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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by Blade Wolf View Post
    Some of the members from the rally are actual SD members.
    SD members =/= SD politicians. Anyone can join, it costs 200 sek annually to be a member.

  2. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by Blade Wolf View Post
    Some of the members from the rally are actual SD members.
    Really? I'm certainly not saying that it can't be true that a few actually were, particularly not as it is quite easy to become a member of a party and that no party can keep track of what all their members do on their spare time (just ask the Left Party), but mind showing what you base that on?

    I'm just as aware of SD's issues with a chequered past and people with a racist agenda tending to go there (where else would they go, seeing the alternatives apart from SD) as the rest of you. Calling them "the nazis" is straight out retarded though, objectively so. And what point does it serve, going that route we can start to call the Left Party "the stalinists", the Social Democrats "the guardians of Swedish racial purity", etc etc. It's literally drivel, nothing else.

  3. #123
    SD has Nazi roots, but they've cleaned themselves up a fair bit by now. Still, generally not the most law abiding people in SD (in relation to the other political parties members).
    "In order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must be intolerant of intolerance." Paradox of tolerance

  4. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by Dezerte View Post
    SD has Nazi roots, but they've cleaned themselves up a fair bit by now. Still, generally not the most law abiding people in SD (in relation to the other political parties members).
    Propably true. The feminist party is likely even worse though, if you look at the (now former) leadership. Victoria Kaweza and Tiina Rosenberg hits a spot with me (as an academic, I LOATHE people that plagiarize other peoples academic work without the slightest bit of remorse, which of course is a crime as well), and Gudrun Schyman doesn't need an explanation. Not sure if she was ever indicted for indecent exposure or similar, her cinema-antics being public might have been considered enough of a punishment already...

    But yes, SD (and I bet V to a degree) propably stands out in this regard.

  5. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by Aggrophobic View Post
    That is pure bullshit and you know it.
    It isn't, you obviously haven't been to Malmö in present time.

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  6. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by Daneman View Post
    It isn't, you obviously haven't been to Malmö in present time.
    To be fair, it is a bit exaggerated. It's not as dangerous as some of the doomsayers say. Still bad, but you won't get robbed the moment you step outside.

    My girlfriend spent a 2 week vacation in Malmö this summer and was walking around alone, late at night, every night with no hassle at all.

    Just as long as you are in the northern parts of Malmö, there's really no big danger. Just stay away from Södra Sofielund, Möllevången and further south and it's alright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dezerte View Post
    SD has Nazi roots, but they've cleaned themselves up a fair bit by now. Still, generally not the most law abiding people in SD (in relation to the other political parties members).
    I'm not actually sure that's correct. I remember seeing some list a few years back with people from other parties who were convicted of pretty serious crimes, and it was by no means a small list for each party. It's just that SD gets all the focus in media that makes it seem that way.

    Just take a look at past few weeks. Some girl who reported sexual harassment got the media all winded up, but when the very same thing happened within socialdemokraterna just a few days later only a small, local newspaper (Vimmerby) reported it.

  7. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by Daneman View Post
    It isn't, you obviously haven't been to Malmö in present time.
    Last week, if that counts as "present time".

  8. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by Deathknightish View Post

    I'm not actually sure that's correct. I remember seeing some list a few years back with people from other parties who were convicted of pretty serious crimes, and it was by no means a small list for each party. It's just that SD gets all the focus in media that makes it seem that way.

    Just take a look at past few weeks. Some girl who reported sexual harassment got the media all winded up, but when the very same thing happened within socialdemokraterna just a few days later only a small, local newspaper (Vimmerby) reported it.
    You mean this list?

    Sverigedemokraterna

    Martin Kinnunen, bokföringsbrott,

    Carina Herrstedt, förtal tre gånger.

    Markus Wiechel, förtal.

    Roger Hedlund, misshandel

    Robert Larsson, häleri, stöld och olovlig körning.

    Linus Bylund, våld mot tjänsteman

    Runar Filper, stöld, misshandel och narkotikabrott

    Kent Ekeroth, misshandel



    Centerpartiet

    Sture Andersson, Burträsk, grovt rattfylleri

    Bo Kallerman, Sala, sexuellt ofredande

    Alexandra Kvarnström, Lycksele, trolöshet mot huvudman

    Björn Mårtensson, Edsbyn, grovt rattfylleri

    Per-Olov Zethrin, Lidingö, bl.a grovt bokförings- och skattebrott

    Patrik Öbrink, Gävle, grovt bedrägeri och grov förskingring

    Kvinna, Stockholm, hot mot tjänsteman och våldsamt motstånd



    Folkpartiet

    Isak Bergdahl, Uppsala, förargelseväckande beteende

    Åke Blomqvist, Huddinge, försök till köp av sexuell tjänst

    Jimmy Drushammar, Stockholm, grov misshandel, stöld och grovt bedrägeri

    Carl Ek, Malmö, trolöshet mot huvudman och stöld

    Christer Falkheimer, Höganäs, grov förskingring, grov trolöshet mot huvudman och urkundsförfalskning

    Rocio Fernandez, Göteborg, bedrägligt beteende

    Mats Granath, Nacka, grov rattfylla

    Per Jodenius, Stockholm, dataintrång och anstiftan till dataintrång

    Marita Jönsson, Hällevadsholm, förskingring

    Azad Karim, Västerås, olaga hot och grov vårdslöshet i trafik

    Björn Molin, Haverdal, försök till köp av sexuell tjänst

    Mats Nilsson, Umeå, bedrägeri och urkundsförfalskning

    Sven-Erik Näslund, Västernorrland, trolöshet mot huvudman

    Peter Olsson, Ånge, trolöshet mot huvudman

    Philip Pedersen, Landskrona, misshandel och ringa vapenbrott - skyddstillsyn

    Karin Pilsäter, Stockholm, rattfylleri

    Maria Robsahm (fd. Carlshamre), bokföringsbrott

    Patric Svensson, Växjö, rattfylleri



    Kristdemokraterna

    Arne Carlström, Oxelösund, barnpornografibrot

    Tom Hellgren, Eskilstuna, förargelseväckande beteende

    Claus Helmberger, Malmö, förskingring och urkundsförfalskning

    Elias Mardini, Sigtuna, rödljuskörning och bestickning

    Mats Reimbertsson, Stockholm, olaga hot, ofredande och förolämpning

    Mattias Reinhard, Töreboda, grov kvinnofridskränkning och misshandel

    Ingrid Svensson (tidigare Näsman), Falun, bedrägeri

    Man, Västsverige, sexuellt utnyttjande av underårig

    Chatrine Pålsson Ahlgren, Mönsterås, Rattfylleri



    Miljöpartiet

    Daniel Jesus Arrospide Alata, försök till mord, grov mordbrand, grovt rån, stämpling till mened och falsk tillvitelse

    Mir Englund Dusim, Göteborg, köp av sexuell tjänst

    Per Gahrton, Täby, rattfylleri

    Güler Gül, Boden, snatteri

    David Holloman, Umeå, häleri

    Richard Klinsmeister, Göteborg, olaga tvång och ofredande, olaga hot, olaga intrång, ofredande och skadegörelse

    Michael Leventis, Höganäs, sexuellt utnyttjande av barn, sexuellt ofredande och barnpornografibrott

    Ragnar Mensner, Arvika, grov förskingring

    Glenn Nilsson, Tranemo, olovlig körning, grovt olovligt brukande, grov olovlig körning, rattfylleri och ringa narkotikabrott, två fall av narkotikabrott

    Peter Norrby, Hultsfred, spritsmuggling och snatteri

    Kenneth Persson, Hylte, snatteri

    Mikael Rastenberger, Lilla Edet, narkotikabrott och rattfylleri

    Mattias Stenberg, Norrköping, ringa narkotikabrott i två fall

    Bernt Varvemo, Vaxholm, rån, mordbrand och grovt olaga hot

    Marcel Wisselqvist, Söderhamn, sexuellt utnyttjande av person i beroendeställning

    Eva Öberg, Färjestaden, grovt rattfylleri

    Christer Öhgren, Stockholm, förförelse av ungdom och olovligt anskaffande av alkoholdrycker



    Moderaterna

    Robert Andersson, Älmhult, skattebrott

    Per Asklund, Laholm, försök till köp av sexuell tjänst

    Gunnar Axén, Norrköping, licenssmitning

    Anders Bengtsson, Hudiksvall, obehörigt avvikande från trafikolycksplats och otillåten omkörning

    Tobias Billström, Malmö, licenssmitning

    Margaretha Bjälkemo, Svenljunga, grovt bedrägeri samt grovt bidragsbrott

    Per Bondesson, Malmö, grovt narkotikabrott och försök till grov narkotikasmuggling

    Maria Borelius, Stockholm, licenssmitning

    Nils-Erik Bäckström, Bjurholm, rattfylleri

    Inger Börjesson, Gimo, grov förskingring

    Jan Carlsson, Kungsbacka, bokförings- och skattebrott, försvårande av skattekontroll

    Maria Dellham, Västerås, bedrägeri

    Gary Dybeck, Karlstad, otillbörlig marknadspåverkan

    Margareta Engström, Sundsvall, rattfylleri

    Göran Fahlgren, Sotenäs, våldtäkt

    Håkan Fäldt, Malmö, fortkörning

    Henrik Gliveson, Blekinge, grov kvinnofridskränkning och grov misshandel

    Roger Grentzelius, Östra Ryd, köp av sexuell handling av barn och köp av sexuell tjänst tre våldtäkter mot barn, två fall av sexuellt ofredande samt ett sexuellt övergrepp mot barn och övergrepp i rättssak

    Rolf Gunnarsson, Stockholm, försök till köp av sexuell tjänst

    Antoine Haddad, Uppsala, olovligt anskaffande av *alkoholdrycker

    Morgan von Hage, Hägersten, grov stöld

    Jonas Hällblad, Norberg, misshandel

    Peter Isoz, Jönköping, vapenbrott

    Fredrik Johansson, Grästorp, stöld

    Jörgen Johansson, Härryda, hot mot tjänsteman

    Torbjörn Junhov, Östersund, sexuellt utnyttjande av minderårig

    Peter Jutterström, Jönköping, bokföringsbrott

    Peter Larsson, Luleå, olaga frihetsberövande, olaga hot, misshandel och medhjälp till misshandel, medhjälp till olaga hot

    Chania Lundgren, Skellefteå, hets mot folkgrupp

    Börje Löfgren, Trosa, bokföringsbrott och skattebrott

    Christer Nordin, Båstad, olaga hot

    Lars Olin, Vellinge, medhjälp till brott mot miljöbalken

    Lennart Persson, Östra Göinge, trolöshet mot huvudman

    Pontus Pålsson, Åstorp, fortkörning

    Ulf Ranstorp, Laholm, bokföringsbrott, grovt bedrägeri

    Bruno Reinfeldt, Täby, rattfylleri

    Janna Rosenquist, Helsingborg, snatteri

    Lennart Ryde, Lund, rattfylleri

    Majid Safaee, 58, Härnösand, grovt rattfylleri

    Klaus Schüffler, Lerum, grovt skattebrott och medhjälp därtill, grovt bokföringsbrott och medhjälp därtill, grov förskingring, grov oredlighet mot borgenär, förberedelse till grovt skattebrott, brott mot aktiebolagslagen

    Harald Siegel, Österåker, rattfylleri

    Fredrik Sjöberg, Knivsta, ringa misshandel

    Johnny Skoog, Hallstahammar, grovt rattfylleri

    Johan Steenhoff-Eriksen, Stockholm, grovt barnpornografibrott

    Cecilia Stegö Chilò, licenssmitning

    Börje Svensson, Falun, grovt bedrägeri

    Hans Taremark, Öckerö, grovt tjänstefel

    Magnus Tegborg, Bromma, misshandel

    Wladimir Tsagalidis, Stockholm, stöld

    Victor Hugo Bravo Vicuña, Stockholm, olaga intrång, olaga frihetsberövande, olaga tvång, olaga hot och egenmäktigt förfarande

    Annétthe Zettergren, Torsby, grovt bedrägeri

    Mikael Ågren, Malung, tre fall av trolöshet mot huvudman och bokföringsbrott

    Michael Östlund, Uppsala, olaga hot

    Man, Göteborg, bokföringsbrott, köp av sexuella tjänster, trolöshet mot huvudman, vårdslöshet i trafik och rattfylleri

    Kvinna, Sundsvall, rattfylla

    Man, Gotland, stöld

    Reidar Ek (m), Mönsterås, rattfylla,



    Socialdemokraterna

    Mona Sahlin, urkundsförfalskning, förskingring

    Jerry Adbo, Stockholm, våldsamt motstånd

    Jan Andersson, Norrköping, köp av sexuella tjänster

    Klas Andersson, Söderköping, köp av sexuella tjänster

    Ulf Andersson, Vilhelmina, grovt jaktbrott

    Marcus Arnesson, Göteborg, olaga hot och sexuellt ofredande

    Kent Arrehag, Härnösand, bestickning

    Ing-Marie Berggren, Varberg, hot mot tjänsteman

    Kajsa Borgnäs, Stockholm, stöld

    Raili Borg, Umeå, grovt rattfylleri

    Iqbal Bashir Butt, Sigtuna, misshandel

    Juan-José Cassis, Visby, misshandel och olaga hot

    Mohammed Chaker, Luleå, olaga hot

    Mohammad Adel Daabas, Malmö, misshandel

    Torgny Danielsson, Åmotfors, grovt rattfylleri

    Aho Dulan, Södertälje, olaga vapeninnehav och rattfylleri

    Anita Engström, Luleå, stöld, snatteri

    Bo Eriksson, Nyköping, rattfylleri

    Charles Eriksson, Ödeshög, olaga hot

    Leif Fast, Hudiksvall, fyra fall av bokföringsbrott

    Manuel Gomez, Halmstad, grov misshandel

    Mahmoud Haidar, Kalmar, ringa hot mot tjänsteman

    Jan Hammer, Västerås, misshandel

    Lena Hartwig, Uppsala, ohörsamhet mot ordningsmakten

    Frida Heikki, Piteå, bedrägeri

    Jan Emanuel Johansson, Norrtälje, bokföringsbrott och försvårande av skattekontroll

    Peter Jonsson, Trollhättan, rattfylla

    Birgitta Kihlgren, Forshaga, grov trolöshet mot huvudman

    Alf Kjerrman, Älvkarleby, urkundsförfalskning och grovt bedrägeri

    Baki Krasniqi, Trelleborg, vapenbrott och brott mot vapenlagen

    Gun-Britt Lagerkvist, Malmö, grov förskingring

    Mats Lagerman, Lindesberg, försök till trolöshet mot huvudman

    Toni Lappalainen, Kalmar, olaga hot, stöld, skadegörelse och bedrägeri, förtal

    Lars-Olof Larsson (tidigare Hägred), brott mot knivlagen, två fall av misshandel

    Heléne Larsson, Storfors, misshandel

    Ulrika Lidberg, Lidköping, grov förskingring

    Hanna Lindmark, Luleå, bedrägeri

    Jehangir Mohammad, Malmö, misshandel

    Bo-Inge Nilsson, Åmotsfors, rattfylleri

    Jan Norberg, Timrå, fortkörning

    Helen Hagström Nordendorph, Uddevalla, urkundsförfalskning och bedrägeri

    Magnus Nyman, Eskilstuna, misshandel

    Leif Palmgren, Stockholm, rattfylleri

    Hans-Erik Palmqvist, Landskrona, föregripelse mot tjänsteman

    Mia Romppainen, Tornedalen, misshandel och olaga tvång

    Tomas Rudin, Stockholm, snatteri

    Annelie Rudolfsson, Lysekil, olovlig körning och fortkörning, trolöshet mot huvudman

    Monica Rydin, Surahammar, otillbörligt verkande vid röstning

    Roger Sandlund, Haparanda, jaktbrott

    Börje Silk, Bandhagen, grovt sexuellt utnyttjande av underårig och grov våldtäkt mot barn

    Anna Sjödin, Stockholm, ringa våld mot tjänsteman, våldsamt motstånd, förolämpning och egenmäktigt förfarande,

    Ran Svanlund, Dorotea, skadegörelse

    Sven-Olof Svensson, Varberg, tre fall av köp av sexuell tjänst

    Marcus Svärd, Kalmar, sexuellt utnyttjande av barn

    Niklas Sörman, Skaraborg, dataintrång

    Saied Tagavi, Solna, otillbörligt verkande vid röstning, röstfusk

    Nigisti Tekle, Stockholm, stöld

    Desiree Waaranperä Krutrök, Övertorneå, bokföringsbrott

    Johanna Wall, Salem, stöld

    Sören Westerholm, Oskarshamn, grovt bedrägeri

    Man, Lessebo, förskingring

    Man, Stockholm, grovt bedrägeri

    Man, Västerbotten, kvinnofridskränkning



    Vänsterpartiet

    Urban Blomster, Tierp, olaga hot och flera fall av misshandel, misshandel

    Håkan Bruman, Kramfors, sexuellt ofredande mot minderåriga

    Hugo Diaz de Filippi, Malmö, stöld

    Zana Hussan, Järfälla, förtal

    Awara Ibrahim, Kristianstad, tio fall av våldtäkt

    Torbjörn Johansson, Mönsterås, misshandel

    Daniel Kihl, Svenljunga, dubbelmord och mordförsök

    Victor Lagercrantz, Göteborg, förskingring och urkundsförfalskning

    Andreas Lifvenskiöld,Västerås, trolöshet mot huvudman, grovt brott

    Rune-Andreas Lundsholt, Ransäter, grov kvinnofridskränkning

    Leif Mellberg, Tibro, förskingring

    Daniel Nilsson, Mariestad, narkotikabrott

    Agneta Norberg, Stockholm, störande av förrättning

    Jackie Nylander, Stockholm, misshandel och olaga hot

    Lilly Näslund (numera Svahn), Stockholm, våldsamt upplopp och skadegörelse

    Sasa Sacipovic, Laholm, misshandel

    Roger Strömberg, Vara, förargelseväckande beteende

    Annette Ternstedt, Bengtsfors, rattfylla och fortkörning, rattfylla

    Nestor Vega, Skaraborg, grovt bedrägeri och rattfylleri

  9. #129
    Arrested? Where is their freedom of speech?

  10. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by Deathknightish View Post
    Just take a look at past few weeks. Some girl who reported sexual harassment got the media all winded up, but when the very same thing happened within socialdemokraterna just a few days later only a small, local newspaper (Vimmerby) reported it.
    Or Per Svedberg (S), who drunk as a skunk and standing in his underwear, kept banging the room door of a terrified party colleague, yelling "Knulla! Knulla för fan!" (Fuck! Fuck goddamnit! (as in the purely sexual verb "to fuck")). And all this in the actual parliament building, with the woman eventually having to call for security, who dragged him away. The result? Minor article, still a member of parliament, no time-out, no nothing apart from some alcohol-counselling.

    All other things aside, it is pretty safe to say that mainstream media does NOT treat all parties in the same manner. Which I am certain is something that keeps backfiring on them, the populace in general can't help but to notice it, and adapt to it, leaving SD-scandals less interesting and less upsetting than for many other parties. For good or for bad, depending on perspective.

  11. #131
    Quote Originally Posted by Deathknightish View Post
    Just take a look at past few weeks. Some girl who reported sexual harassment got the media all winded up, but when the very same thing happened within socialdemokraterna just a few days later only a small, local newspaper (Vimmerby) reported it.
    She was raped, not harassed. The other part is that she (and others confirmed) told media that members of SD is punished if they bring forth issues of sexual harassment within the party. And then their leader acts like an idiot by pretending that he has never heard anything about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toxicrusader View Post
    Arrested? Where is their freedom of speech?
    The police had allowed them to take a certain route. When they tried to take a different path the police basically told them "no you don't" and some of the nazi wanted to pick a fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathknightish View Post
    Difference is that in Europe, AFA does not consist of cellardwelling neckbeards who have arms as wide as a tooth-pick. They are much, much more dangerous here than they are over the pond. They have actually killed people here.
    But yes, they share the trait to instigate violence and are often the first ones to strike.
    ah, the american ones tend to take one shot and run. Shameful cowardice really. I can't figure out why anyone would actually support them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    Wasn't Sweden supposed to be one of the bright spots in Europe? What happened..
    Are you serious?

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    Quote Originally Posted by toxicrusader View Post
    Arrested? Where is their freedom of speech?
    Went out the window when they assulted the police.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mumba View Post
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    The police had allowed them to take a certain route. When they tried to take a different path the police basically told them "no you don't" and some of the nazi wanted to pick a fight.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zecora View Post
    Went out the window when they assulted the police.
    Please take note of my sarcasm.

    I don't care about nazis and their freedom of speech. To hell with them!

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    "Armed" with a helmet and shield?
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Posting here is primarily a way to strengthen your own viewpoint against common counter-arguments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AeneasBK View Post
    "Armed" with a helmet and shield?
    The flags are not flags, they're spears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathknightish View Post
    I'm not actually sure that's correct.
    It may be for violent crimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    Not good. Not good at all.

    Wasn't Sweden supposed to be one of the bright spots in Europe? What happened..
    Don't you mean rape capital of the world? Sweden hasn't been in the news positively for a few years now. It's no surprise that people rise up to do the dirty work the government doesn't want to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seranthor View Post
    Oh look, OP demonstrates yet again that they care nothing for the rules and choses to create spam threads instead.

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...t-and-far-left
    That thread isn't really about what this thread is about though.

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