Why is Rakeesh's death apparently permanent?

[Dreknar20]

Eredar aren't really demons. They are just corrupted.

yeah like that theory too

Lore behind demons was fine, as being monsters that tear wholes in time/reality to wreck havoc upon worlds. With Sargeras weaponizing them in the way Amon did with the zerg
But that notion kinda gets dispelled if demons are able to be "created"

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None confirmed. And yet, people keep saying "Argus speeds up the ressurection!" like it is some weird fact.

plenty of WQ in Argus that state demons that die there simply go back to the burning throne

Hell even Alleria states the infinite legion is only infinite due to the enslaved titan

then again something as recent as the audio novels still states demons that die on Argus die a "final death"

[Manabomb]

It's mostly because the whole demon immortality thing is a weird and awkward plot device to work with, hamstringing a lot of storytelling opportunities if you don't hand-wave it when it suits you.

Oh it could be easily written around, if writers at Blizzard actually gave a fuck about the quality of their work.

Meanwhile, is that another shit sifting world quest on Argus? What a great narrative guys! ./sarcasm.

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There is no trying to make sense of WoW's plot. It is subservient to gameplay.

They wanted to bring back some demons so they did the whole "Demons don't die" thing. Then they forgot about it and let a few demons die. It's the same as the time travel crap, you can't ask too many questions about it cause it falls apart. It's all just convenient nonsense to get the characters where they want them to be to have a fun game.

It can be fun if it doesn't make sense, but that doesn't make it good.

[Soeroah]

The simplest answer would be that Sargeras found out how the demons were coming back and somehow hijacked the system, removed the alternatives and made it so any demon that wants to revive has to go through Antorus, giving Sargeras ultimate say in who deserves to come back or not.

The problem is Blizzard hasn't really implied this is the case, let alone confirmed it.

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It can be fun if it doesn't make sense, but that doesn't make it good.

Well it depends. Plenty of people don't care about the story. The game can be good for them. If you don't care about story, graphics, professions or pvp, and prefer combat where standing in one place and mashing buttons allows you to murder most of the open world enemies, wow is the right game for you. Bonus points if you want to transmog a lot.

[TheVaryag]

He's a Manari Eeredar who dies on Azeroth. Shouldn't he be able to come back like any other demon? Velen certainly treats his death as permanent, and both KJ and Talgath taunt him about it.

That Is true actually, he didn't die In the nether or near a large fel scource so he should be alive and dandy. Regardless of Argus' destruction, the healing process still happens It's just faster with Argus' help.


Or If you wanna find a reasonable explenation and claim Blizzard actually think their shiz through... KJ and the demons did that on purpose, but then only someone like Sargy himself could choose who ressurects faster or not.

[Maylander]

There is no trying to make sense of WoW's plot. It is subservient to gameplay.

They wanted to bring back some demons so they did the whole "Demons don't die" thing. Then they forgot about it and let a few demons die. It's the same as the time travel crap, you can't ask too many questions about it cause it falls apart. It's all just convenient nonsense to get the characters where they want them to be to have a fun game.

Exactly. It felt cool then and there to add X or Y to the game, and that's what happened. The overall lore made sense up to a certain point, but after that you basically just have to play it patch-by-patch, expansion-by-expansion, and ignore the rest. It'll never add up.

I can't stand the claim: "No no, it all adds up perfectly, no retcons, this is clearly what Blizzard has been planning all along."

[meowfurion]

I've never understood why any characters' death is permanent in Azeroth...What, Resurrect doesn't work on them? Velen can't cast a damn REZ on his own son?

[ablock87]

That's outdated lore that's now being contradicted. Because until this point we thought they just respawned in the Twisting Nether, now we know it specifically has to be done on Argus because its the Titan Argus' soul that powers the resurrection process.

It's not, though. It's literally in Chronicles: volume 1 that came out last year.