Anti-antifa = fa

[Dastreus]

Zython seems incredibly out of touch. He/she is unaware of people saying "white people/males are inferior" to the point of denying it's ever happened, and thinks people complaining about this are just "hurt feelings" and "the only thing you can understand" because clearly, white people never have hardships in life. Zython thinks people opposing this narrow view of a black and white world are Nazis, "not that hard to stop", that there is a huge percentage of secret white supremacists, and referring to racism directed at white people as "facts that just hurt your feelings". If anyone ever said these things to people of other skin colors, they would rightly be called a racist.

Allow me to introduce you to the Uhuru movement. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uhuru_Movement

In short, the Uhuru movement supposes that white people stole technology from advanced Africans, and that white people are just cavemen, not human. The problem is this isn't too rare, and bits of it have leaked into SJW thoughts,



To clarify. I am not pointing these out as a way of trying to boost my image or some vapid non-sense. I don't see myself, or anyone as a color, because such things are utterly irrelevant. That said, I imagine the retort is "color blindness is still racism" as other SJWs state, so really, I am likely talking to a wall, here.

[Shazdk]

@Zython

Because the situation that resulted in the rise of Nazism was unique.

1. Lack of a strong and stable political system
2. Widespread grievances from the loss of WW1 and a strong sense of wanting to blame the "other" (made worse by Versailles)
3. Hyperinflation and economic collapse
4. Tolerance by the authorities of widespread, extreme political violence on the part of the right (see: Freikorps)
5. Deliberate exploitation and subsequent radicalization of latent societal views by Nazi leadership

None of these things is true about the US in 2017. Not one of them. Saying the "pattern is there" is utterly disingenuous and is intellectually flabby in the worst way.

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As an aside, the suppression of other ideas is much closer to the textbook definition of what a 'fascist' is than the promotion of any particular set of ideas. The economic and political shape that fascism has taken throughout history has been nebulous. The silencing of other ideas was, by contrast, pretty universal. If you want to uncover the fascists, look to who is prioritizing the shutdown of other ideas versus the promotion of their ideas. The gist of this is that if open debate and discussion is allowed, your ideas might look bad. That means you're afraid that your ideas will lose when they're tested. If you truly believe in what you're saying, and you believe that there is essential truth in the tenets of your movement, then let other ideas fight and lose. Nobody wins when silence does.

[Arkthugal]

I'm pretty sure it actually equals negative fa.

[Sorcath]

Maybe pick the side that doesn't want to commit ethnic cleansing?

Edit: Seriously, how fucking morally bankrupt are you people? "Sure, the Holocaust was bad, but I don't want my taxes to go up. Choices..."

Its funny that you forget to mention the wholesale extermination of most Commie leaders lhave against their own people.

Last time I checked, Stalin had Hitler beat. But ya know, morally bankrupt people such a yourself seem to have selective memory when it comes to moral compasses.

[Faldorian]

I can only think of "fa" from Do Re Mi when I read this thread title. I have nothing else to contribute. Only that. I've thought it every time I've read this thread title and I had to share that. Thank you for your time.

[Deleted]

i made my own group called anti-wrong, all who disagree with anything i say is therefore wrong.

[Rennadrel]

Zython seems incredibly out of touch. He/she is unaware of people saying "white people/males are inferior" to the point of denying it's ever happened, and thinks people complaining about this are just "hurt feelings" and "the only thing you can understand" because clearly, white people never have hardships in life. Zython thinks people opposing this narrow view of a black and white world are Nazis, "not that hard to stop", that there is a huge percentage of secret white supremacists, and referring to racism directed at white people as "facts that just hurt your feelings". If anyone ever said these things to people of other skin colors, they would rightly be called a racist.

Allow me to introduce you to the Uhuru movement. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uhuru_Movement

In short, the Uhuru movement supposes that white people stole technology from advanced Africans, and that white people are just cavemen, not human. The problem is this isn't too rare, and bits of it have leaked into SJW thoughts,

To clarify. I am not pointing these out as a way of trying to boost my image or some vapid non-sense. I don't see myself, or anyone as a color, because such things are utterly irrelevant. That said, I imagine the retort is "color blindness is still racism" as other SJWs state, so really, I am likely talking to a wall, here.

That woman is a god damn landwhale, she should be more worried about a stress induced stroke from being so obese than worrying about white people.

As far as your post is concerned, based on the average behavior of people based on their ethnicity or heritage (regardless of where their heritage is from), every single race has it's own unique behavioral patterns, or how they have developed throughout history. You tend to see more rudimentary, even primitive behavior and weaker technological proficiency from people of nations that are lesser developed like Africa, some parts of the Middle East, etc. White people have spent much of our known history seeking knowledge and advancing civilization, I can't say the same for certain parts of the world. Even though the Sumerian's, who are considered to be one of the first civilizations and developers of the first written language, were more adept and more interested in learning than many other ethnic groups that have sprung up around where Sumer was (modern day Syria).

[OrcsRLame]

Its funny that you forget to mention the wholesale extermination of most Commie leaders lhave against their own people.

Last time I checked, Stalin had Hitler beat. But ya know, morally bankrupt people such a yourself seem to have selective memory when it comes to moral compasses.

But that's Stalinism and not real communism! As if the chucklefucks that call themselves communists are gonna do it better than Lenin, Stalin and Mao, men that were actually very intelligent and driven.

[Zython]

Its funny that you forget to mention the wholesale extermination of most Commie leaders lhave against their own people.

Last time I checked, Stalin had Hitler beat. But ya know, morally bankrupt people such a yourself seem to have selective memory when it comes to moral compasses.

I never said anything about communism...

[Melius]

But that's Stalinism and not real communism! As if the chucklefucks that call themselves communists are gonna do it better than Lenin, Stalin and Mao, men that were actually very intelligent and driven.

oh dear it wasnt communism? my lord how stupid us eastern europeans were and it took some westerner to teach us what communism is. thank you good sir.

on a serious note not even 1 of you would ever think that communism is a great idea if you would HAVE LIVED IN IT! but hey like i said before, you know better, living in your free society, able to do and speak your mind. thanks man all us millions that suffered and the tens of millions that died because of it know now that it wasnt communism. ugh, nothing fools you better than the lie you tell yourself.

[Vyxn]

Facist = Nazis
AntiFa = Communist

Nazism = about 20 million mass murdered
Communism = over 140 million mass murdered

I choose neither but if I'm forced to choose one then I think would go with the one with the body count 7 times lower



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But that's Stalinism and not real communism! As if the chucklefucks that call themselves communists are gonna do it better than Lenin, Stalin and Mao, men that were actually very intelligent and driven.

every time in every place communism was ever implemented a mass body count soon followed
I guess everyone was just doing it wrong

[Acidz]

Facist = Nazis
AntiFa = Communist Anti-Fascist

What would you choose now?

[Vyxn]

What would you choose now?

I don't deal in untrue hypothetics

[Acidz]

I don't deal in untrue hypothetics

I see you are a real connaisseur of the movement then.

[Mayia]

Yes, they're called reactionaries. Their actions are not the fault of people advocating for social and economic welfare of the marginalized, but them being fucking assholes. The hell's your point? That we should stop pushing for trans people to be able to use the bathroom in peace because TrustFund McSpoiledBrat will go out and murder people? Fuck that shit.

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If your sense of morality is guided by what's legal and what isn't, I have some bad news for you.

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The idea of "White children" being the "future of the white race" is a neo-Nazi belief (it's part of the 14 words). This was made by a neo-Nazi.

This is why the far-right does such a shit job of impersonating the left. They don't understand what the left actually stands for, so they just construct their shit from strawmen (See the "Blacks Rule" written on that guy's driveway as an example). For god's sake, why would you think that anarchists have a centralized national organization? Think for a few minutes.

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THAT'S your conclusion? Did it never occur to you that maybe this was made by a Nazi to discredit antifa? Did it NEVER occur to you that literally anyone can print this shit?

My morality is guided by what is right and what is wrong.
Murder is wrong, Death camps are wrong, Stealing peoples homes, farms, killing them for political reasons are all wrong.
These are things Both the Nazi's and Commies have in common a massive death toll.

If you can sit in judgement of the germans during world war 2, and ignore every time communism fails and ends up killing just as many if not more people than a bunch of racist crazy nazi's then you are mentally challenged.


In 2016/17 and so on, we've proven time and time again the system the western world uses is currently the best it makes the most people happy, it gives the most people the most chances, some rise above some fall below, but any other system forces outcomes rather than allowing outcomes to happen by chance or by skill/intelligence.

I don't want to live in a country that forces everyone to be poor besides the party's corrupt leaders, nor do i wish to live in a country that forces a race gender or randomly chosen attribute to be the scapegoat and make them be poor, the fact you do only shows you are either Greedy or Lazy, and really stupid because any system that bad will sooner or later step on every supporter because that is human nature.


Antifa are a group of criminals and Terrorists, the sooner they get put into jail when breaking the law the better, because the longer Antifa gets away with breaking the law the more likely a radical right wing group will try to do the same thing, then what?
I don't bloody well care if the Antifa scumbags, and Neo Nazi's idiots kill each other the problem is neither of you dickheads can tell who the enemy is and you'll beat up your own members for sporting "Nazi" haircuts, how long until this kind of insane paranoia leads to some stupid Antifa kid thinking he see's a nazi' and ends up stabbing a woman and her child to death who was just trying to buy bread?

Both groups need to drown themselves or go live in a non western country the major population cares for neither side, and your idea's are worthless.

[GrinningMan]

'Do unto others as you would have done unto you'

Good to know that members of antifa would like to be bludgeoned by bike locks.

[Mayia]

What would you choose now?

They are both Facist's you idiot.
They act exactly the same way the only difference is the end goal, their actions are the same.

When a group will willingly *punch* anyone they suspect is a nazi just to stop them from talking that isn't much of a leap between killing people who they think are nazi's and i hear facist's love murdering a bunch of people they suspect are "evil" Antifa wants a holocaust too, just they have a different target than the other insane group.

Nobody with a brain can choose either side, White race? we are all the same fucking species, If you support either side you are mentally insane, everyone in the middle just wants you all to go drop off the face of the planet, why not go fix Russia? its closer to Socialism heaven than America is clearly you'd have a better chance over there.. shoo shoo.. i'm sure putin would welcome you.

Oh Antifa doesn't want to go to another country to create a socialist system? aww that is just because they don't really want the result they are mostly bratty little children stomping their feet who don't want to work which is why socialism sounds good to their naive ears, the Neo nazi's i don't know where they'd like to go Germany is screwed so it isn't there in terms of countries of people with similar natures i'd say Africa plenty of other idiots over there who think their skin colour is important enough to take peoples homes away and end up killing people to prove how superior they are if the two groups had a pissing contest it'd at least be entertaining.

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Yeah people with no empathy can easily justify hurting others if they are "the bad guys" they use excuses like they are preventing violence.. by committing violence.
They know just how retarded they are but its a holy crusade if they could call out the name of their god when they ran into battle it'd basically be like the crusades and the major problem is everytime two groups like this fight its civilians who end up dying.

[Deleted]

Antifa has yet to overthrow a government.. or even try.

Unless you count ISIS/Hitler/Mussolini



That is irrelevant.

Did you just call the Allies during WW2 antifa?

[Mayia]

Did you just call the Allies during WW2 antifa?

its a now banned idiot who failed to understand that Churchill spoke about the facist's coming back in such a manner even back then.
Ignorant of history and of reality is something you see often on both sides facts take a back seat to feelings because those nasty facts get in the way of punching all the *insert name here*

[OrcsRLame]

Antifa saved the world in World War 2.

No they didn't.