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    Would it be a net good to colonize Africa?

    Had the idea while taking a stroll and I honestly wonder long term if a major country started to colonize and enfore their culture and laws on Africa if the country couldn't be turned around?

    The way we keep on sending aid with no results seems kind of like a money pit so why not just bring the modern world to them?

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    Considering most of Africa's current problems can be traced to the last scramble for Africa, I'd say no, we really should just leave well enough alone. We've done enough damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    Considering most of Africa's current problems can be traced to the last scramble for Africa, I'd say no, we really should just leave well enough alone. We've done enough damage.
    Hmm but what about doing it for their benefit rather then simply going after resources. It would be a project that would take well over a hundred years but if we place the child as wards of the state we could offer them a real education and a better life then they could of ever hoped for without it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by primalmatter View Post
    Had the idea while taking a stroll and I honestly wonder long term if a major country started to colonize and enfore their culture and laws on Africa if the country couldn't be turned around?
    Your idea has already been done, with disastrous results, which is part of why Africa is in the shape it's in. Also, Africa is not a country.
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    do they have oil?
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    Quote Originally Posted by primalmatter View Post
    Hmm but what about doing it for their benefit rather then simply going after resources. It would be a project that would take well over a hundred years but if we place the child as wards of the state we could offer them a real education and a better life then they could of ever hoped for without it.
    Well, first, has there ever been a truly selfless act done by one people on the behalf of another? History offers us no precedent for such a thing. You could never convince a country to poor all that in without at least the belief that they will be repaid.

    More over it comes off as a "White Savior" kinda thing.
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    Gotta bring some white culture to enlighten those primitives like the good old days?

    Or like a Belgian Congo sort of deal? Where rich dudes can just go rape and torture people for their amusement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    Well, first, has there ever been a truly selfless act done by one people on the behalf of another? History offers us no precedent for such a thing. You could never convince a country to poor all that in without at least the belief that they will be repaid.

    More over it comes off as a "White Savior" kinda thing.
    They would become part of the country that colonised them. This would be expanding a nations boarders as much as it would be bringing them into the modern world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by primalmatter View Post
    They would become part of the country that colonised them. This would be expanding a nations boarders as much as it would be bringing them into the modern world.
    Because nation building has been so successful over the last 20 years. Not to even mention the obviously flawed mentality of "colonizing".

    The new world was successfully colonized because we killed most of the natives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeones View Post
    Because nation building has been so successful over the last 20 years. Not to even mention the obviously flawed mentality of "colonizing".

    The new world was successfully colonized because we killed most of the natives.
    Well to be fair disease did most of the work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by primalmatter View Post
    Well to be fair disease did most of the work.
    Did you think my comment excluded that?

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    Um, Africa was already colonized. It did not work out well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrt View Post
    Um, Africa was already colonized. It did not work out well.
    It was more strip mined for resources... I am speaking more of destroying their culture and replacing it with something better. A cruel act in the short term but it would do wonders for them over the long term.

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    Its whole problem was colonization. But unlike us in America that had it in us to totally destroy the native population to dust the Europeans pitty for the weak left them without colonies and now over a billion savages that will eventually breed them out a stones throw away. If the muslims from the middle east don't get it done first that is.

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    http://fooddeserts.org/images/paper0114.pdf

    You are prolly looking for this OP. Colonialism wasn't all that bad. It got Singapore right.

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    Also Hong kong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by primalmatter View Post
    Had the idea while taking a stroll and I honestly wonder long term if a major country started to colonize and enfore their culture and laws on Africa if the country couldn't be turned around?

    The way we keep on sending aid with no results seems kind of like a money pit so why not just bring the modern world to them?
    I'm of the complete opposite opinion actually. A part of me considered the merits of isolating the African continent entirely but I acknowledge due to the presence of Western/Asian/international corporations throughout the continent it would likely be utter folly.

    There's quite a lot of good going on due to external intervention without colonization though. Japan is pretty on point with their roles in teaching villages how to dig and maintain their wells and teaching farmers how to better irrigate crops, increasing yields by upto 40-60% and guarenteeing a second crop per year typically of rice. Doing wonders for developing electrical power grids too.

    Although if you're interested in the idea of colonization, look into China-Africa Neo-Colonization and their mass land grabs, combined with exporting tens of thousands of workers their. They're heavily investing in transportation and energy infrastructure. This is likely for both the financial benefit of these internationally/UN/WTO sponsored contracts and the ability to use this infrastructure in future business in the region where they already have a foot in the door, so to speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yggdrasil View Post
    Its whole problem was colonization. But unlike us in America that had it in us to totally destroy the native population to dust the Europeans pitty for the weak left them without colonies and now over a billion savages that will eventually breed them out a stones throw away. If the muslims from the middle east don't get it done first that is.
    Actually, it wasn't pity. It was calous pragmatism. People, like minerals are a resource. Why destroy a resource that you can manipulate, displace and control? You need people to extract and prepare resources after you control land and throughout the colonial period Britain and Europe didn't have the man-power to secure regions/territory, hold them and fully exploit the resources while developing road/rail infrastructure and instituting a government. Also it was cheaper/free. Do this or else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by primalmatter View Post
    It was more strip mined for resources... I am speaking more of destroying their culture and replacing it with something better. A cruel act in the short term but it would do wonders for them over the long term.
    Why would we destroy their cultures? Our previous destruction of the cultures gave them their problems.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    i think I have my posse filled out now. Mars is Theo, Jupiter is Vanyali, Linadra is Venus, and Heather is Mercury. Dragon can be Pluto.
    On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.

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    Well, considering the OP wants to spread national socialism... it's weird to think that he wants to colonize someone else. All in all, it sounds pretty damn authoritarian, and just an excuse to fuck up the lives of complete strangers.

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