 550 people have already been killed in 2017 by Islamic terrorists.

    As Sam Harris pointed out though, Muslims that hold extremist views are not a tiny minority. We're not even talking 3-5%. In a lot of countries you're looking at more like 20%, or even higher in the most extreme cases.

    These problems are not in any way equivalent.

    And just so we're clear, moderate Islam is still a far right ideology. That does not mean I am for violent action against them. But I am also not for violent action against the Neo-Nazis.

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    The people showcased in the short video are probably already under some sort of surveillance, as with anyone else that has an affiliation to ideology/groups with a violent past.

    I'm not too worried, these people will always be a fringe group and will always want to work best as opposition and not leaders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    What the usual suspects are completely unable to understand is that the Nazis considered most Western cultures, including the German ones, inadequate and corrupted.

    Sure, they started to play the ''Godless communists horde'' after poking the Red Army, but Nazis had a very dim view of christianism,.

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    Again, Islamists terrorists had a lot of work to do to beat the Nazis in casual murder of white Europeans christians (the only categories that matter for the usual suspects).

    For instance, the super aryan studs of Das Reich killed more French civilians on the road to Normandy than islamists in over 50 years.
    Out of curiosity, am I one of these "usual suspects"? I like to know if I'm being put on a list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurcus View Post
    Out of curiosity, am I one of these "usual suspects"? I like to know if I'm being put on a list.
    Few things are more amusing that people persuaded that the Aryan studs they idolize would have put them in the white club.

    Sorry folks. The Nazis considered people with Italian blood inferior vermin. With Pole blood. With French blood. With Russian blood. And in the little charts they made about racial hierarchy, Arabs were way higher than most of Europe.

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    Fantasizing that Trump is a villain isn't doing the world any good.

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    REALLY!? Nazis think that the answer is concentration camps and millions dead? I've never heard of anything like this in those history books or from WWII veterans!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    And Islamist Extremists are an even smaller percent of the population, and yet you have Billy Joe Bob in Bumfuck, Kansas screaming about expulsing all the Muslims.

    Weird how the world works huh.
    Islamic extremists actually kill more than one person a year

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