Trump to Decertify Iran Deal

[CostinR]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...ources-n803121

President Donald Trump is leaning toward decertifying the Iran nuclear deal and putting the decision of whether the United States withdraw from the accord in the hands of Congress, according to four sources — including a senior administration official — familiar with the White House deliberations.

Such a move would come before an Oct. 15 deadline and would trigger a 60-day window for lawmakers to determine whether to reimpose sanctions related to Iran's nuclear program that were lifted as part of the 2015 agreement. The president's goal during that time is to prod America's European allies, who are part of the nuclear deal, to agree to renegotiate some provisions and pressure Iran back into talks.

Still, several of the sources cautioned that the president could change his mind over the next three weeks as he faces pushback from allies internationally.

Trump told reporters Wednesday that he has "decided" on a plan of action, but he declined to provide specifics. Asked for comment, a White House spokesperson said the president will announce further details when he's ready.

The senior administration official said that the president has resolved not to continue the "status quo" but that he's considering at least one other option related to the deal.

That option, according to two officials, would give European allies 90 days to get on board with renegotiation — rather than punt the decision to Congress. Administration officials are still in talks with those allies and with Republicans on Capitol Hill.

The White House has not responded to a request for comment.

Trump so far has twice recertified the Iran deal, despite having vowed to end it on the campaign trail. But this week, he ratcheted up his rhetoric, calling the agreement an "embarrassment" to the United States in his speech to the U.N. General Assembly in New York.

Well this should go down very well for the Middle East.

This move has everything to do with the fact that Iran has gotten more and more aggressive and powerful since the deal was reached: Be it in Yemen or Syria or Iraq.

[Xeones]

Yea Trump. Lets just go ahead and make enemies where we don't have to.

[Skroe]

Stupid and pointless.

The Iran deal was another "Obama special", that's for fucking sure. It never should have been negotiated the way it was. It never should have been acceded to the way it was. It never should have positioned the US vis-a-vis Iran the way it did. It created a ridiculous relationship condition with the US and Russia (go back and see in 2014 and 2015 how many times the Obama administration was quoted as "needing Russia's help with Iran"). The deal is only a "good deal" if it exists in some kind of ridiculous binary world where the options were "peace" or "war", which is the argument Obama and his lackeys made. It's the incarnation of everything wrong with Obama's second term foreign policy.


But it also staggered a growing security problem for the US by years. The US also agreed to it in good faith.

Obama's second term foreign policy is roundly seen as a disaster in foreign policy circles (three words: the Red Line), but even those largely dis-favorable to the deal think pulling out is deeply reckless and unwise. It'll frustrate our European Allies, who we do need. It'll precipitate an immediate crisis when the US is occupied with Russia, China and North Korea.

The US State Department is deeply understaffed and overstretched, thanks to Trump and Tillerson's malfeasance.

To put it simply, if the US leaves this deal, it'll be Trump doing Russia a solid yet again. They would like nothing more than for the US to be ever more perceived as an unreliable dealmaker, who can't be trusted to keep policy between administrations (for this though, Obama deserves a huge share of the blame, I can elaborate if requested). They would like nothing more than for the US to be warded off by another nuclear-armed, missile toting state, covering their southern flank.

[Draco-Onis]

That would be a idiotic move the international community will turn on us for not being trustworthy and any sanctions we put on Iran will useless without the international community. I am sure his staff and aides have warned him but this will be another gigantic blunder that is going to come back and bite us in the ass.

[Wyrt]

Which country will we needlessly pick fights with next week? I'm feeling Luxembourg or maybe Chile.

[Puremallace]

Pretty much guarantees a nuclear arms race in the middle east. Netanyahu want this to distract from his corrupt regime that is under investigation by Israeli prosecutors. Also for conservatives wondering about this deal.

I remember a guy named Reagan who negotiated a deal with Soviets regarding only their nuclear missiles and not human rights or their form of government. If Trump shreds this deal then war in North Korea is guaranteed as our credibility on the national stage is shredded.

[Kalador]

Yeah cause U.S as zero other better thing to worry about like i don't know, NK, Russia, china, etc...

This is such a fucking bad move. Even if the deal was shit, it was signed and Iran respected their end of it... Pulling out just show how meaningless signing something with the U.S. is... Once again your President is going to do the stupid MAGA/America 1st move while alienating your allies a bit more. And once again the confidence in the U.S to do the good move drops a bit more in the world.

[TZucchini]

"I voted for Trump so he would fuck things up...I mean shake things up in Washington!"

The uneducated red-hats got what they wanted I guess.

[Low Hanging Fruit]

When the President doesn't really know what he is talking about and then surrounds himself with yes men... then just goes with his gut. Then half the nation thinks he is right with the only proof they got is that his name isn't Obama (and he is white).

But I guess any act of stupidity that grabs headlines that aren't pretty much more damning proof that he is a traitor along with most of his staff. He will do it.

[Somewhatconcerned]

How is this good for America?

If Iran was keeping their side of the bargain and not pursuing nukes, wasn't that the point?

So now we levy new sanctions against them and they continue to build anyways.

[Deleted]

Trump is truly a deal "breaker".

[Breccia]

So @CostinR, are you saying that, just like he gave the Pentagon the authority to run raids and drone strikes without his approval, just like he asked Congress to write his health care plan for him, just like he asked Congress to write his tax plan for him, just like he has the four finalists building Wall prototypes instead of him, just like he told Congress to repeal and replace DACA, are you saying that Trump once again outsourced his responsibilities to someone else, either our of inability, laziness, or unwillingness to make a decision that could be criticized?

How many times did Trump say the Iran Deal was bigly sad? Didn't he threaten to renegotiate it -- dealmaker and all -- or dismantle it? And now he can't be asked to do his job on something that he claimed was so important? Why is he giving this to "the Swamp"? Is he either unwilling, or unable, to do his job? Is he gutless or incompetent?

[Mormolyce]

President Donald Trump is leaning toward decertifying the Iran nuclear deal and putting the decision of whether the United States withdraw from the accord in the hands of Congress, according to four sources — including a senior administration official — familiar with the White House deliberations.

Such a move would come before an Oct. 15 deadline and would trigger a 60-day window for lawmakers to determine whether to reimpose sanctions related to Iran's nuclear program that were lifted as part of the 2015 agreement

Because they don't have anything else to work on right now. Wonder if he told them first this time lol.

[Deleted]

The US has been breaking the deal for a while. By reinstating sanctions against Iran for testing Missiles, something the Iran Nuclear Deal has does not cover. It wont matter if they pull out. So long as the important members stick to it.

It is more surprising that the US is just now doing this. Since Republicans during the Obama Administration stated that they would not obey it and even wrote a letter to the Iranians stating that. https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/10/w...s-leaders.html

[Kalador]

The US has been breaking the deal for a while. By reinstating sanctions against Iran for testing Missiles, something the Iran Nuclear Deal has does not cover. It wont matter if they pull out. So long as the important members stick to it.

It is more surprising that the US is just now doing this. Since Republicans during the Obama Administration stated that they would not obey it and even wrote a letter to the Iranians stating that. https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/10/w...s-leaders.html

it's hard to see what they would gain by pulling out, U.S ally don't want the deal to be broken, and even if the U.S. say we just want to renegotiate does congress need to be involved ? cause i thought they already had a prty full table right now with health care, debt ceiling, taxe cut, etc... thing that need to be address before next mid terms no ?

Even if they want to pull out of the deal the timing seems flat out bad.

[LaserSharkDFB]

Once again Trump is showing the world that America can't be trusted to keep their promises. This is purely an 'OBAMA BAD' move, make no mistake; Trump is fucking obsessed with taking down everything Obama accomplished, even if it means making us the laughingstock of the world or making millions of innocent people suffer.

[Felya]

Which country will we needlessly pick fights with next week? I'm feeling Luxembourg or maybe Chile.

I don't know... Falklands penguins have been acting like ass holes again. Walking around in their suits, chests all out and proud. Time to finish what brits started.

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It is more surprising that the US is just now doing this. Since Republicans during the Obama Administration stated that they would not obey it and even wrote a letter to the Iranians stating that. https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/10/w...s-leaders.html

They said that they can reverse any deal when the next president comes, before this deal was finished. You are providing an example of GOP undercutting US negotiating, in effect making it easier for Iran to get an paper hand in negotiations.

[LaserSharkDFB]

They said that they can reverse any deal when the next president comes, before this deal was finished. You are providing an example of GOP undercutting US negotiating, in effect making it easier for Iran to get an paper hand in negotiations.

Exactly. Why should anyone trust the US if we renege on our agreements every 4 or 8 years?

[Kujako]

Sad part is that when Iran goes back to their nuclear enrichment programs after this, the trumpeters will all point and shout "see! we told you Iran wasn't to be trusted! they just broke the deal we nullified!".

[BuckSparkles]

Yea Trump. Lets just go ahead and make enemies where we don't have to.

As if you don't think the government of Iran doesn't already hate us.

Boy are you naive.

I am sure Iran doesn't chant Death to America for shits and giggles.