Battle for Azeroth Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Soulwind]

To be fair, they stayed very true to the model's original uglyness, blizz said they wanted to stay true to the soul of the vanilla models

So did the guys who remade dwarves, tauren and orcs, and those look a lot better.

[Chickat]

Yeah. Hope for the best, expect the worst.



Also, since revamp would require less work on terrain (as the continents are already there, just need to be changed), they could have a side team working on it , then, when Legion was done, put the full team on it.

Heck, all this talk is leaving me very hopeful. Must. Tone. Down. Hype!

Leave the terrain mostly as is, but i would want higher res textures and assets like new tree models etc. Kinda pointless to revamp it again if it still looks like a late ps2 game.

[nonameguy7]

World of Warcraft - Knights of the Black Empire

New Level Cap: 100;

New Races: Ethereal (Alliance) Flamewaker (Horde);

New Zones: Kul'Tiras, Dragon Isles, Shadowlands, Ny'alotha, Revamped EK/Kalimdor/Northrend.

New Features: New glyph system integrated into your specialization - each spec's exclusive abilities have its own sets of glyphs that you activate with titan points. Abilities with different sets of glyphs have different effects. Glyphs unlocks with specific actions. Titan points are getting from levels and have restricted amount (Something like old talent points. Talent points are still there). Three new specializations. New type of equipment and its slot in character menu. One new battleground (New type); Updated Worgen/Goblin models;

Plot: Azeroth's version of Judgement Day. Much much worse version of Cataclysm. Alliance is torn by internal conflicts and threatening to fall apart while Horde gathering new forces. With wounded titan soul of Azeroth Old Gods and it's servants threatening to re establish new Black Empire. To stop them we go into hell itself - shadowlands.

Characters: Anduin is sick. Sylvanas is desperate. Jaina finding new hope and goal while Genn finding his peace. Velen retires and Lor'Thremar wanting to rule. Orcs choosing new leader and trolls gathering tribes meeting. Dwarves council falling apart and new player enters the game.

[Chickat]

We have one?


Also I do think there's a surprising amount of hype being generated around Nightborne becoming playable. If you want something to hang your hat on for a 1-60 revamp (again) there you go.

Front page.

[Marlamin]

World of Warcraft - Knights of the Black Empire

New Level Cap: 100;

Dammit, I'll have to level down.

[zlygork]

Dammit, I'll have to level down.

It's gonna be an epic leveling experience reminiscent of TFT scourge campaign for the nostalgia factor, every zone you lose a level or two as your artifact leaks power out, ultimately forcing you to switch it for a green weapon at lvl 100

[Chickat]

When Titan was retooled into Overwatch I know the WoW team absorbed basically the entire Titan team. Don't remember if it was doubled or tripled but I know it was a lot of people with an MMO background. Also remember it was smack dab in the middle of WoD development.

They were working on Legion before WoD alpha. I remember a dev saying they couldn't decide which one to release first at one point early on. Im expecting some kind of bump in quality or quantity with 8.0.

[Marlamin]

It's gonna be an epic leveling experience reminiscent of TFT scourge campaign for the nostalgia factor, every zone you lose a level or two as your artifact leaks power out, ultimately forcing you to switch it for a green weapon at lvl 100

I wouldn't put it past Blizzard to do exactly that.

[Dragon ANX]

Dammit, I'll have to level down.

Level squish ;D sauhsuaushaus /joke

[Jaylock]

World of Warcraft - Knights of the Black Empire

New Level Cap: 100;

New Races: Ethereal (Alliance) Flamewaker (Horde);

New Zones: Kul'Tiras, Dragon Isles, Shadowlands, Ny'alotha, Revamped EK/Kalimdor/Northrend.

New Features: New glyph system integrated into your specialization - each spec's exclusive abilities have its own sets of glyphs that you activate with titan points. Abilities with different sets of glyphs have different effects. Glyphs unlocks with specific actions. Titan points are getting from levels and have restricted amount (Something like old talent points. Talent points are still there). Three new specializations. New type of equipment and its slot in character menu. One new battleground (New type); Updated Worgen/Goblin models;

Plot: Azeroth's version of Judgement Day. Much much worse version of Cataclysm. Alliance is torn by internal conflicts and threatening to fall apart while Horde gathering new forces. With wounded titan soul of Azeroth Old Gods and it's servants threatening to re establish new Black Empire. To stop them we go into hell itself - shadowlands.

Characters: Anduin is sick. Sylvanas is desperate. Jaina finding new hope and goal while Genn finding his peace. Velen retires and Lor'Thremar wanting to rule. Orcs choosing new leader and trolls gathering tribes meeting. Dwarves council falling apart and new player enters the game.

Lol, new level cap 100

[Jorah]

Dammit, I'll have to level down.

Did you player Peter M. version of diablo where we start at max level and killing mobs reduce our level?

[Chickat]

World of Warcraft - Knights of the Black Empire

New Level Cap: 100;

New Races: Ethereal (Alliance) Flamewaker (Horde);

New Zones: Kul'Tiras, Dragon Isles, Shadowlands, Ny'alotha, Revamped EK/Kalimdor/Northrend.

New Features: New glyph system integrated into your specialization - each spec's exclusive abilities have its own sets of glyphs that you activate with titan points. Abilities with different sets of glyphs have different effects. Glyphs unlocks with specific actions. Titan points are getting from levels and have restricted amount (Something like old talent points. Talent points are still there). Three new specializations. New type of equipment and its slot in character menu. One new battleground (New type); Updated Worgen/Goblin models;

Plot: Azeroth's version of Judgement Day. Much much worse version of Cataclysm. Alliance is torn by internal conflicts and threatening to fall apart while Horde gathering new forces. With wounded titan soul of Azeroth Old Gods and it's servants threatening to re establish new Black Empire. To stop them we go into hell itself - shadowlands.

Characters: Anduin is sick. Sylvanas is desperate. Jaina finding new hope and goal while Genn finding his peace. Velen retires and Lor'Thremar wanting to rule. Orcs choosing new leader and trolls gathering tribes meeting. Dwarves council falling apart and new player enters the game.

Of course Velen retires. Useless old man.

[Archmage Alodi]

Knights? Couldn't come up with something better?

[Simca]

VERY unlikely we'll see playable Nightborne for technical reasons. They were introduced this expansion as creature models, not proper characters, and they didn't implement the Demon Hunter animations for them (which is why DH can have some hilarious foot-sliding for them).

Given the substantial amount of work now required to upgrade them to playable status and the fact that they design expansions multiple years out, it seems quite unlikely that they would have made these design choices for the Nightborne in Legion knowing about the post-Legion expansion.

[Chickat]

Lol, new level cap 100

Thing is. We laugh at that, but something weird like that could happen. We could look back in a month and feel stupid for laughing.

[Jorah]

Thing is. We laugh at that, but something weird like that could happen. We could look back in a month and feel stupid for laughing.

Like Legion leak in common thread ROFL.

[zlygork]

VERY unlikely we'll see playable Nightborne for technical reasons. They were introduced this expansion as creature models, not proper characters, and they didn't implement the Demon Hunter animations for them (which is why DH can have some hilarious foot-sliding for them).

Given the substantial amount of work now required to upgrade them to playable status and the fact that they design expansions multiple years out, it seems quite unlikely that they would have made these design choices for the Nightborne in Legion knowing about the post-Legion expansion.

So far, there is no precedent for blizzard reusing old models for races when they are made playable; blood elves, goblins and worgen (all playable races that already existed in game, goblin even had a dancing animation and wore armor) all got entirely new models for their expansions. Even if they are just "sub" races, I highly doubt blizz would reuse old models for any sub-race they implement, it would feel like a downgrade in expansion quality if you get what I mean.

[Marlamin]

Thing is. We laugh at that, but something weird like that could happen. We could look back in a month and feel stupid for laughing.

Definitely wouldn't be the first time.

[TriHard]

World of Warcraft - Knights of the Black Empire

cmonBruh

At least put some effort into it, don't copy the SWTOR expansion and just replace one word.

[Simca]

So far, there is no precedent for blizzard reusing old models for races when they are made playable; blood elves, goblins and worgen (all playable races that already existed in game, goblin even had a dancing animation and wore armor) all got entirely new models for their expansions. Even if they are just "sub" races, I highly doubt blizz would reuse old models for any sub-race they implement, it would feel like a downgrade in expansion quality if you get what I mean.

None of those races were implemented as normal creatures in the expansion directly before they became a playable race. If Nightborne were going to be a race in 9.0 or 10.0, I'd agree with you.

(And no, Blood Elves don't count even though they were added in TBC - while the old elf model was implemented in Vanilla WoW, Vanilla WoW's development cycle was WAY longer than any expansion.)