Active shooter on Las Vegas strip.

[Machismo]

It boils down to "harm others"... is hate speech harming others? Is self-defense harming others? Is poverty or excessive wealth harming others?

Hate speech is not harming others. Neither poverty, nor extreme wealth is harming others. Defending one's self is possibly harming others, but was used to stop someone from harming you in the first place. The first person broke the "rule" first, and is the main transgressor.

[-Nurot]

The same reason you're full of shit. People are hoping the other side did it so they can blame them for the deaths.

Again. Don't pretend you're better than people calling this a leftist plot.

What people? Why would anyone assume this was left/right wing? Historically odds are 1 of 3, Isis, Right-wing, or mentally unstable (can be left or right, but no motive found). Those are the most likely perpetrators. Is there a chance it could be another reason? Sure, but at this point does it matter? Only kids in here talking about Trump, are the Trump fans. Not everything is about him, except when it actually is...

Just because you're hoping this is a left wing attack doesn't mean everyone else in here has equally sinister hopes. I'd hope most of us in here, regardless of political alignment are actually better than that.

[Mormolyce]

Im not saying its a good thing, but if you were to ban legally purchasing guns, and bought all the guns back from private citizens who legally purchased them and destroyed them, it would do close to nothing in terms of gun homicides. I bet anything this guy either stole those weapons from an armory (idk how he would get on a military base, into a vault, and then steal them), or he got them from an arms dealer, which means laws would have done nothing. Most homicide victims are killed with illegally purchased fire arms. Also, i dont think people should be able to purchase them as easily as they can in some states, I know i have a handgun for person protection in my house and car, but I had to pay a 2k licensing fee, go through extended background checks, interview with the local PD, followed by a 6 week "cool-down" period, and im a veteran.

The vast majority of "illegal guns" originate from legal outlets. Straw purchases and the like.

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Inb4 americans try to blame it on Islam

You're in way after that.

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The Portland stabber.

No silly, a "piece of Bernie or Hillary gear".

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Hate speech is not harming others.

Not true. Antifa is a hate group. Antifa has harmed many and caused millions of damage through their hate speech.

In fact, I would say Antifa - and the people that support them - are the biggest hate group on this planet. Even more so than the radical Islamic terrorists.

[Bajat]

Is it already confirmed that the shooter was a muslim terrorist? Or only suspected?

CONFIRMED: twitterDOTcom/AP/status/914856906346377216
It was the muslim terrorist organisation Islamic State.

[Dextroden]

What people? Why would anyone assume this was left/right wing? Historically odds are 1 of 3, Isis, Right-wing, or mentally unstable (can be left or right, but no motive found). Those are the most likely, at this point does it matter? Only kids in here talking about Trump, are the trump fans.....

Just because you're hoping this is a left wing attack doesn't mean everyone else in here has equally sinister hopes. I'd hope most of us in here, regardless of political alignment are better than that.

Good thing I can trust you're not full of shit. Absolutely zero chance you want to set this at Trump's feet like the people that want to blame leftists for it.

[LMuhlen]

Hate speech is not harming others. Neither poverty, nor extreme wealth is harming others. Defending one's self is possibly harming others, but was used to stop someone from harming you in the first place. The first person broke the "rule" first, and is the main transgressor.

Yeah, exactly. I don't agree at all, they are all harmful. So your freedom is already different than mine if we associate freedom with no harm.

[Etselion]

CONFIRMED: twitterDOTcom/AP/status/914856906346377216
It was the muslim terrorist organisation Islamic State.

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/914862474893185024

UPDATE: Senior U.S. officials say no evidence Vegas shooter was connected to international militant group after ISIS claims responsibility.

[-Nurot]

Good thing I can trust you're not full of shit. Absolutely zero chance you want to set this at Trump's feet like the people that want to blame leftists for it.

Again, it sure is telling that you want to blame this on the left-wing, and assume everyone else's outlook on life is just as perverse. Nice job coming in here though and siding with the guy wishing for the left-wing to be purged and claiming everyone, yourself included, feels this way about their political opposition, regarding this tragedy...... Stay classy.

[Xandrigity]

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/914862474893185024

UPDATE: Senior U.S. officials say no evidence Vegas shooter was connected to international militant group after ISIS claims responsibility.

ISIS will claim responsibly for the grand opening of a Taco Bell

Literally anything

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CONFIRMED: twitterDOTcom/AP/status/914856906346377216
It was the muslim terrorist organisation Islamic State.

Islamic state would claim you dropping a can of soda as their terrorist attack

[Bajat]

NO. They haven't released the name of the shooter yet. But the Sheriff for Clark County said the suspect's roommate Marilou Danley was wanted for questioning, and her only other person listed there is a Stephen C. Paddock. Does that sound Muslim to you?

Well, see above post; it was confirmed by Islamic State.

[Dextroden]

Again, it sure is telling that you want to blame this on the left-wing, and assume everyone else's outlook on life is just as perverse. Nice job coming in here though and siding with the guy wishing for the left-wing to be purged and claiming everyone, yourself included, feels this way about their political opposition, regarding this tragedy...... Stay classy.

Care to quote where I said I think it is a leftist plot and agree with the people I called idiots? Meanwhile, your stance in the Politics dumping ground makes it believable you'd blame Trump for this.

[dvaz]

he suspected gunman behind the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history was a 64-year-old Nevada resident who fired out of his room at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino before turning his gun on himself, police said.

Damn, people are lucky it didn't occur to him to throw a grenade first, CoD style

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ISIS will claim responsibly for the grand opening of a Taco Bell

Literally anything

Nah thats too far, thats infidel food. More like a Kebab shop

[Stonecloak]

The "left" and "right" sides are institutions. If you were born in a society/culture that did not participate in this, it would be alien to you. Worse is they perpetuate each other. The right creates the left, and the left creates the right in an endless cycle of poo. This shooting likely has zero to do with this.

[Etselion]

A 64 year old accountant with an Alaska hunting license.

That fucker has to had a MAGA hat somewhere.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/las-vegas-s...ry?id=50225619

[Lahis]

18:05: CNN:n haastatteleman seriffin mukaan poliisit löysivät epäillyn ampujan huoneen sieltä kantautuneen palohälyttimen äänen perusteella. Palohälytin oli alkanut soida, sillä miehen ammuskelusta oli syntynyt huoneeseen niin paljon savua.

https://www.is.fi/ulkomaat/art-2000005391259.html

"Update 6:05 PM: According to sheriff interviewed by CNN, the police found the suspect's hotel room because the fire alarm was ringing there. The alarm had gone off because the man's shooting had generated so much smoke."

If that is legit, man, that is lots of rounds.

[deadman1]

tell that to canadian police who go getting into knife fights after this type of impact

Citation needed? Why are you talking about something without showing me the scenario?

[Narwal]

And when we find out that the shooter is some white good old boy prepper who got methed up a bit too much, you're going to stand by this statement, I'm guessing.

It depends, radical islamic terrorism is such a large percentage of large attacks that terrorism, a general term, has been branded in today's language to mean radical islamic terrorism.

It's hard to know the motive in this terrorism attack, because the guy doesn't fit the description for any of the known major terrorism players of today.

1) We haven't heard anything on his religion, so we assume he's not radical in that way. Clearly he doesn't fit the description of a person in any religion currently waging jihad.
2) His target audience seems to fit the group of people he would most likely be associated with by people who don't know him. He's been known to be a hunter, he's an older white male, this would immediately lump him into rural white america by most other Americans. If he was disgruntled with society you'd think he would attack a culture of society he does not associate with.
3) According to family members there were no actual indicators. In the past when family said they didn't expect this, usually they still heard something, just didn't take it seriously.

This one will be interesting. I hope they figure out why he did this, because we really need to understand who this person was, and what their goal was.

[Risale]

Trump has issued the stock standard bland copypasta tweet:



"Warmest condolences"? He seriously has no idea how words work.



LOL.

The woman in question is Filipino-Australian, apparently.

So she is either a catholic (92% of all filipino's) or maybe anglican but I doubt that.
For those that wonder Dubai is a layover destination for European travel to or from Australia it is also a holiday destination for a shitload of americans just behind the UK in number of tourists yet american tourists are the biggest spenders while staying there.
Also the Dubai is the 4th most visited city in the world the others being London, Paris & Bangkok.

But guess that if you are brown you are automatically a member of islam and hell bent on converting white men to the cause.