Is Velen a Dreadlord? YES!!!

[Gamer8585]

Oh fuck it!
[Tinfoil] EVERYONE IS A Dreadlord! The whole universe was started by a bunch of Dreadlords that were attempting to manipulate each other to gain power. Some pretended to be other races to lure their rivals into a false sense of security, but sometimes they went too deep. And their decedents just kind of forgot about it all. Now we just have Dreadlords invading other Dreadlords.

The manipulative Long Con has been so Long some people only think there are actually other sapient beings in the universe. [/Tinfoil]

[AwkwardSquirtle]

My biggest issue is that we know what demon-corrupted Eredar look like, and it's not Nathrezim.
They have different homeworlds too, which puts the "shared ancestor" theory to bed.
There's also the fact that if Velen were a dreadlord it would be a weak disguise, since you spotted the similarities. Why go for something in any way similar when we've seen Dreadlords transform themselves entirely into humans.
The issue is that the Draenei were introduced as non-demonic forms of the Eredar we had already seen, not forms of the Nathrezim.

I appreciate the idea in theory, but this one's just not the case.

[LarryWithTheWeatherReport]

Mal'ganis is a Dreadlord.

[Underverse]

He's not a dreadlord. He's the leader of the Church of the Light. He's the only truly good character in the game. He will become the High Exarch one day, mark my words.

Indeed Dreadlords are known for their extreme cunning. I believe Velen has just been playing us all along.

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Wait, that means... ARE ILLIDAN AND ALL TAURENS DREADLORDS TOO? I MEAN, LOOK AT THEIR FEET!Z0MFG

MY GOD YOURE RIGHT. I always knew those cow people were highly suspicious. Now we have evidence.

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Try to avoid making meme threads in the lore section please.

I'm dead serious, friend. This is a grave threat to all of Azeroth.

[jackofwind]

Indeed Dreadlords are known for their extreme cunning. I believe Velen has just been playing us all along.

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MY GOD YOURE RIGHT. I always knew those cow people were highly suspicious. Now we have evidence.

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I'm dead serious, friend. This is a grave threat to all of Azeroth.

And the backpedalling begins

[CoastGrowler]

That's right - a succubus is a female Nathrezim! And not only that, but the succubus appears to be the 'demonic' version of female Draenei, much like Dreadlords are the demonic version of male Draenei.
!

Actually... that's not correct. What you call a "demonic" version of a male draenei would be an eredar, and not a dreadlord.
Pretty sure someone must have said that already.

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Ethereals are actually animated toilet paper.

Mind=Blown. This is now my signature. Thank you, good sir.

[Demsi]

Nice try jaina, we're still onto you

[MORGATH99]

i think sargeras is dreadlord too but i dont go out and make a post about it

[Underverse]

My biggest issue is that we know what demon-corrupted Eredar look like, and it's not Nathrezim.
They have different homeworlds too, which puts the "shared ancestor" theory to bed.
There's also the fact that if Velen were a dreadlord it would be a weak disguise, since you spotted the similarities. Why go for something in any way similar when we've seen Dreadlords transform themselves entirely into humans.
The issue is that the Draenei were introduced as non-demonic forms of the Eredar we had already seen, not forms of the Nathrezim.

I appreciate the idea in theory, but this one's just not the case.

Actually... that's not correct. What you call a "demonic" version of a male draenei would be an eredar, and not a dreadlord.
Pretty sure someone must have said that already.

It's possible that the Nathrezim are the ancestors of the Draenei. And 'redemonizing' the Draenei gives you Eredar.

Or perhaps the Nathrezim were a cult of the Eredar (pre-Draenei split) that were caught using demon magic and fled to the Twisting Nether to avoid persecution, where they became twisted into Dreadlords by void energies (as opposed to the fel).

[kichigaijin]

You see similarities between Velen and dreadlords.

I see slightly modified models (read as lazy developers).

[Zulkhan]

A far better question is: was Tichondrius actually a Velen? I ask that because everyone knows already that Mal'Ganis is a Jaina.

[grexly75]

While we are at it Azeroth is actually a dreadlord as well, and that the titans are also were dreadlords too.. Heck everything in the WoW universe are dreadlords, the trees, flowers, grass and wildlife are dreadlords also..

[Xofa]

When will YOU understand that Jaina as a dreadlord is a fucking meme? Stop being a jackass who is trying to police the internet.

It's NOT a freaking meme you idiot! Do you even know wtf a meme is by this very point? It's people like you defending themselves saying it's a meme in hope trying to lead people astay. Just stop. I guess it's okay to let everyone run crazy without anything telling them to behave? Good reasoning, really! Bravo.

Infracted.

[Sylv_]

Horses have hoofs. Horses are Draenei Lords? Did I do that right?
Horse Walkers? Doom Horses? Draenei are horses? Wat?

Eggs are white, so is my sperm. Everyone who eats eggs eats my sperm.
#logic.

[Halyon]

Then why do they look like Draeneis? How do you explain that?

Similar features doesn't mean they're related. They had their own homeworld until it got boomed. So did Draenei. A different one. Eredar and Nathrezim are different species, despite both being demons. Horns, hooves, scales, wings, tails, etc, tend to be a common theme between a lot of demons, so suggesting that they must thus be the same is a bit silly. Otherwise you might as well say satyrs are Nathrezim as well...

[Zulkhan]

It's NOT a freaking meme you idiot! Do you even know wtf a meme is by this very point? It's people like you defending themselves saying it's a meme in hope trying to lead people astay. Just stop. I guess it's okay to let everyone run crazy without anything telling them to behave? Good reasoning, really! Bravo.

Infracted.

Except it's indeed a meme. No one takes that shit seriously anymore and very few did ever. The guy wasn't clearly serious as well yet you raised a dumb, unnecessary ruckus over it. Calm the fuck down.

Eggs are white, so is my sperm. Everyone who eats eggs eats my sperm.
#logic.

I know this is gonna ruin my capability of eating eggs for the next few years.

[Felfaadaern Darkterror]

OP is just noticing that some Eredar (Velen's race) work for the Legion?
OP is a real lore guru!

[Frozenbeef]

This looks like a draenei too, it also has wings. Must be a dreadlord.

[Leodok]

Then why do they look like Draeneis? How do you explain that?

For the same reason almost everyone looks like a human with a different skin color, pointy ears and occasional tusks?

[Pebrocks The Warlock]

It's NOT a freaking meme you idiot! Do you even know wtf a meme is by this very point? It's people like you defending themselves saying it's a meme in hope trying to lead people astay. Just stop. I guess it's okay to let everyone run crazy without anything telling them to behave? Good reasoning, really! Bravo.

Infracted.

The "Jaina is a dreadlord" meme is so memey that Blizzard themselves memed about it. HotS has a skin for her as a dreadlord.