Active shooter on Las Vegas strip.

[Bodakane]

It's so typical of the NRA sycophants and the right.

- We cannot have any laws regulating firearm ownership or purchasing.

- Ok, why?

- Because it won't stop bad guys from getting guns.

- Ok, how are bad guys getting guns?

- They steal them.

- Ok, let's set up a registry that way we can see where these guns are being stolen from.

- Nope, then the government will know who to take guns from.

- Why would they do that?

- Because the government can't be trusted. They want to take our guns and the only way to stop them from oppressing us is to be fully armed.

- Oh, so you think we shouldn't trust the government and they are out to hurt us?

- Yup.

- So you agree with Black Live Matter?

- Hell no, Blue Lives Matter.

- Dafuq?

[adamzz]

There's 88 guns per 100 people in the US and about 10 gun-related deaths per 100000. Compare that to for example the UK that has 6.2 guns per 100 and 0.25 gun related deaths per 100000.

But sure, having more guns prevents gun related deaths. hurr durr

[Shadoweye]

What would've reduced the amount of deaths in Las Vegas?

1. Smaller clip size

2. No bump firing and if a rifle can be bump fired, ban it. Get manufacturers to modify rifles so they can't bump fire.

3. Really long wait periods before you get to take the gun home, like 2 years.

And that's about it, Nobody is going to suspect a 64 year old man to do something like this.

1: magazine size does not reduce killing capacity of anyone even mildly versed in firearms. A magazine can be dropped and replaced in 1 second or less.

2: bump firing, in this instance, likely saved more lives, as it severely reduces the accuracy of the rifle being fired.

3: Wait periods dont stop things like this from happening, as there are a number of illegal means of acquiring firearms on underground markets.

[Travis B]

2: bump firing, in this instance, likely saved more lives, as it severely reduces the accuracy of the rifle being fired.

lol @ you talking about accuracy regarding a guy shooting into a crowd of thousands of people from over 1600 feet away

[Kalador]

1: magazine size does not reduce killing capacity of anyone even mildly versed in firearms. A magazine can be dropped and replaced in 1 second or less.

you can only carry so many magazine and yes changing mag slows you, also 5+ bullets magazine serve 0 purpose outside of war situation. And if it's just to play around then leave it at the fire range like every other restricted weapon.

2: bump firing, in this instance, likely saved more lives, as it severely reduces the accuracy of the rifle being fired.

The guy was firing in a 22000 people crowd, accuracy was the least of is concern. it was all about firing as many bullet as possible in the least amount of time.

3: Wait periods dont stop things like this from happening, as there are a number of illegal means of acquiring firearms on underground markets.

Yes there is always a black market for everything, but rarity drives price up and make it a lot harder to buy stuff... you can buy handgun or automatic weapon of the black market in Canada but they are insanely expensive...

[Bodakane]

1: magazine size does not reduce killing capacity of anyone even mildly versed in firearms. A magazine can be dropped and replaced in 1 second or less.

2: bump firing, in this instance, likely saved more lives, as it severely reduces the accuracy of the rifle being fired.

3: Wait periods dont stop things like this from happening, as there are a number of illegal means of acquiring firearms on underground markets.

1. then why do you care how big they are and laws regulating the size?

2. hahahahahahahahaha....wait that's not funny you actually believe that tripe.

3. Oh sure. The average person knows how and where to buy underground guns....riiiight.

[Deleted]

What? He created terror did he not?

Yeah I agree with you but most people seem to define terror to be linked to some said motives, are we ignorant?

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There's 88 guns per 100 people in the US and about 10 gun-related deaths per 100000. Compare that to for example the UK that has 6.2 guns per 100 and 0.25 gun related deaths per 100000.

But sure, having more guns prevents gun related deaths. hurr durr

88 guns per 100 people seriously? Does that count military stock?

[Theinquisition]

Yeah I agree with you but most people seem to define terror to be linked to some said motives, are we ignorant?

There very well be some motives that we are unaware of yet. As of now, he definitely fits the bill of a domestic terrorist, I really hope it's not left or right politically motivated or else we could be seeing some real insurrection.

[Deleted]

There very well be some motives that we are unaware of yet. As of now, he definitely fits the bill of a domestic terrorist, I really hope it's not left or right politically motivated or else we could be seeing some real insurrection.

What I mean is that IMO this is a act of terrorising society, is a motive really a necessity to define it as terrorism? It's all about the actions taken imo.

[Deleted]

It's so typical of the NRA sycophants and the right.

- We cannot have any laws regulating firearm ownership or purchasing.

- Ok, why?

- Because it won't stop bad guys from getting guns.

- Ok, how are bad guys getting guns?

- They steal them.

- Ok, let's set up a registry that way we can see where these guns are being stolen from.

- Nope, then the government will know who to take guns from.

- Why would they do that?

- Because the government can't be trusted. They want to take our guns and the only way to stop them from oppressing us is to be fully armed.

- Oh, so you think we shouldn't trust the government and they are out to hurt us?

- Yup.

- So you agree with Black Live Matter?

- Hell no, Blue Lives Matter.

- Dafuq?

Meanwhile your side yells, "Fuck the police! But trust them to take away your weapons AND we should be fully dependent upon them!"

[Theinquisition]

What I mean is that IMO this is a act of terrorising society, is a motive really a necessity to define it as terrorism? It's all about the actions taken imo.

Yeah, a terrorist uses violence or the threat of violence against civilians to enact social or political change. If theres no motive, technically it isn't terrorism.

[Bodakane]

Meanwhile your side yells, "Fuck the police! But trust them to take away your weapons AND we should be fully dependent upon them!"

Our side has never said that. But your side has said, verbatim, everything I listed.

[Theinquisition]

Meanwhile your side yells, "Fuck the police! But trust them to take away your weapons AND we should be fully dependent upon them!"

Or they call trump and every conservative right of Bernie sanders a fascist and a Nazi, but want to repeal the second amendment, the amendment which provides the people the means to fight a fascist government.

You can't have it both ways, either we are heading towards fascism and need the means to fight back, or we're not and people don't need guns, which one is it lefties?

[Daelak]

Meanwhile your side yells, "Fuck the police! But trust them to take away your weapons AND we should be fully dependent upon them!"

I guess police groups and the DOJ stating that there is a systematic problem with police brutality against minority populations are Obama liberal holdovers too? Or is some other wide sweeping conspiracy I don't know about that is fabricating data on said police brutality?

[Deleted]

Yeah, a terrorist uses violence or the threat of violence against civilians to enact social or political change. If theres no motive, technically it isn't terrorism.

There's allways a motive issent there? So it's allways terrorism to commit such act. That's my vieuw.

[Theinquisition]

There's allways a motive issent there? So it's allways terrorism to commit such act. That's my vieuw.

A lunatic is sometimes just a lunatic.

This was premeditated, mark my words, this goes deeper than it appears.

[Bodakane]

Or they call trump and every conservative right of Bernie sanders a fascist and a Nazi, but want to repeal the second amendment, the amendment which provides the people the means to fight a fascist government.

You can't have it both ways, either we are heading towards fascism and need the means to fight back, or we're not and people don't need guns, which one is it lefties?

Who is saying we need to repeal 2A? Jesus, hyperbole much?

[Deleted]

1: magazine size does not reduce killing capacity of anyone even mildly versed in firearms. A magazine can be dropped and replaced in 1 second or less.

2: bump firing, in this instance, likely saved more lives, as it severely reduces the accuracy of the rifle being fired.

3: Wait periods dont stop things like this from happening, as there are a number of illegal means of acquiring firearms on underground markets.

People that have never handled a firearm do not know how they work. Yet for some reason they come out and try to debate people who own and use their firearms on a regular basis. They tell us we're wrong about something they literally know nothing about. It's ridiculous.

Going full auto on that crowd likely saved some lives. The moment the crowd started running he would have been better off firing with bursts, or just going semi automatic and picking people off with accuracy. When you fire fully automatic you have much less control over your weapon, and therefore less control over where the bullets hit. You run out of bullets faster as well. There's a reason we're trained to fire with short bursts and not hold down the trigger until the chain runs out.

[Daelak]

Or they call trump and every conservative right of Bernie sanders a fascist and a Nazi, but want to repeal the second amendment, the amendment which provides the people the means to fight a fascist government.

You can't have it both ways, either we are heading towards fascism and need the means to fight back, or we're not and people don't need guns, which one is it lefties?

A president that pardons a person that hasn't been sentenced yet is a great predictor of future fascistic actions by a government. A Presidential Administration demanding loyalty at all levels of government, even separate branches of government, is a great predictor of fascistic actions by a government. A president that mocks, degrades, dismisses, and divides the citizenry based off of stereotypes and appeals to emotion and national security and purity with Christian overtones is a great predictor of fascistic actions by a government.

[Theinquisition]

Who is saying we need to repeal 2A? Jesus, hyperbole much?

A significant portion of the left wants to repeal the 2nd amendment, hell it's been a central theme of this thread.